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#6901
8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Narrator: because enough were willing to sign the discharge petition that he had to move it forward (especially after what had transpired over the last several weeks in Ukraine and the attack on Israel by Iran). 

Iran's attack on Israel was likely the last straw. 

Yep, he’s counted votes and been told by the Dems to do it or get his fucking shine box.

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#6902
1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep, he’s counted votes and been told by the Dems to do it or get his fucking shine box.

actually my read was it was enough Republicans were ready to sign it to bring it up to a vote - so they told him to do it or they'll do it for him. keep in mind there were many Democrats who had yet to sign the discharge petition so there had to be a LOT of Republicans telling him to move this forward. 

 

#6903
For everyone asking who finally got through to Mike Johnson: Mitch McConnell. That whole “place in history” argument Johnson gave earlier is 100% Mitch. https://t.co/jW8iBE0c8o

 

#6904

If it was actually Mitch, is Mitch trying to see where everybody really stands by having Johnson make them vote on it?  If you get a small number that votes against it, it helps diminish the power of the MTG/Gaetz wing.

#6905

tina turner auntie entity GIF
 

Speaker Johnson is trying to change the motion to vacate rule right now by slipping a new vacate rule into the border rule being debated right now on the Rules Committee. Changing it from 1 member to vacate to we have no idea because he’s again hiding it from the conference.

 

#6906

I don't think Johnson is pushing the foreign aid bill(s) because he's willing to sacrifice himself. If that were the case he would have done it by now. 

Something's changed that he no longer fears losing his position. 

#6907
17 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I don't think Johnson is pushing the foreign aid bill(s) because he's willing to sacrifice himself. If that were the case he would have done it by now. 

Something's changed that he no longer fears losing his position. 

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Fox News went after Marjorie yesterday.

#6908
9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Fox News went after Marjorie yesterday.

but the thing is that Trump doesn't want anything passed. this is a clear win for Biden getting this thing through (he's already said he'll sign this or the Senate version). 

#6909
31 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I don't think Johnson is pushing the foreign aid bill(s) because he's willing to sacrifice himself. If that were the case he would have done it by now. 

Something's changed that he no longer fears losing his position. 

The thing that's changed is that now he's HAD the position. Why the fuck would he, or anyone, want it?

#6910
1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

The thing that's changed is that now he's HAD the position. Why the fuck would he, or anyone, want it?

because it's still one of the most powerful positions in the United States and third in line for the presidency? 

also note that the GOP may be going to change the rules for removal (see Marge's whining). if they do that then he's more secure and more empowered. 

#6912

Yeah, Boebert flipped her position on my dick during Beetlejuice.  Dammit, I had something for this.  

I think Johnson just finally got some concessions on some other shit, because even if his Orange God wins and is magically converted to supporting Ukraine---that's 9 months from now and his defense contractor donor base for h and his cohort want this done soon.  and not just because money, because Ukraine has hit a quagmire.  They were doing brilliantly for 20 months but their momentum/morale is slowing down quickly.  

#6913
43 minutes ago, The Dog said:

but the thing is that Trump doesn't want anything passed. this is a clear win for Biden getting this thing through (he's already said he'll sign this or the Senate version). 

Don Trump Jr is publicly supporting Marjorie on Twitter and bashing Johnson, and I question whether Junior would be doing that without daddy’s approval.  What if Johnson thinks that Trump and the House are going to lose bigly in November? Or he’s gotten wind that the Republicans are being harmed by their pro-Republicans stances?

Or that more Republicans will quit and give the House over to the Dems if he does nothing?

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#6914

The last one seems likeliest. Everyone in the current GOP is an asshole but some of them have some sanity left and those are the ones resigning and willing to resign. He may have had a big enough group threaten to resign if he didn't support Ukraine funding. 

#6915
12 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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So he flipped his opinion on Feb 28th, and we're just now hearing about it 6 weeks later, and after several rejected efforts to bring a Ukraine funding bill to the floor by Johnson. That would make the question more like...why did he block efforts to bring the bill to the floor before now? 

No, it can't be that the numbers for a discharge petition were reach, or that Iran attacked Israel. That would make too much sense. 

#6917
5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The last one seems likeliest. Everyone in the current GOP is an asshole but some of them have some sanity left and those are the ones resigning and willing to resign. He may have had a big enough group threaten to resign if he didn't support Ukraine funding. 

It seems like the only thing that would outweigh going against Trump’s wishes and Marjorie’s threats. Trump and Three-toes can threaten him, but he still has a shot at holding on to the Speaker’s seat in another vote.  A couple of (R) resignations and there’s no more Republican House Speaker until next January at the earliest.  

#6918
37 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, Boebert flipped her position on my dick during Beetlejuice.  Dammit, I had something for this.  

