November 18, 20223 yr I'm thinking about how make my life easier w.r.t. smoking a brisket on my stick burner this winter. And I stumbled across this video and it got me thinking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MUMmIedzwo Concern: I live in NY and I want to minimize my time outdoors tending the fire, adding wood, etc. Smoking a Brisket takes time....I have two little kids, so less time eye balling the smoker means more time w/ them. Has anyone used any of those long burning charcoals? Charblox or Bincho Grill as example? Thinking adding those to some Hickory (burns longer than Mesquite or Oak in my experience) and Meater probes to remotely monitor heat/temp
November 18, 20223 yr @next2nausThere’s been a good bit of talk about these on the BGE thread. You may want to peruse that as well.
November 18, 20223 yr You could change your technique and do a hot and fast smoke at 300+ degrees. Cut the time in the smoker in half. What matters is the following long rest of 12+ hours in an oven at 150 degrees.
November 19, 20223 yr You could change your technique and do a hot and fast smoke at 300+ degrees. Cut the time in the smoker in half. What matters is the following long rest of 12+ hours in an oven at 150 degrees. Thishttps://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/40-all-things-brisket/?do=findComment&comment=4537001
November 21, 20223 yr Author On 11/18/2022 at 7:59 PM, CooterBrown said: You could change your technique and do a hot and fast smoke at 300+ degrees. Cut the time in the smoker in half. What matters is the following long rest of 12+ hours in an oven at 150 degrees. interesting, I've contemplated 6 six hours on the smoker (heard that after 4 hours its there is no more "smoke" value, just low cooking") then oven to finish for 8 to 10 hours at 150
November 21, 20223 yr I know most will call it blasphemy, but based on a rec from a chef buddy of mine, 2 weekends ago I did a brisket flat in my sous vide for 36 hours at 155. Then it went in the fridge for 2 days, and I finished it for 4 hours in the smoke and served it. It was the best flat I have tasted outside of Franklin/Leroy&Lewis/Valentinas, and was dare I say on par. Texture was perfect, and did not suffer from the drying out of other stand alone flats I had smoked to entirety before. I’m actually going to do an entire brisket for Christmas this way, so I don’t have to sacrifice the time as well. I’ll try and remember to check back in here after I do it, but if it is even close to the quality of the flat I did, it will be amazing.
November 21, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, next2naus said: interesting, I've contemplated 6 six hours on the smoker (heard that after 4 hours its there is no more "smoke" value, just low cooking") then oven to finish for 8 to 10 hours at 150 Depending on how much time I have, I will throw a brisket on after dinner, and let it smoke until 1 or 2 a.m. Then wrap and stick it in the oven at 205, go to bed, and let it cook in there all night. Pull it out to rest a couple of hours before serving. Works well.
November 21, 20223 yr 53 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said: I know most will call it blasphemy, but based on a rec from a chef buddy of mine, 2 weekends ago I did a brisket flat in my sous vide for 36 hours at 155. Then it went in the fridge for 2 days, and I finished it for 4 hours in the smoke and served it. It was the best flat I have tasted outside of Franklin/Leroy&Lewis/Valentinas, and was dare I say on par. Texture was perfect, and did not suffer from the drying out of other stand alone flats I had smoked to entirety before. I’m actually going to do an entire brisket for Christmas this way, so I don’t have to sacrifice the time as well. I’ll try and remember to check back in here after I do it, but if it is even close to the quality of the flat I did, it will be amazing. BLASPHEMY!!!
November 21, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, conVINCEd said: Depending on how much time I have, I will throw a brisket on after dinner, and let it smoke until 1 or 2 a.m. Then wrap and stick it in the oven at 205, go to bed, and let it cook in there all night. Pull it out to rest a couple of hours before serving. Works well.
November 21, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, dcbc said: Nothing to do with winter, everything to do with getting some sleep and serving lunch. I’m too fucking old to sit up all night tending a fire.
November 21, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, conVINCEd said: Nothing to do with winter, everything to do with getting some sleep and serving lunch. I’m too fucking old to sit up all night tending a fire. And that, sir, is the the conversation I've had with myself every time I think about upgrading to a stick burner from the WSM. It's just too easy for me to get the thing going, get the meat on, get a good night's sleep, wake up, and it's time to wrap. And with the addition of the temp controller, I can keep it running low all night so I'm sure to get some good sleep.
November 21, 20223 yr Winter Brisket tends to be a bit lazier and more sedentary than Summer Brisket. Dig some time in front of the fire with my wife and some whiskey. If y'all were wondering.
