February 6, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, Beau Vine said: I'm in a bitchy mood today. WTF is this about? surly baseball threads is more knowledge than any human can consume, and it’s free
February 6, 20232 yr A group in Las Vegas are in talks with the A's for a 35,000 seat domed stadium with a billion dollar price tag. Edited February 6, 20232 yr by kevwun
February 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, kevwun said: A group in Las Vegas are in talks with the A's for a 35,000 seat domed stadium with a billion dollar price tag. hopefully they build it on the strip it’ll be the toughest ticket in mlb
February 7, 20232 yr Quote If the Oakland Athletics move to Las Vegas, the site for a baseball stadium has been narrowed to one location — where the Tropicana now stands. A longtime fixture at the southeastern end of Las Vegas Strip, the Tropicana is on a 35-acre site that would be used for the proposed $1 billion domed Major League Baseball stadium. The Tropicana’s new owner, Bally’s Corp. of Rhode Island, has indicated it wants to rebrand or demolish the Rat Pack-era resort near Harry Reid International Airport https://www.gambling.com/us/news/las-vegas-mlb-stadium-apparently-down-to-one-possible-site-3818500
February 7, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, kevwun said: A group in Las Vegas are in talks with the A's for a 35,000 seat domed stadium with a billion dollar price tag. Lol. Never gonna happen.
February 7, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Helobious said: Lol. Never gonna happen. Well thats pretty much a 100% guarantee the A's will be playing in Vegas.
February 7, 20232 yr I just don’t see them leaving Oakland ever. I think the coliseum gets significant upgrades and they end up staying beyond 2024.
February 7, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, Helobious said: I just don’t see them leaving Oakland ever. I think the coliseum gets significant upgrades and they end up staying beyond 2024. I wish they’d stay in Oakland, but I can’t see anyone wanting to pay for renovation of that decrepit stadium, and the taxpayers there have made it clear they aren’t paying for a new stadium either. Probably just a matter of time at this point.
February 7, 20232 yr I'm really having trouble deciding whether to believe Helobious or Tim Kawakami?
February 7, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, Beau Vine said: I'm really having trouble deciding whether to believe Helobious or Tim Kawakami? Well MLB isn’t going to charge a transfer fee to Vegas, that part is true. Who knows if they can build a stadium there
February 7, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said: I wish they’d stay in Oakland, but I can’t see anyone wanting to pay for renovation of that decrepit stadium, and the taxpayers there have made it clear they aren’t paying for a new stadium either. Probably just a matter of time at this point. Will it be like the raiders, the place is full of the opposing team fans or Will it be like the knights, the place is full knights fans
February 7, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said: I wish they’d stay in Oakland, but I can’t see anyone wanting to pay for renovation of that decrepit stadium, and the taxpayers there have made it clear they aren’t paying for a new stadium either. Probably just a matter of time at this point. Federal Infrastructure grant money has already been denied once for the new stadium area IMO, best hope is Bay Area billionaires buy the team with the intent of keeping them in the Oakland area
February 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said: Well MLB isn’t going to charge a transfer fee to Vegas, that part is true. Who knows if they can build a stadium there this is huge
February 7, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Scraps said: #TeamVegas they instantly become the hottest ticket in baseball. Hopefully they don’t fuck the stadium design with field level suites and dumb shit like that
February 7, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said: they instantly become the hottest ticket in baseball. Hopefully they don’t fuck the stadium design with field level suites and dumb shit like that Field level suites adjoining the on-field bullpens. It's the new nostalgia...
February 7, 20232 yr It really ignites the OCD in me that they didn't make the bases 17" wide to match the plate.
February 7, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Beau Vine said: It really ignites the OCD in me that they didn't make the bases 17" wide to match the plate.
February 8, 20232 yr So does that mean a runner has a slightly better chance of stealing a base now? 2.25 inches less length to reach the next base doesn't sound like a lot, but... something something dick joke. I would guess it will be tougher to pick off guys too, or maybe it allows for a slightly larger lead off. It would be interesting if stolen bases become more of a thing, since it requires a lot of athleticism and speed to pull off. Games would certainly be more interesting if smart stealing was a significant factor in run production.
February 8, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said: they instantly become the hottest ticket in baseball. Hopefully they don’t fuck the stadium design with field level suites and dumb shit like that What about champagne rooms?
