Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Surly Horns

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

Pantera - Phil Anselmo

Iron Maiden - Bruce Dickinson (although I love their debut album)

AC/DC - Bon Scott 

Rush - Neil Peart 

Doobie Brothers - Michael McDonald

I am on the fence on Black Sabbath with Ozzy vs Dio. Black Sabbath was never really about the vocalist for me. Heaven And Hell is one of my favorite albums from them. Better than Paranoid. Depends on my mood. But probably Paranoid. 

Fleetwood Mac though the Peter green group was also good. 

Edited by Pato del Muerto

27 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Doobie Brothers - Michael McDonald

Coming To America Bar GIF

27 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Fleetwood Mac though the Peter green group was also good. 

I sadly have to agree with this as much as I love Peter Greens work.

 

Deep Purple got better as well even though Hush is still my favorite song of theirs.

Thin Lizzy also improved with Gorham.

The Beatles with Ringo. 
Nirvana with Grohl. 
Pink Floyd with Gilmour. 

Edited by 4th&Five

The Rolling Stones got much better when they replaced the dead Brian Jones with Mick Taylor. 

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

The Beatles with Ringo. 
 

uh yeah.  

The E Street band got better when Nils came in.

The New Yardbirds brought on some new guys that did alright. 

Judas Priest - the entire band. Not one member of the classic lineup was in the original band.

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Iron Maiden - Bruce Dickinson 

You shut your whore mouth!

Journey- Steve Perry

Eagles- Joe Walsh version although I do like the early stuff also but I am sure many on here will want the clip below so I will add it in to save ya'll some time.

 

 

there's no band in the history of ever that wouldn't improve after adding Joe fucking Walsh

Iron Maiden way better with Bruce Dickinson

Black Sabbath way better with Dio

I’m not gonna say AC/DC was way better with Brian Johnson but Back in Black was definitely better than anything before it.

Gang fight me if you need to. My mind ain’t changing.

4 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Iron Maiden way better with Bruce Dickinson

Black Sabbath way better with Dio

I’m not gonna say AC/DC was way better with Brian Johnson but Back in Black was definitely better than anything before it.

Gang fight me if you need to. My mind ain’t changing.

You are so correct about AC/DC

23 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

I’m not gonna say AC/DC was way better with Brian Johnson but Back in Black was definitely better than anything before it.

Highway to Hell is better than Back in Black. 

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Highway to Hell is better than Back in Black. 

no it's not

Oh, and Chad was a huge upgrade for the Chilis.

 

Pink Floyd after Syd went catatonic and they added Gilmour.

Dream Theater with James LaBrie, though a lot of people hate LaBrie. The original singer on the first album was not really working.

Rush after canning John Rutsey and got some other guy on drums...duh.

Cheap Trick after the original singer quit and they found Robin Zander.

Trapeze, one of the most underrated bands in history, after two guys left after the first album and they went with a three piece of Glenn Fucking Hughes, Mel Galley and Dave Holland. They were still damn good after Hughes left for Deep Purple.

 

 

 

Eagles (and Poco) both replaced Randy Meisner with Timothy B. Schmit as bassist -- both for the better for these bands. 

4 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

no it's not

Oh, and Chad was a huge upgrade for the Chilis.

Yeah, it really is. Oh, and every lineup of the RHCP's sucks. 

8 hours ago, Deej said:

Highway to Hell is better than Back in Black. 

 

8 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

no it's not

I’ve had enough of your BS, Gil. 
 

Name the place and time.  I’ll be there.  

Wings was a better band with Paul McCartney.

I’ve had enough of your BS, Gil. 
 
Name the place and time.  I’ll be there.  

He’ll have at least one backup.

Highway to hell is great. Just about as good as it gets. But Back in Black is a pure masterpiece.
12 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


He’ll have at least one backup.

Highway to hell is great. Just about as good as it gets. But Back in Black is a pure masterpiece.

I’ve got some for you, too.  

12 hours ago, Deej said:

The Rolling Stones got much better when they replaced the dead Brian Jones with Mick Taylor. 

Immediately what I thought of when I saw this thread.

Drive-By Truckers with Jason Isbell

The Hold Steady with Franz Nicolai

Pearl Jam with Dave Abbruzesse

 

9 hours ago, Deej said:

Highway to Hell is better than Back in Black. 

Most of the Bon Scott era is better than Back in Black.