November 22, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, dcbc said: And that, sir, is the the conversation I've had with myself every time I think about upgrading to a stick burner from the WSM. It's just too easy for me to get the thing going, get the meat on, get a good night's sleep, wake up, and it's time to wrap. And with the addition of the temp controller, I can keep it running low all night so I'm sure to get some good sleep. I started on a WSM. If the electronics were better back then I would’ve probably stuck with that, and maybe bought a second. I mainly upgraded for capacity. I haven’t been cooking much lately, but the after dinner, stick in oven, go to bed thing works for me. I get my outside smoker time with brown water, I sleep, and people get good food at lunch.
November 22, 20223 yr Nothing to do with winter, everything to do with getting some sleep and serving lunch. I’m too fucking old to sit up all night tending a fire.Make it even easier. Start at noon and pull it off around 10pm. Put it in a counter top toaster oven or turkey roaster at 150 degrees until noon the next day. Go watch Chud BBQ videos on the foil boat method. You won’t bother doing it any other way again. It’s so easy and reliable.
November 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, CooterBrown said: Make it even easier. Start at noon and pull it off around 10pm. Put it in a counter top toaster oven or turkey roaster at 150 degrees until noon the next day. Go watch Chud BBQ videos on the foil boat method. You won’t bother doing it any other way again. It’s so easy and reliable. You squeezing a 15 lb brisket into a toaster oven? I’ve got a Ninja and I ain’t getting a brisket in there.
November 22, 20223 yr You squeezing a 15 lb brisket into a toaster oven? I’ve got a Ninja and I ain’t getting a brisket in there.I use an electric turkey roaster. If your regular oven can go down to 150, use it.
November 22, 20223 yr Current only goes down to 200. I’ll need to pull up the manual on the soon to be oven to see how low it goes. I was not the primary decision maker on that appliance.
November 28, 20223 yr Pellet grills do a really good job of holding temps in northern winters, if you're willing to go that route. I use mine all winter and don't really see a dramatic difference in time or pellet usage between 100 degrees and 10 degrees outside temperature.
November 28, 20223 yr On 11/21/2022 at 9:47 PM, conVINCEd said: Current only goes down to 200. I’ll need to pull up the manual on the soon to be oven to see how low it goes. I was not the primary decision maker on that appliance. Most conventional ovens' lowest setting is 170... that's typically what it hits for the "warm" function. Edited November 28, 20223 yr by oSuJeff97
November 29, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said: Most conventional ovens' lowest setting is 170... that's typically what it hits for the "warm" function. Some of the newer ones will do 145 on a "warm" setting. Our old one would only go down to 170, which was anywhere between 170--210F on the probe we used to test it. Edited November 29, 20223 yr by dcbc
December 1, 20223 yr Author On 11/21/2022 at 4:38 PM, conVINCEd said: Depending on how much time I have, I will throw a brisket on after dinner, and let it smoke until 1 or 2 a.m. Then wrap and stick it in the oven at 205, go to bed, and let it cook in there all night. Pull it out to rest a couple of hours before serving. Works well. do you wrap and rest in a cooler?
December 4, 20223 yr On 11/21/2022 at 3:38 PM, conVINCEd said: Depending on how much time I have, I will throw a brisket on after dinner, and let it smoke until 1 or 2 a.m. Then wrap and stick it in the oven at 205, go to bed, and let it cook in there all night. Pull it out to rest a couple of hours before serving. Works well. Pulled this off over the last 24 hours trying the foil boat method for the first time. easily top 5 brisket I’ve ever done. on the WSM at 6:30pm (12.5 lber after trim) smoked for 6 hours until 12:30am, 155 degrees. Would have preferred to put on earlier and get more smoke time, but pulled then and put in the boat. In the oven at 230 degrees with a small sauce pan of water. Cooked this way until it was done around 8am. Took it out of the oven and in a cooler (still in the boat) letting it rest down to ~160 degrees which took about 2.5 hours, to 10:30am. Wasn’t going to eat until the evening, so back in the oven on warm/170 degree setting stayed there the rest of the day (taking a break for an hour back in the cooler while transporting to the parents house) until time to slice and serve ~6:30pm. incredibly tender and definitely the crispiest bark I’ve ever created on a brisket
December 4, 20223 yr On 12/1/2022 at 11:07 AM, next2naus said: do you wrap and rest in a cooler? I put in the other oven to rest if it’s not being used.
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