February 8, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said: So does that mean a runner has a slightly better chance of stealing a base now? 2.25 inches less length to reach the next base doesn't sound like a lot, but... something something dick joke. I would guess it will be tougher to pick off guys too, or maybe it allows for a slightly larger lead off. It would be interesting if stolen bases become more of a thing, since it requires a lot of athleticism and speed to pull off. Games would certainly be more interesting if smart stealing was a significant factor in run production. And there’s minimal data on it yet so the quant’s heads are exploding. One year of MiLB data isn’t enough for the true nerds.
February 8, 20232 yr 43 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said: So does that mean a runner has a slightly better chance of stealing a base now? 2.25 inches less length to reach the next base doesn't sound like a lot, but... something something dick joke. I would guess it will be tougher to pick off guys too, or maybe it allows for a slightly larger lead off. It would be interesting if stolen bases become more of a thing, since it requires a lot of athleticism and speed to pull off. Games would certainly be more interesting if smart stealing was a significant factor in run production. Pitchers are also limited to 2 disengagements (pick off attempt or step off) per plate appearance. If a 3rd attempt is made and not successful, the runner automatically advances.
February 8, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Beau Vine said: It really ignites the OCD in me that they didn't make the bases 17" wide to match the plate. Don’t worry because the umpires think the plate is 22”
February 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said: And there’s minimal data on it yet so the quant’s heads are exploding. One year of MiLB data isn’t enough for the true nerds.
February 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, topochico said: Pitchers are also limited to 2 disengagements (pick off attempt or step off) per plate appearance. If a 3rd attempt is made and not successful, the runner automatically advances. That’s dope. So sick of seeing half-hearted lobs to first to “let the runner know you’re thinking about him”
February 8, 20232 yr More details on the rule changes: PITCH TIMER In an effort to create a quicker pace of play, there will be a 30-second timer between batters. Between pitches, there will be a 15-second timer with the bases empty and a 20-second timer with runners on base. At last check, the pitch timer had reduced the average time of game in MiLB by about 26 minutes. This rule, which includes limits on throws to first base, has also increased stolen-base attempts. With this rule in place in the Minors this season, steal attempts per game have increased from 2.23 in 2019, at a 68% success rate, to 2.83 in 2022, at a 77% success rate. The pitcher must begin his motion to deliver the pitch before the expiration of the pitch timer. Pitchers who violate the timer are charged with an automatic ball. Batters who violate the timer are charged with an automatic strike. Batters must be in the box and alert to the pitcher by the 8-second mark or else be charged with an automatic strike. With runners on base, the timer resets if the pitcher attempts a pickoff or steps off the rubber. Pitchers are limited to two disengagements (pickoff attempts or step-offs) per plate appearance. However, this limit is reset if a runner or runners advance during the plate appearance. If a third pickoff attempt is made, the runner automatically advances one base if the pickoff attempt is not successful. Mound visits, injury timeouts and offensive team timeouts do not count as a disengagement. If a team has used up all five of its allotted mound visits prior to the ninth inning, that team will receive an additional mound visit in the ninth inning. This effectively serves as an additional disengagement. Umpires may provide extra time if warranted by special circumstances. (So if, as an example, a catcher were to be thrown out on the bases to end the previous half-inning and needed additional time to put on his catching gear, the umpire could allow it.) Note that the rule that will be used in MLB is slightly altered from the rule that was used in MiLB this year. In MiLB in 2022, it was a 14-second timer with the bases empty and 18 seconds (Double-A and lower) or 19 seconds (Triple-A) with runners on, with batters required to be in the box by the 9-second mark and a strict limit of two disengagements per plate appearance (that did not reset if the runner advanced). In its most recent week of play, the Minors have seen an average of .45 violations per game. DEFENSIVE SHIFT LIMITS The defensive team must have a minimum of four players on the infield, with at least two infielders completely on either side of second base. These restrictions are intended to increase the batting average on balls in play, to allow infielders to better showcase their athleticism and to restore more traditional outcomes on batted balls. As of this writing, the league-wide batting average on balls in play of .291 in 2022 is six points lower than in 2012 and 10 points lower than in 2006. The four infielders must be within the outer boundary of the infield when the pitcher is on the rubber. Infielders may not switch sides. In other words, a team cannot reposition its best defender on the side of the infield the batter is more likely to hit the ball. If the infielders are not aligned properly at the time of the pitch, the offense can choose an automatic ball or the result of the play. This rule does not preclude a team from positioning an outfielder in the infield or in the shallow outfield grass in certain situations. But it does prohibit four-outfielder alignments. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-2023-rule-changes-pitch-timer-larger-bases-shifts#:~:text=Shift restrictions in 2023&text=The bases%2C which traditionally have,operate and to avoid collisions. Edited February 8, 20232 yr by Dutchrudder