I think Johnson just finally got some concessions on some other shit, because even if his Orange God wins and is magically converted to supporting Ukraine---that's 9 months from now and his defense contractor donor base for h and his cohort want this done soon.  and not just because money, because Ukraine has hit a quagmire.  They were doing brilliantly for 20 months but their momentum/morale is slowing down quickly.  

Which means we would have pissed away a lot of money for naught.  

#6919
To be clear, he’s being threatened for even allowing a vote to come to the floor. For allowing the constitutional process to play out as intended by our Founders. That’s a wild thing to consider, especially when his enemies consider themselves “conservative.” They are not… https://t.co/UB9SBlAxrQ
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To be clear, he’s being threatened for even allowing a vote to come to the floor. For allowing the constitutional process to play out as intended by our Founders. That’s a wild thing to consider, especially when his enemies consider themselves “conservative.” They are not conserving the constitutional process our Founders created, that’s for sure. Conserving Putin’s gains on the battlefield, is more like it.

 

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#6920
8 minutes ago, The Dog said:
To be clear, he’s being threatened for even allowing a vote to come to the floor. For allowing the constitutional process to play out as intended by our Founders. That’s a wild thing to consider, especially when his enemies consider themselves “conservative.” They are not… https://t.co/UB9SBlAxrQ

 

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#6921
8 minutes ago, The Dog said:
To be clear, he’s being threatened for even allowing a vote to come to the floor. For allowing the constitutional process to play out as intended by our Founders. That’s a wild thing to consider, especially when his enemies consider themselves “conservative.” They are not… https://t.co/UB9SBlAxrQ

 

When Dan Crenshaw is the voice of reason and sanity…

#6922

Well Dan, you see MAGA only cares about the Constitution when it benefits solely them. See them trying to thwart the peaceful transfer of power on January 6. 

#6923

And Dan, you’ve been perfectly happy with any number of buttfuckings of the constitution and of the people. Bitching only when an ox you care about gets gored elicits zero sympathy. You happily helped create the monster, shut the fuck up while it consumes you, as it was ALWAYS going to do.

#6925
Marge Gone Wild: “I don’t care if the Speaker’s office becomes a revolving door … The days are over of the old Republican Party that wants to fund foreign wars and murder people while they stab the American people in their face!”

 

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#6926
3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:
Marge Gone Wild: “I don’t care if the Speaker’s office becomes a revolving door … The days are over of the old Republican Party that wants to fund foreign wars and murder people while they stab the American people in their face!”

 

If the Republican Party wants to try to restore some semblance of functionality, they need to oust this bitch a la Santos.  She's such a maroon.

#6927
1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

If the Republican Party wants to try to restore some semblance of functionality, they need to oust this bitch a la Santos.  She's such a maroon.

 

Good luck with that.  Unless she's committed fraud on some level, convicted or something...she's gonna be a lifer.

Just wait until a 2nd Trump administration, where she is elevated to Secretary of State or some shit like that.

 

#6928
6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:
Marge Gone Wild: “I don’t care if the Speaker’s office becomes a revolving door … The days are over of the old Republican Party that wants to fund foreign wars and murder people while they stab the American people in their face!”

 

She is completely intellectually bankrupt. There isn’t an iota of nuance or critical thought rolling around in her brain mush. Everything to her is binary.

#6929

Wait, who is stabbing the American people in their face? The Republican Party?

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#6930

I thought this was interesting ...  more about Ukraine funding, but he does talk about the dynamics in the house

 

#6931

 

Newsy: House Freedom Caucus members are signing up to take shifts to guard the House floor in order to prevent resolutions they’d consider unsavory from slipping through that could curb their power, per two R sources.This Floor Action Response Team (“FART”) aims to guard…

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#6932
2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Newsy: House Freedom Caucus members are signing up to take shifts to guard the House floor in order to prevent resolutions they’d consider unsavory from slipping through that could curb their power, per two R sources.This Floor Action Response Team (“FART”) aims to guard…

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Woooo boy:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/18/congress/hfc-on-alert-00153097

 

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During a Wednesday meeting with the speaker and the Republican Main Street group, members of that more establishment-minded bloc pitched Johnson on two changes, according to two other Republicans familiar with the matter. The first would remove Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), Chip Roy (R-Texas) and Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) from the Rules panel — ending an effective conservative stranglehold on the pivotal panel that preps bills for floor debate. 

“There were a number of members who told him that he should not allow malcontents to serve on the Rules Committee,” Main Street Chair Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.) told POLITICO afterwards.

 

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The second proposed change by Main Street members was to raise the threshold required for majority-party members to force a vote on ousting a speaker from its current number of one. Members of that group argued that McCarthy’s offers to the right — giveaways that ultimately helped end his term as speaker — are handcuffing Johnson.

