November 20, 20232 yr I don’t understand why it’s hard for people to find things. On Apple TV, the search function works across all apps but Netflix. So two searches and you find what you are looking for, sometimes showing multiple platforms for viewing options. Now if you aren’t subscribed to the service, it’s a business decision. But outside of you Torrent pirates, it’s all a business decision anyway, right?
November 20, 20232 yr It's not so much the finding as keeping track of when new seasons start for umpteen shows across umpteen streaming services.
November 20, 20232 yr On 11/15/2023 at 6:43 AM, Biff Tannen said: Everyone makes fun of me for my shelves of DVDs and Blu Rays
November 22, 20232 yr On 11/15/2023 at 6:43 AM, Biff Tannen said: Everyone makes fun of me for my shelves of DVDs and Blu Rays, but when I want to watch something, there it is. Even if the internet goes down. I can still watch Band of Brothers or Little Big League or The Cell.
December 1, 20232 yr https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/01/apple-paramount-streaming-bundle-report-boosts-media-stocks.html Hopefully rebundling becomes more of a thing.
December 2, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, longhornmatt said: How depressing is it that we’re crawling back to the CABLE COMPANY to say we fucked up and didn’t realize how good we had it? Ehh, I still pay far less than I was paying for cable TV, and I have a lot more content and no (or few) commercials.
December 20, 20232 yr This feels like it's going to end badly for both the talent and the consumer. https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-merger-talks-1235847958/
December 20, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, mdmost said: This feels like it's going to end badly for both the talent and the consumer. https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-merger-talks-1235847958/ eventually there will just be one big studio.
December 21, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, mdmost said: This feels like it's going to end badly for both the talent and the consumer. https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-merger-talks-1235847958/ I feel like Paramount has been on a diet ever since Brad Grey passed away. They make about four movies a year and most of their revenue is licensing their catalogue out to the streamers.
December 21, 20232 yr Bunch of Star Trek content about to get Star Fucked if this happens. It will probably be parted out to various other shitty streaming services. Shit, Warner Brothers is already pushing top-tier DC stuff to other platforms.
December 25, 20231 yr On 12/20/2023 at 2:26 PM, mdmost said: This feels like it's going to end badly for both the talent and the consumer. https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/warner-bros-discovery-paramount-merger-talks-1235847958/ sheeeeeeeeittt... WB + D ended up as as less than the sum of the 2 parts, and the same for Viacom + CBS. The idea that the combo of all of that would somehow be better able to compete with Netflix seems totally ridiculous. Two companies with massive debt, no apparent clue about how to compete in the business they say they want to be in (streaming), yet still basically completely reliant on linear tv revenue. If this merger were to happen the only mystery would be how quickly the new entity would take to implode, and how much the bankers and Zaslav were able to stuff in their own pockets along the way.
January 23, 20241 yr Netflix is now in the live streaming business. Netflix buys rights to WWE Raw, other shows in live streaming push https://www.cbsnews.com/news/netflix-wwe-raw-partnership-live-sports-streaming/ Quote Netflix on Tuesday said it will soon be home to the WWE's most-watched wrestling show, as part of a multibillion-dollar deal that will see the streaming giant enter the ring to compete in covering live sports. The streaming giant is acquiring the rights to WWE Raw in a $5 billion deal to be paid out over 10 years, as the wrestling group's contract with Comcast nears its expiration, Bloomberg reported. The series will begin airing on Netflix in January 2025, and will be available to subscribers in North America and other international markets. WWE is part of TKO Group Holdings. "Our partnership…dramatically expands the reach of WWE, and brings weekly live appointment viewing to Netflix," TKO President and Chief Operating Officer Mark Shapiro said Wednesday in a statement. Edited January 23, 20241 yr by Chopper
January 24, 20241 yr On 12/20/2023 at 9:23 PM, atomheartbevo said: Bunch of Star Trek content about to get Star Fucked if this happens. It will probably be parted out to various other shitty streaming services. Shit, Warner Brothers is already pushing top-tier DC stuff to other platforms. Pluto TV has alotta TNG and OG. Mighta seen some DS9 too. All free w/commercials. I watched Yesterday’s Enterprise like 3 times last week. SO good. Shoulda been a movie. “Let’s make sure history never forgets…the name…’Enterprise.’” Chills every time.