Powerage is AC/DC's pinnacle.  Highway to Hell is close behind it, but Mutt Lange's production kinda mutes/glosses shit.  Relatively speaking of course.

metallica without mustaine.  and i know burton's a mythical hero perched alongside the greatest in the metal pantheon but i don't think metallica is the commercial success they are with him still there.  

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

and i know burton's a mythical hero perched alongside the greatest in the metal pantheon but i don't think metallica is the commercial success they are with him still there.  

Agreed. I fucking love the commercially successful Metallica stuff. It’s right up there in the pantheon of awesome with pumpkin spice lattes, vodka sodas, and that “what if the Ghostbusters were girls?” reboot. 

  • Author
11 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

You shut your whore mouth!

Haha. I love their debut album and Dianno had a more raw feel to his voice. A lot of classics on that album and some on their 2nd. Not sure how far they would have gotten had he stayed around, though.

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

Haha. I love their debut album and Dianno had a more raw feel to his voice. A lot of classics on that album and some on their 2nd. Not sure how far they would have gotten had he stayed around, though.

Dickinson era is fine and there are some gems on this albums, but he brings an over-the-top corniness that detracts from the music. The first two albums have a sharper edge to them and a heavier emphasis on musicality. 

Give an example of a heavier emphasis on musicality than Hallowed be thy Name.

Disagree on the corniness. What he brings is an actual singing voice that compliments the songs 10x better than diano.

15 hours ago, G650 said:

Coming To America Bar GIF

 

I mean, taste is one thing, but Michael McDonald definitely brought a degree of... musical complexity that didn't exist in the Doobies before that. I don't agree with it, but I get it. 

 

13 hours ago, Disco Strangler said:

Genesis - Phil Collins

 

Addition by subtraction, then?

  • Popular Post
13 hours ago, Disco Strangler said:

Genesis - Phil Collins

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Dickinson era is fine and there are some gems on this albums, but he brings an over-the-top corniness that detracts from the music. The first two albums have a sharper edge to them and a heavier emphasis on musicality. 

Oh, no. No no no no no. Gonna be a big no from me. I mean, there's enough corn in the 1980s to fuel Frito Lay for a century, but that corn didn't come from Bruce. He's just a big singer, ya know?

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Oh, no. No no no no no. Gonna be a big no from me. I mean, there's enough corn in the 1980s to fuel Frito Lay for a century, but that corn didn't come from Bruce. He's just a big singer, ya know?

tumblr_m2mlfbyEXO1rs6cfdo1_400.gif

3 hours ago, tbone_ said:


He’ll have at least one backup.

Highway to hell is great. Just about as good as it gets. But Back in Black is a pure masterpiece.

From your lips to gods ears.

 

I mean, after teenage poontang of course, AC/DC was pretty much my raison d'etre in high school. The Bon era was great, there's no doubt, but Back in Black is front to back quality unlike any of the previous albums. One of rocks all time achievements.

14 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Give an example of a heavier emphasis on musicality than Hallowed be thy Name.

Phantom of the Opera, Transylvania, Wrathchild, Murders in the Rue Morgue, Iron Maiden, just to name a few examples. I’m talking about that trademark Maiden combo of a thundering bass line and harmonizing guitars, with melodic fills and memorable solos. 

I mean, if you’re looking for a Bruce era song that excels on musicality, Number of the Beast is the wrong album. There are some killer tunes on Peace of Mind and Powerslave

Lynyrd Skynyrd may have gotten even better with Steve Gaines

12 hours ago, DougO said:

Pink Floyd after Syd went catatonic and they added Gilmour.

Ooh, can you share with us some catatonic post-Barrett, pre-Gilmour Floyd?

1 hour ago, G650 said:

One of rocks all time achievements

…that would have been even better with bon. 

10 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

…that would have been even better with bon. 

And no Mutt Lange.

Back in Black is absolutely top shelf, but when you're judging it against Bon Scott era AC/DC, I'm sorry.  That shit is the pinnacle of hard rock.

Edited by Al_4_ISU

I get that that’s the hip cool take to have but it’s just wrong.

It's not just Bon or not, AC/DC became a much better band over the decade outright. Highway to Hell was one of the first signs of them really making a step forward. But it only has 3 top shelf songs on it. Back in Black was their apotheosis. And on top of that many of their all time best songs came after BiB even.

AC/DC is the DLR / Sammy Hagar argument. Van Halen was better (IMNSHO) with Hagar, but VHI and VH2 are pure.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.