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  • henrygandorf
    henrygandorf

    love these articles and comments from the mlb media about marring a world series or how the baseball world will be critical of the astros for this move. get. the. fuck. out. with. that. nonsense.

  • MaybeACoordinator
    MaybeACoordinator

    Going through old pics because of the death of my grandmother / mom and came across this -- 1996, my son's first Astros game.

  • NSIAP, but 10000% of this.  

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10 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I see the Astros going with a 6-man rotation again this season, and it's likely going to be the next big change in MLB. I think more teams will start using 6-man rotations. It makes sense from the standpoint of keeping your main starters healthy for the playoffs. Instead of starting 35 games, keep them in the 28-30 range. Just the way it's going to be moving forward, where the top starters barely get over 200 innings, where most guys are 150-180.

Regular season Verlander is different than post-season Verlander.

I think the Astros will attempt a six man again thud season, but I think teams are well aware of its value. However you have to have a ton of quality SP depth to pull it off.  A starter getting blown up in the second inning is much more costly to a team using a six man rotation - your starters have to perform for it to work.  
 

The Astros have six legit MLB caliber starting pitchers without adding any from free agency. They also gave Bielak and guys like JP France around for spot starts and the like. France’s projected ERA for 2023 is around 4.0, which is incredible for an org’s maybe seventh best SP.  Then there are guys like Melendez, Arrighetti, Gordon, and Ullola coming behind them. 

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So the Yankees had juiced balls and we still no hitted them ? 

34 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

A starter getting blown up in the second inning is much more costly to a team using a six man rotation

Please explain your reasoning behind this statement 

5 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Please explain your reasoning behind this statement 

There’s one less bullpen guy to wear it in that situation. Most teams would have their 6th starter likely as their long reliever who comes in and saves the bullpen. 6 man rotation less likely to have that guy. 

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

There’s one less bullpen guy to wear it in that situation. Most teams would have their 6th starter likely as their long reliever who comes in and saves the bullpen. 6 man rotation less likely to have that guy. 

Nope. 26 man rosters 7 releivers. If you need 8 relievers you have a shitty pitching staff.

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

So the Yankees had juiced balls and we still no hitted them ? 

Well, when you’re not, you know, hitting them, does it really matter how juiced they are?

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Nope. 26 man rosters 7 releivers. If you need 8 relievers you have a shitty pitching staff.

I thought that was his point. *Most* teams do after just a few guys.

20 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

I thought that was his point. *Most* teams do after just a few guys.

That’s what I took the point to be. 

1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

So, MLB took a break from roasting the Astros to doctor some baseballs to help Aaron Judge get a record?

Hang on while I find my shocked face.

I still don't understand all that BS. It pisses me off too. Hope Yordan takes it down next season..wonder if they cut from football games to shoe Yordan's AB's. 

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3 minutes ago, texashorne said:

Bellinger to Cubs. 1 year 17 million

Over paid

6 minutes ago, texashorne said:

Bellinger to Cubs. 1 year 17 million

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That's like a million per home run.

Shrewd.  Like National League Rangers shrewd.

Well, you have to understand the Cubs' logic, which is that they won't be overpaying for World Series underperformance.

Hmm, a 35 year old catcher not known for his defense would be nonoptimal.  But $17 per is ok.

 

Just let Korey and Yainer battle it out in spring training and be done with it. No trading anything right now until there’s a proper GM in place.
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that's the kind of contract other teams make and we make fun of them 

there will always be players available at the trade deadline 

I would offer 3 for $60, maybe some bullshit 4th year mutual option type thing if he wants the number to look bigger.

I've been a fan of Vazquez for awhile. Definately one of the few Red Sox players I had no issue rooting for. Has that kind of quiet intensity of Pudge, Yadi, Maldy. 

7 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

 

$68M/4yrs is about the top of what Contreras should be worth.  I’d be fine with that deal depending on what the terms were for the 5th year option.  But it certainly would not look like a bargain.

Bellinger to Cubs. 1 year 17 million
Lol


4 years at $17/yr is right on the fangraphs crowdsource prediction (and is below what Clemens projected for AAV). If you have been wishing for Contreras, you should know that’s what it’s going to take.

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10. Willson Contreras, C, Age 31
Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Ben Clemens 4 $20.0 M $80.0 M
Median Crowdsource 4 $17.7 M $70.6 M
Avg Crowdsource 3.84 $17.4 M $66.8 M

 

Cool, I was worried he might leave and NYY might stop making the playoffs and laying down for us.

22 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

4 years at $17/yr is right on the fangraphs crowdsource prediction (and is below what Clemens projected for AAV). If you have been wishing for Contreras, you should know that’s what it’s going to take.

 

It’s like I’m taking crazy pills. People are objecting to Abreu deal which is going to end up the best

deal of the off-season, and now people are objecting to a deal that’s much less than Comtreras will actually sign?