February 6, 20241 yr Well holy shit. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/disney-warner-bros-discovery-fox-launch-sports-streaming-service-1235817744/ nb: "A source says that the new venture, while a major step forward, is not expected to impact ESPN’s plans to offer a direct-to-consumer “flagship” ESPN streaming service, but is meant to complement it. In some ways, the new venture is closer to something like a “skinny bundle” of streaming networks, one that is focused exclusively on channels with live sports, rather than entertainment." Edited February 6, 20241 yr by Chopper
February 19, 20241 yr More enshittening. If I understand this right, Road House got pushed to streaming because…reasons. https://screenrant.com/roadhouse-movie-streaming-theatrical-decision-report/
February 19, 20241 yr I wrote in the thread specifically about this disney/fox/hbod deal that the cable companies are losing their shit about the Iger sports package. I like this thread better for future discussion because it cuts across the entire industry. What disney/hbod/fox have planned is essentially a hulu lite product. I don't see the cable companies being able to stop it based on contractual issues and certainly not anti-trust but that won't stop 'em from trying, esp. Brian Roberts with Comcast. I'll be interested to see if Disney still plans the espn stand-alone product or figures out a way to roll it into a bundle with the new Joint Venture. This article is from last Friday - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/pay-tv-distributors-may-be-planning-their-attack-against-new-sports-joint-venture/ar-BB1ijUyj Quote It's been about a week since Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox announced a new joint venture to offer live sports outside the traditional cable bundle, and pay TV distributors are still trying to figure out just how disruptive the new service will be. The key question for distributors such as Comcast, Charter and DirecTV is whether they'll be allowed to offer the same skinny bundle of linear networks that Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox announced will be available to consumers later this fall. That bundle includes ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, TBS, Fox, FS1, FS2, and a handful of other cable channels that showcase sports. If Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox allow distributors to offer the same product, in addition to the standard cable bundle, there's likely to be minimal consternation about the joint venture. But it's not clear that will be the case, given that may defeat the purpose of its existence. In 2023, Charter began offering a package of cable networks that didn't include sports to lower the cost of cable TV for customers who only wanted news and entertainment. Offering sports to only those people who want to watch sports is good for distributors, but it's harmful to programmers, who benefit from the millions of households that pay for sports but don't watch them. That's why, logically, the new sports joint venture only makes sense if the three media companies bar distributors from offering the same product. So far, the largest pay TV distributors haven't spoken publicly about the forthcoming bundle because they're still gathering information on the joint venture's plans, according to people familiar with their thinking, who asked not to be named because the discussions have been private. Privately, however, leaders at Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox have begun to hear complaints from some distributors, who are concerned the new skinny bundle will lead to increased cable TV cancellations, according to people familiar with the matter. Pay TV distributors typically strike most-favored-nation deals with programmers that allow contracts to be replicated among like partners. It guarantees that a company such as Disney can strike a deal with DirecTV that's similar to its deal with, say, Dish. If the sports joint venture refuses to allow distributors the same terms as it's offering retail customers, distributors could either refuse to carry their networks when carriage renewal deals are up or even sue, according to Craig Moffett, an analyst at MoffettNathanson. "The distributors have been begging for the right to offer cheaper and skinnier bundles, especially bundles that would segregate expensive sports from cheaper non-sports programming, for at least two decades, and they've been met with a brick wall," Moffett said. "At the very least, this would seem to violate the most favored nation clauses that prohibit the programmers from offering better terms and conditions to another distributor, even if that distributor is a JV [joint venture] of the programmers themselves. I would be surprised if there aren't some lawsuits." Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox all rely on the pay-TV distributors for the bulk of their revenue. And while some stand to indirectly benefit from the potential popularity of the joint venture — Charter and Comcast, for example, could see a boost to their broadband businesses, since the digital app would require high-speed internet service for best performance — others, such as DirecTV, Dish and YouTube TV stand more directly in the crosshairs and could lose video subscribers. Still, early conversations between distributor executives and leaders at Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox haven't been particularly substantial, because limited information has been disclosed about the strategy of the joint venture, which hasn't been formally named or even legally agreed upon by the companies. "The formation of the pay service is subject to the negotiation of definitive agreements amongst the parties," Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox said in a statement last week. No leader for the joint venture has been named yet, although one has tentatively been selected, according to people familiar with the matter. Puck reported Tuesday the front-runner is former Apple executive Pete Distad. Disclosure: Comcast owns NBCUniversal, the parent company of CNBC.