Notably, Main Street members did not specifically propose that Johnson make those changes as part of debate on the foreign aid bill — but just urged to move as quickly as possible. Even so, the very idea infuriated conservatives, who vowed it would backfire if Johnson pursued them.

 

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“Talking about changing the threshold to the motion to vacate [the speakership] is likely to induce the motion to vacate,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.).

Gaetz, who is not a Freedom Caucus member, later joined several members of the group in a heated floor exchange with the speaker, during which the Floridian said “we did not get the answer that we wanted" about the changes Johnson might entertain.

Greene put it more bluntly: "Mike Johnson owes our entire conference a meeting. And if he wants to change the motion to vacate he needs to come before the Republican Conference that elected him and tell us of his intentions and tell us what this rule change … is going to be.”

 

#6934

Someone can explaint to me what having some clown on the floor "guard" against unsavory bills means. What are they, tackling people who want to call legislation to vote?

That being said, this would be funny and hilarious if the end result likely wasn't further delays on Ukraine funding, and other things.

When the Russians buy these guys, they really stay bought. 

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#6937
I can’t believe the Freedom Caucus went with Floor Action Response Team (FART) to block potential legislation when Congress Under Marjorie (CUM) was right under their noses. @HouseFreedomGOP

 

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#6938

SIAP. It's hard to keep up.

 

Tapper: If Trump wins and you keep the majority, will you bring the national abortion ban up for a vote?Johnson: I don't even know what you're talking aboutTapper: The Life at Conception Act bans abortion nationwide, you are a cosponsor of that

 

 

#6939
4 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

SIAP. It's hard to keep up.

 It’s fucking insane with everything that is happening with the House today.  Three Toes will be filing a motion to vacate tomorrow, no doubt about it, and sounds like Gaetz and a few others will back her.

#6941
1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

 It’s fucking insane with everything that is happening with the House today.  Three Toes will be filing a motion to vacate tomorrow, no doubt about it, and sounds like Gaetz and a few others will back her.

Massie, obviously, and if you want yet another prism with which to understand just how fucked up the GOP is, 8 years ago Massie was a fucking lunatic nutter in his party, and now he's a guy that has a completely undeserved veneer of respectability. It's like waking up one day in the future and seeing that Paul Gossar is a moderate. 

#6942
2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

When the Russians buy these guys, they really stay bought. 

A few decades ago, they’d at least have some dignity and try to hide that fact, but now they parade it around.

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Massie, obviously, and if you want yet another prism with which to understand just how fucked up the GOP is, 8 years ago Massie was a fucking lunatic nutter in his party, and now he's a guy that has a completely undeserved veneer of respectability. It's like waking up one day in the future and seeing that Paul Gossar is a moderate. 

Or making Dan Crenshaw look like a moderate

GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw slams Marjorie Taylor Greene and other Pro Putin Republicans: “They want Russia to win so badly that they want to oust the speaker over it. It’s a strange position to take.”

 

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#6943

Still keeping an eye on you, Dan 

#6945
9 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

Newsy: House Freedom Caucus members are signing up to take shifts to guard the House floor in order to prevent resolutions they’d consider unsavory from slipping through that could curb their power, per two R sources.This Floor Action Response Team (“FART”) aims to guard…

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With a name like Beavers you'd think she'd promote an Acronym that spells QUEEF

#6946

We taking bets on what time she files the motion to vacate?

The real damage happening to our conference and our country is that our elected Republican Speaker is supporting Biden and the Democrat’s agenda and not fighting for our Republican agenda. Stop making excuses and blaming others. https://t.co/FuXCJuJtTc

Massie wants attention

“Speaker Johnson and the uniparty are united behind their laundry list of bad ideas. From borrowing $95 billion from China to send it to other countries to killing a FISA warrant requirement – they’re ticking all the boxes to put America last,” @RandPaul https://t.co/bAbp9BppFG

 

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#6947

This morning, Three Toes threw out there that she offered to advise Johnson on what MAGA wants and expects out of him, and also she tossed in that the  military industrial complex is driving what Johnson is doing.  She’s definitely going to file the MTV, because she’s done talking to the manager.

Mike Johnson, the constitutional attorney, has turned into a mini tyrant.He’s using backroom deals with Democrats to change the rules of Congress to continue clinging onto his power while passing Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer’s wishlist.We need a new Speaker!!

 

#6949

How many retiring, purple district, or dgaf republicans would it take to say if you mtv we are voting for jefferies, and how would she react to such a threat?  Does it have any teeth with the single vote mtv rule in order?

#6950
JUST INHouse Rules Committee voted 9-3 to advance Speaker Johnson's foreign aid Bill to the House floor. The vote will take place on Saturday.All Democrats voted in favor. 3 Republicans voted NO.

 

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