June 13, 20187 yr Im thinking of picking up on of these: Weber Genesis II E-410 4-Burner Propane Gas Gril https://www.pcrichard.com/catalog/catalog-product.jsp?prodId=62010001&utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=display&utm_content=970x250&utm_campaign=Retargeting_lowerfunnel2018&dclid=COaR-_bC0dsCFQkMNwodBRgByQ Anyone use one?
June 13, 20187 yr I'm pretty sure the shag/surl stipulated to the excellence of Weber gas grills a while back. I have both Gas and Charcoal models and while I prefer the charcoal, it's just a pain in the ass.
June 13, 20187 yr Not a fan of them getting rid of the cabinet base. That grease pan is going to look real nice hanging out in the open after a couple of uses. Not sure why they did that.
June 13, 20187 yr The Weber Genesis is a great gas grill. Gets super hot with even heat. Just keep an extra tank around. It goes through the propane very quickly.
June 13, 20187 yr Author 16 minutes ago, kevwun said: Not a fan of them getting rid of the cabinet base. That grease pan is going to look real nice hanging out in the open after a couple of uses. Not sure why they did that. you can get it with a cabinet, I'm 50/50 on the cabinet
June 13, 20187 yr Author 14 minutes ago, HouTex said: The Weber Genesis is a great gas grill. Gets super hot with even heat. Just keep an extra tank around. It goes through the propane very quickly. I have two, thx.
June 14, 20187 yr I used the E310, the 3 burner version and liked it a lot. Any reason you're going 4 burner?
June 14, 20187 yr I have the old version of the Weber Genesis with 3 burners and a searing station (which is just a smaller 4th burner wedged in between two for larger burners). It's probably 10 years old now and works great.
June 15, 20187 yr Author 20 hours ago, baboso said: I used the E310, the 3 burner version and liked it a lot. Any reason you're going 4 burner? larger cooking space, why?
June 15, 20187 yr I bought the Genesis II 440. I’ve got nothing but positive things to say about it at this point.
June 15, 20187 yr On June 13, 2018 at 4:03 PM, BearSchlong said: I'm pretty sure the shag/surl stipulated to the excellence of Weber gas grills a while back. I have both Gas and Charcoal models and while I prefer the charcoal, it's just a pain in the ass. Serious question. I've never understood the "pain in the ass" stance with charcoal. Is it the time it takes to get hot? The fact that you have to clean out ashes after every third or fourth use? I've tried to like gas grills. I really have. I just can't do it. Even the "nice" ones don't seem to cook at an easily regulated temperature. The extra 15 minutes to get a chimney starter going and the occasional scooping out of ashes is well worth the trade off, IMO. I've owned a grill of some sort since I was 19, and to this day, I've never owned a gas grill.
June 15, 20187 yr Even the "nice" ones don't seem to cook at an easily regulated temperature.You sound retarded.
June 15, 20187 yr 22 minutes ago, luke duke said: You sound retarded. I figured that would get someone fired up. Sorry for ruffling your feathers, Hank.
June 15, 20187 yr @luke duke serious question. I know you have a bad ass pit that you built. And I admire that. And, I think you've been successful at BBQ cook-offs and whatnot. If you're grilling chicken breasts or burgers on a random Tuesday night do you cook on a gas grill or charcoal? Maybe I just suck at gas grills. I'm not above admitting that's a distinct possibility.
June 15, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Spaulding Smails said: @luke duke serious question. I know you have a bad ass pit that you built. And I admire that. And, I think you've been successful at BBQ cook-offs and whatnot. If you're grilling chicken breasts or burgers on a random Tuesday night do you cook on a gas grill or charcoal? Maybe I just suck at gas grills. I'm not above admitting that's a distinct possibility. If you've never owned one, it's not surprising you have a negative opinion, I suppose...but gas grills are roughly as hard to regulate temperature in as an oven. I personally cook chicken breasts and (usually) burgers on gas. Steak, bone-in pork, and wings goes on the BGE. Some stuff that's slightly better on charcoal still gets the gas treatment if we're grilling late for whatever reason, the convenience of the gas grill being 700* in 4 minutes is hard to overcome.
June 15, 20187 yr I’m 90% gas at this point. I will say there is a distinct difference between a good (read:expensive) gas grill and a cheap one. Cheap ones don’t heat evenly, they don’t cook evenly, they are susceptible to flare ups and just shitty cooking overall. I’ve had 3-4 cheaper gas grills with some of those still being moderately expensive in the $400-$500 range. One session with the Weber Genesis II showed me that it was a complete waste of money to buy the cheaper ones.
June 15, 20187 yr Just about every cheap grill has it's grates too close to the burners. That makes it really hard to cook anything well.