February 19, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Chopper said: I'll be interested to see if Disney still plans the espn stand-alone product or figures out a way to roll it into a bundle with the new Joint Venture. If they roll it in, they may have found a way to subsidize the cost of espn, or some of it anyway.
February 19, 20241 yr "Jake Gyllenhaal stars as a former UFC fighter who takes a job as a bouncer at a Florida dive bar." Lulz
February 21, 20241 yr January stats from Nielsen https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2024/colder-weather-and-nfl-playoffs-drive-increased-tv-usage-in-january/ doesn't include the super bowl Most streamed show on netflix was something called "Fool Me Once." On Disney+, it was "Bluey" and on prime it was "Reacher." "Fool Me Once" was streamed for ~50% more total minutes than "Reacher" which gives a huge comparison about the value of Netflix vs Prime imo. Edited February 21, 20241 yr by Chopper
February 22, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, Chopper said: January stats from Nielsen https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2024/colder-weather-and-nfl-playoffs-drive-increased-tv-usage-in-january/ doesn't include the super bowl Most streamed show on netflix was something called "Fool Me Once." On Disney+, it was "Bluey" and on prime it was "Reacher." "Fool Me Once" was streamed for ~50% more total minutes than "Reacher" which gives a huge comparison about the value of Netflix vs Prime imo. so the january stats don't include ratings from a football game played on feb 11th?
February 22, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: so the january stats don't include ratings from a football game played on feb 11th? Edited February 22, 20241 yr by Chopper
February 27, 20241 yr I dunno man. I'm gonna have to say the fact that Netflix is the only streamer adding new users, that WB Discovery's market value has gone from $130B to $60B in 2 years since the merger, and their subscriber numbers haven't budged since Max debuted has more to do with it than AI. And their studio business has sucked despite a hit like Barbie, and paramount's studio is sitting on the market without a bidding frenzy surrounding it. But that's just me. WBD's earnings were announced on Friday. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-23/warner-bros-sales-miss-as-tv-advertising-continues-to-fall Quote Total subscriber numbers for Max were buried deep in WBD’s earnings announcement for a reason. The growth rate, whether measured sequentially or year over year, was unimpressive for a frame in which Netflix bolted on 13.1 million subscribers. Max’s worldwide subscriber base stood at 97.7 million at the end of last year, up from 96.9 million at the end of 2022. Domestic subscribers stood at 52 million, down from 54.6 million in the year-ago period. Quote WBD is in the same leaky streaming boat as Disney, Comcast and Paramount Global when it comes to squeezing out a profit from its direct-to-consumer ambitions. The solution for all of them seems to be moving away from the “direct” and “consumer” parts of the equation and back to the B-word: Bundling. https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/warner-bros-discovery-zaslav-q4-earnings-warning-1235921220/ Edited February 27, 20241 yr by Chopper link
February 29, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, BeardIP said: Read yesterday WBD bailed on their pursuit to acquire Paramount. I’m skeptical it was serious in the first place, rather it was floated in the press to see how the market would react.
April 18, 20241 yr On 11/16/2023 at 3:15 PM, henrygandorf said: gee, you think so, doctor? Since the thread got necrobumped, I can go back and necro-rep a criminally underused movie quote.
April 18, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, BeardIP said: AI generated movie trailer: my wife would watch this movie.
April 19, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, BeardIP said: You still think Netflix is dead in the water (you predicted their demise in 3 years like a year ago, right?) go reread what i actually said and you’ll see that most of my prediction has already happened. their library is for shit and about half is foreign language. they have done a nice job of picking the bones of the other suffering platforms though. oh, and their stock is down 50+ points today. but sure, go netflix.