February 8, 20232 yr Steve Cohen is alpha as fuck. Wish more owners were like him. https://sports.yahoo.com/mets-steve-cohen-fires-back-at-mlb-team-owners-who-are-mad-at-his-spending-they-need-to-look-more-at-themselves-205830879.html
February 8, 20232 yr Hopefully it blows up in his face. Not how you build a roster, imo that tax money would be better spent in their scouting and farm system
February 8, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said: Hopefully it blows up in his face. Not how you build a roster, imo that tax money would be better spent in their scouting and farm system Yeah it’s terrible when teams actually try and put a good product on the field by forming a competitive team
February 8, 20232 yr 54 minutes ago, Helobious said: Yeah it’s terrible when teams actually try and put a good product on the field by forming a competitive team So you're a Mets fan now?
February 8, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, David Dennison said: So you're a Mets fan now? No but I respect that he’s actually trying to win unlike 40% of the other MLB teams
February 8, 20232 yr Id prefer a hard salary window for all teams, with a discounted slot for resigning your own players. Every team has to spend a minimum, yearly
February 8, 20232 yr On 2/7/2023 at 12:21 AM, tx 3 putt said: On 2/7/2023 at 9:11 AM, Hank Chinaski said: I wish they’d stay in Oakland, but I can’t see anyone wanting to pay for renovation of that decrepit stadium, and the taxpayers there have made it clear they aren’t paying for a new stadium either. Probably just a matter of time at this point. Currently, the top 5 CSA's in the US all have 2 baseball teams: Rank Combined statistical area 2020 Census 2010 Census Growth (%) 1 New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA 23,582,649 22,255,491 6.0 2 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA 18,644,680 17,877,006 4.3 3 Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 9,986,960 9,686,021 3.1 4 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA 9,973,383 9,050,192 10.2 5 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 9,714,023 8,923,942 8.9 So technically, if Oakland moves then it'd be just the top 4. And now that NL is the same as the Al, having two teams from different leagues in a high population area has lost some luster. but things do get a little wishy washy in that the A's have a following in Sacramento (so do the Giants to be fair) and if you combine the CSA population to the Bay Area's CSA population you'd have close to 12.4 million ppl and the 3rd largest contiguous area of population of sorts. So why would an area with clsoe to the rd largest population only have 1 team when DC and Chicago have 2? Well, DC is growing and Chicago has history and a loyal fans. So there's that. 23 Sacramento-Roseville, CA 2,680,831 2,414,783 11.0 If you were to design a system now, I would have to imagine MLB would only put two teams in LA and NYC. Everyone else would get 1. Oh well.
February 9, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, kevwun said: He'll find his payroll limit eventually. Even the Dodgers managed to do so. Possibly, but its a long ways off. He is worth about $15 billion, and made close to 2 billion last year through his hedge fund. He might lose interest, but he wont run out of money. He could lose more than 1/2 of his wealth and still be richer than dodgers management.
February 9, 20232 yr Well it's only 6 years to game the CBT. If he signed a 2 or 3 year deal like most guys his age, he'd get more than $18MM/yr.
February 10, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, gsoda3 said: The bay area and Sacramento as a CSA? That's a stretch. Agreed, until I was in Sacramento and heard about people making daily commutes to the Bay Area. I laughed out loud thinking it was a joke and then realized that, holy shit, that actually happens.
February 10, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, TonyTexas said: Seems like a dumb contract Trash cans have to stay banned for there even to be a hope it pans out.
February 10, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said: Agreed, until I was in Sacramento and heard about people making daily commutes to the Bay Area. I laughed out loud thinking it was a joke and then realized that, holy shit, that actually happens. the cost of renting got so high in the bay area. you'd hear about entry level workers living in cars or places like stockton and commuting to mountain view everyday but i always thought they were the extremely rare exceptions.
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