June 15, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Spaulding Smails said: @luke duke serious question. I know you have a bad ass pit that you built. And I admire that. And, I think you've been successful at BBQ cook-offs and whatnot. If you're grilling chicken breasts or burgers on a random Tuesday night do you cook on a gas grill or charcoal? Maybe I just suck at gas grills. I'm not above admitting that's a distinct possibility. I wasn't giving you crap about your preference for charcoal over gas. I was giving you crap for the inability to regulate temperature on a gas grill. I grill (chicken, fajitas, etc.) over gas I cook burgers on my flattop I cook steaks in the oven and sear over charcoal I BBQ with wood
June 15, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, Spaulding Smails said: Even the "nice" ones don't seem to cook at an easily regulated temperature. Not to keep dog piling, but define “nice”. I’m guessing not Weber? My last 2 Webers could cook with as much precision as my wife’s Wolf range.
June 16, 20187 yr Bought a Weber this summer and love it. So much easier and better than the cheap ones I had before.
June 18, 20187 yr I'll eat some crow on this one. I've never cooked on a Weber Genesis. The "nice" ones I've cooked on have been in the $500 range, I would guess. Probably just a case of me not giving them a shot and not appreciating their capabilities. I guess it would be like occasionally driving a Toyota Camry and not understanding why someone would appreciate a Porsche 911. Bad assumption on my part. I have a Bull Bison 30-in charcoal grill that I use for steaks, fajitas, chicken and fish. Bull 24" griddle for burgers, cheesesteaks, eggs, etc. Then an old Tejas smoker for BBQ. I'm not a Beard Award winner by any means, but I'm also not "a retard" when it comes to cooking.
June 18, 20187 yr On 6/15/2018 at 1:02 PM, Spaulding Smails said: Serious question. I've never understood the "pain in the ass" stance with charcoal. Is it the time it takes to get hot? The fact that you have to clean out ashes after every third or fourth use? I've tried to like gas grills. I really have. I just can't do it. Even the "nice" ones don't seem to cook at an easily regulated temperature. The extra 15 minutes to get a chimney starter going and the occasional scooping out of ashes is well worth the trade off, IMO. I've owned a grill of some sort since I was 19, and to this day, I've never owned a gas grill. Gas grills are easier, have very even and stable heat, and have less cancer risk.
June 18, 20187 yr I've bought the Weber Genesis II E-310 about a year ago and I love it. Big upgrade in quality from my previous 3 burner gas grill.
June 18, 20187 yr On 6/13/2018 at 1:59 PM, next2naus said: Im thinking of picking up on of these: Weber Genesis II E-410 4-Burner Propane Gas Gril https://www.pcrichard.com/catalog/catalog-product.jsp?prodId=62010001&utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=display&utm_content=970x250&utm_campaign=Retargeting_lowerfunnel2018&dclid=COaR-_bC0dsCFQkMNwodBRgByQ Anyone use one? I have one and love it. The iGrill app is awesome too.
July 15, 20187 yr Author Went with the Weber 3 burner model, arrives today and I should be able to put gas through it for a burn in Monday and cook on it that night or Tuesday. New house, new grill, happy happy, joy joy
July 18, 20187 yr Set aside a couple of hours to put it together. It is not a quick process. Edited July 18, 20187 yr by kevwun
July 18, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, kevwun said: Set aside a couple of hours to put it together. It is not a quick process. This
July 18, 20187 yr Charcoal is easyyyyyy as fuck to start if you have a chimney starter. That's like a 10 minute job with 2 minutes of labor involved. In fact, if you're cooking for only 1 or 2, you dont even need to bother with the grill: throw crumpled paper under chimney, put charcoal on top, light paper, 10 minutes later place grill on chimnney and cook food. Handling charcoal, disposal, ashes getting everywhere, etc, that is a bit of a faff. Not major, but not insignificant. The other very legitimate reason for going electric: apartment dwellers. Easier to get away with electric grill than charcoal.
September 24, 20187 yr Someone on TOS had a place to get replacement grates, flavorizer bars, etc. for the Weber Genesis. Anyone remember the website?
September 24, 20187 yr 38 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said: Someone on TOS had a place to get replacement grates, flavorizer bars, etc. for the Weber Genesis. Anyone remember the website? Go to Amazon and order the off-brand stuff. It's just as good, and lasts just as long. Last time I replaced the burner tubes I was worried that knockoff parts might not be as good, but it seems that they are. Fit is perfect, and cost half as much. Edited September 24, 20187 yr by Bat Guano
September 24, 20187 yr I saw a poor quality Sam’s four in one grill that does gas, charcoal, smoking and searing all in one. If I could get a high quality version of that, it would be awesome.