 

4/68 is actually pretty shitty in light of what else is going on. I expect him to probably get 5/95 or 4/80 (at least on paper with an option or something on the 5th year) and the Astros should absolutely pay it. 


Yet online all I read are fans pining for an ancient Yuli to come back, re-sign a broken Brantley and turn the catcher job over to a couple of dipshits, one of whom doesn’t actually want to catch and the other of whom will be so bad offensively that it will make machete blush. All during our window of exactly 3 years when we will have 6 good to great starters locked down- 5 of whom we won’t be paying market rate to. 
 

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I hope judge can pitch once a week. Lot of innings in a season 

I wish I could put a bet down on how much the Yankees will still owe him when his body breaks down.  I bet it will be nine figures.

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They have a lot of money tied up in guys who aren’t team leaders 

Edited by tx 3 putt

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s like I’m taking crazy pills. People are objecting to Abreu deal which is going to end up the best

deal of the off-season, and now people are objecting to a deal that’s much less than Comtreras will actually sign?

 

4/68 is actually pretty shitty in light of what else is going on. I expect him to probably get 5/95 or 4/80 (at least on paper with an option or something on the 5th year) and the Astros should absolutely pay it. 


Yet online all I read are fans pining for an ancient Yuli to come back, re-sign a broken Brantley and turn the catcher job over to a couple of dipshits, one of whom doesn’t actually want to catch and the other of whom will be so bad offensively that it will make machete blush. All during our window of exactly 3 years when we will have 6 good to great starters locked down- 5 of whom we won’t be paying market rate to. 
 

Is the plan still to play him in the OF a bunch? I wouldn’t be super excited about giving $80mm to a 31 year-old catcher to play LF. If the plan is for him to catch 120 games and DH some, cool. If it is for him to play 50 games in LF, I’d rather they just sign an OF.

Don't ya just love it when your arch nemesis punches themselves in the dick? And we get to watch it happen for about 6 years once Judge is over the hill. 40m a year... Oof.

16 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Is the plan still to play him in the OF a bunch? I wouldn’t be super excited about giving $80mm to a 31 year-old catcher to play LF. If the plan is for him to catch 120 games and DH some, cool. If it is for him to play 50 games in LF, I’d rather they just sign an OF.

Nah. If I had to guess I would say 60 catching and 70 or 80 at DH with an occasional 1B or LF mixed in. Catching too much degraded his offense. This team is going to make the playoffs easy. It can waste its time with Maldy catching 100 games as long as come playoff time we go with the big bat. 

8 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

 

I dont understand this.  What is the big deal?  Making fun of the ball when throwing a no-no?

4 minutes ago, huge said:

I dont understand this.  What is the big deal?  Making fun of the ball when throwing a no-no?

juiced balls and we still threw a no-hitter. 

4 minutes ago, huge said:

I dont understand this.  What is the big deal?  Making fun of the ball when throwing a no-no?

It took me a while too. The article a few posts above detailed how the MLB provided more hitter friendly balls to the Yankees and in the post season...And this is a picture with one of those balls. 

28 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Nah. If I had to guess I would say 60 catching and 70 or 80 at DH with an occasional 1B or LF mixed in. Catching too much degraded his offense. This team is going to make the playoffs easy. It can waste its time with Maldy catching 100 games as long as come playoff time we go with the big bat. 

All of this. I think if Maldy can catch 80-90 games next year that would be great. He is only making 4.5

Edited by LebongJames

I love Vasquez but Contreras is worth the money if that's where we want to spend it.

and this is stupid:

Jansen doesn't suck but he hasn't been the same since we broke him in 2017. We have better bullpen arms for less money.

The Astros are breaking everyone's brains and it's glorious.

17 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

juiced balls and we still threw a no-hitter. 

did you read the entire article?

4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I love Vasquez but Contreras is worth the money if that's where we want to spend it.

and this is stupid:

Jansen doesn't suck but he hasn't been the same since we broke him in 2017. We have better bullpen arms for less money.

The Astros are breaking everyone's brains and it's glorious.

By “we have better bullpen arms” I think you are understating by a lot. We have like 5 better bullpen arms. At least. 

Move on to Nimmo in our pipe dreams. 

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9 minutes ago, huge said:

did you read the entire article?

prob not, what do it say?

Just now, henrygandorf said:

prob not, what do it say?

It's really long.  I got about half way through and lost interest.  I don't care anyway.  

We are going to have a really good team again next year and will be the betting favorite to win again.  Everything else is just noise.

7 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Move on to Nimmo in our pipe dreams. 

He's likely going to the Giants. They can get Nimmo and Haniger for less than Judge. It's amazing that the Yankees are spending $40M on a player that loses to the Astros when it matters the most.

 

6 minutes ago, huge said:

It's really long.  I got about half way through and lost interest.  I don't care anyway.  

We are going to have a really good team again next year and will be the betting favorite to win again.  Everything else is just noise.

middle finger emoji rep. 

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