April 19, 20241 yr I think Netflix is pretty well poised with so many other streaming platforms falling apart. They're content seems to be improving lately as they scoop it up from the failing platforms. Edited April 19, 20241 yr by NotActuallyALonghorn
April 19, 20241 yr Netflix has the deepest original content pool of watchable stuff. Others have a better series but not much else after that. I don't think I've watched anything on Hulu that wasn't FX made.
April 19, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, BeardIP said: At best you were dead wrong about password sharing crackdown, as subscribers and growth has risen on the back of that pivot. You are going to read the above and tell me that you aren’t pacing to be wrong, granted it hasn’t been 3 years? is this a serious post? i said it was bad timing to crack down on it. that’s not really something that anyone can be right or wrong about, let alone dead wrong. but sure, take your victory lap, you’ve probably earned it for all your obsession. as for my 3 year prediction, you know what the word “or” means, right? the second part of that sentence has already happened and it took less than a year. they’re a legacy streamer, which is an advantage, and other streamers are run by morons or shouldn’t have been started in the first place, which also helps them. in general, people are lazy. that’s why most will keep netflix despite the drop in quality or price increases, just like most olds keep cable, because that’s what they’ve always done. the good news for netflix is that they can afford to keep making multi-billion dollar mistakes. yay.
April 19, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, BeardIP said: Also I haven’t googled it, but count me surprised that Netflix is now 50% foreign language full of other peoples IP and very little original content. guessing you don’t spend much time on the platform.
April 19, 20241 yr Almost 1/3 is pretty close to 50+%? @henrygandorf you weren’t a math major were you 😁
April 19, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, UT_OB1 said: Almost 1/3 is pretty close to 50+%? @henrygandorf you weren’t a math major were you 😁 well i still have 2 years to get there, so i guess you weren’t a calendar major, were you?
April 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, UT_OB1 said: Almost 1/3 is pretty close to 50+%? @henrygandorf you weren’t a math major were you 😁
April 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Scary Stranger said: You guys going to hate fuck or what? If they film it and post it here, will it summon @NowThis?
April 22, 20241 yr Maybe that's what it tells you. It tells me corporate governance is all fucked up.
May 14, 20241 yr 2 developments worth mentioning in the streaming biz. Netflix and the NFL are supposedly about to announce that 2 xmas day games will be shown on Netflix. Supposedly exclusive. Also in an effort to "stop the churn," build up a bigger audience to make Hulu more appealing to advertisers, and to better compete with Netflix, Max/Hbo has given Hulu permission to sell it as a bundle together with Hulu and Disney. Price points not announced https://press.disneyplus.com/disney-entertainment-and-warner-bros-discovery-announce-disney-plus-hulu-max-bundle Impact on me is no big deal. Hulu mostly sucks. I have it free through Amex and rarely watch it. Dgaf about Marvel, and one or two months of subscription per year is enough to watch what I'd want to see on hbo.
May 14, 20241 yr I have the Disney bundle with ESPN but still can’t access ESPN college football unless I buy ESPN + dicks
May 14, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Neonmoon said: I have the Disney bundle with ESPN but still can’t access ESPN college football unless I buy ESPN + dicks You can only get certain games on ESPN+ and they're probably not games you want to watch. You don't get ESPN games with ESPN+. Not yet at least. That's coming from Disney but not till 2025.
May 14, 20241 yr On 4/22/2024 at 11:23 AM, BeardIP said: Cost cutting is profitable is what this tell us. On 4/22/2024 at 1:46 PM, WBT said: Maybe that's what it tells you. It tells me corporate governance is all fucked up. On 4/22/2024 at 1:49 PM, BeardIP said: Agreed. Total hate the game, not the playa type thing. Would you be up in arms if the government cracked down on corporate regulations though?
May 14, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Neonmoon said: I have the Disney bundle with ESPN but still can’t access ESPN college football unless I buy ESPN + dicks 3 hours ago, mdmost said: You can only get certain games on ESPN+ and they're probably not games you want to watch. You don't get ESPN games with ESPN+. Not yet at least. That's coming from Disney but not till 2025. I've got Disney+ and Hulu/ESPN+ on two different subs. Last I checked, I don't think I can graft Hulu/ESPN+ onto Disney+ without killing both subs and starting over. It's dumb.
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