September 24, 20187 yr 10 minutes ago, Dbeasy said: I saw a poor quality Sam’s four in one grill that does gas, charcoal, smoking and searing all in one. If I could get a high quality version of that, it would be awesome. The Groker!
September 25, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, Jerry Callo said: Someone on TOS had a place to get replacement grates, flavorizer bars, etc. for the Weber Genesis. Anyone remember the website? This is the guy https://www.ebay.com/str/rcplanebuyer/
October 20, 20187 yr Finally broke down and ordered new burner tubes and flavorizer bars for my 2008 Weber E-310. I've replaced the bars once before, but was still on original burners. Went with Weber for the tubes and aftermarket for the bars. Runs like a champ now. Got some heavy duty aftermarket grates a few years back and they're still going strong.
October 20, 20187 yr @Okie State did you get the aftermarket flavorizer bars from the ebay seller that I mentioned above?
October 20, 20187 yr Does Genesis make a model that has the grates running left to right versus front to back? Mine are f/b, but it seems like it would be easier to use just one burner without have to reach back to the back if that one burner was l/r in front of you. Thoughts?
October 20, 20187 yr [mention=577]Okie State[/mention] did you get the aftermarket flavorizer bars from the ebay seller that I mentioned above?I got mine from a seller on Amazon called RiversEdge Products. Same ones I bought several years back so I knew what I was getting. I can't remember where I got my grates, but they are badass. I think it was eBay.
October 20, 20187 yr 14 minutes ago, Steel Shank said: Does Genesis make a model that has the grates running left to right versus front to back? Mine are f/b, but it seems like it would be easier to use just one burner without have to reach back to the back if that one burner was l/r in front of you. Thoughts? I assume you mean burner, not grates. Older Genesis models have a l/r burner configuration. Like this one: https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/app/d/great-condition-stainless/6705782049.html
October 20, 20187 yr After owning the Weber Spirit and before that the Genesis I, went ahead and bought the E-310 Genesis II instead of the next model up, which was almost twice as much ($699 vs $1299). So far, seems to be great. Not sure the $1299 model would be any/much better.
October 20, 20187 yr Searched my order history and the grates were also from RiversEdge although I paid $50 at the time and now they're showing at $100. The bars have also increased from $30 to $45. Thanks Trump.
October 20, 20187 yr Yes, my bad. Meant burners. Is my thinking correct, or is there other benefits to f/b? This is mainly when doing food for one or two (not large quantities).
October 20, 20187 yr I got a 3 burner Weber Spirit II instead of a Genesis. I don’t remember all the specific points, but just about every review I read said that there’s just no longer much upside to a Genesis over the Spirit II for the money unless you need 4-6 burners. The Spirit was upgraded in 2017 and now has most of the same technology of the Genesis. Same cast iron grates, same burner system, the 3-burner Genesis has 89sq in more primary grilling area than the Spirit, that’s enough for maybe 3 extra burgers when you already have room for 20. My Spirit fits food for a family of five just fine. This article lays out all the differences pretty well. https://www.bbqdryrubs.com/weber-spirit-vs-genesis/
October 20, 20187 yr Mine is a Spirit and has performed very well. I think I paid $350 for it ten years ago. I read somewhere that the Spirit line was made with cheaper steel and wouldn't last as long as the higher end models. Once this one dies I'm not sure what model I'll get, but it will definitely be another Weber.
October 20, 20187 yr Actually after reading that article, the Spirit II E-310 seems like the obvious choice.
October 20, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Steel Shank said: Yes, my bad. Meant burners. Is my thinking correct, or is there other benefits to f/b? This is mainly when doing food for one or two (not large quantities). I think that it is more of a matter of preference. I prefer the f/b burner configuration. I find it easier to setup different temperature zones. For some reason I also prefer to line my food up front to back and then left to right, if that makes sense.
October 20, 20187 yr 35 minutes ago, luke duke said: For some reason I also prefer to line my food up front to back and then left to right, if that makes sense. I’m pretty sure this in an innate habit hardwired in us since cavemen were grilling raptor thighs. It’s like the toilet paper roll over vs under thing... it’s just the right thing to do. Any other way is communist.
October 20, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, luke duke said: I think that it is more of a matter of preference. I prefer the f/b burner configuration. I find it easier to setup different temperature zones. For some reason I also prefer to line my food up front to back and then left to right, if that makes sense. Maybe I should have one gas grill that is l/r and one that is f/b.....just to be sure. Along with the other cooking units, of course.
October 21, 20187 yr My e 310 has cast iron grates that are starting to rust. Is stainless the preferred choice? Tbh, these didn't last long so I'm leaning that way. Anyone have a good retailer other than the one listed above?
October 24, 20187 yr Mine came with the stainless grates and I was not a fan of them because they didn't do a good job of putting good grill marks on the meat. I ended up replacing them with cast iron grates.
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