March 27, 20232 yr Saw this on another site, source is the census: Moved From Outside the US Houston: 374,016 Dallas/Fort Worth: 309,690 Austin: 96,234 San Antonio: 53,281 Midland: 11,863 Odessa: 9,406 Amarillo: 7,110 Beaumont: 5,661 Corpus Christi: 5,063 Bryan/College Station: 4,265 Lubbock: 5,132 Killeen/Temple: 4,110 Waco: 3,938 Longview: 3,113 Tyler: 2,583 Abilene: 2,410 McAllen: 1,911 San Angelo: -939 Wichita Falls: -1,001 El Paso: -4,310 Brownsville: -4,469 Laredo: -5,631Moved from Northeastern States Dallas/Fort Worth: 51,384 Austin: 33,382 Houston: 24,080 San Antonio: 10,144 El Paso: 1,215 Longview: 1,857 Waco: 1,479 Laredo: 1,080 Odessa: 986 Abilene: 901 Tyler: 829 College Station/Bryan: 797 Amarillo: 598 Killeen/Temple: 470 Lubbock: 380 San Angelo: 203 Wichita Falls: 101 Brownsville: 16 Beaumont: -240 Midland: -343 Corpus Christi: -1,105 McAllen: -1,948Moved from Midwestern States Dallas/Fort Worth: 66,708 Austin: 41,629 Houston: 33,729 San Antonio: 17,169 Killeen/Temple: 3,874 Waco: 3,621 Longview: 3,491 College Station/Bryan: 2,575 Midland: 1,807 Abilene: 699 San Angelo: 456 Wichita Falls: 431 Laredo: 386 Tyler: 384 Lubbock: 379 Beaumont: -191 Odessa: -289 Amarillo: -1,236 Brownsville: -1,590 El Paso: -1,914 McAllen: -4,038 Corpus Christi: -5,924Moved From Other Southern States Dallas/Fort Worth: 80,733 Austin: 44,703 Houston: 40,022 San Antonio: 30,315 Killeen/Temple: 10,256 Longview: 9,752 El Paso: 4,608 College Station/Bryan: 3,939 Brownsville: 2,890 Tyler: 1,977 Waco: 1,720 Wichita Falls: 1,689 San Angelo: 1,269 Abilene: 1,200 Midland: 155 Lubbock: 111 Odessa: -112 McAllen: -144 Laredo: -713 Amarillo: -2,414 Corpus Christi: -5,477 Beaumont: -6,082Moved From Western States Dallas/Fort Worth: 114,515 Austin: 64,264 Houston: 57,222 San Antonio: 48,771 Killeen/Temple: 13,380 Lubbock: 6,062 College Station/Bryan: 5,930 Waco: 5,601 Odessa: 5,341 El Paso: 5,287 Longview: 5,262 Amarillo: 3,812 Midland: 2,687 Lubbock: 2,600 Tyler: 21,555 San Angelo: 1,909 Corpus Christi: 631 Abilene: 490 Brownsville: 345 Beaumont: 228 Wichita Falls: -119 Laredo: -152 Here is are the same metro areas by race (yes I know Hispanic isn't a race but the Census treats it similarly). Data is from the same time period (2011-2022):Hispanic Growth Houston: 669,460 Dallas/Fort Worth: 504,053 San Antonio: 282,459 Austin: 208,632 McAllen: 115,959 El Paso: 70,982 Killeen/Temple: 34,578 Odessa: 30,798 Midland: 29,563 Lubbock: 28,305 Brownsville: 27,394 Corpus Christi: 24,753 Waco: 20,363 Laredo: 20,164 Amarillo: 20,009 Beaumont: 19,036 Longview: 17,458 College Station/Bryan: 14,104 Tyler: 11,931 San Angelo: 10,886 Abilene: 8,416 Wichita Falls: 5,963White Growth Austin: 208,790 Dallas/Fort Worth: 173,876 Houston: 89,531 San Antonio: 56,937 Longview: 36,275 College Station/Tyler: 11,926 Waco: 10,671 Tyler: 6,785 Killeen/Temple: 5,240 Lubbock: 4,553 Midland: 2,447 Laredo: 66 Abilene: -1,151 San Angelo: -1,126 Amarillo: -4,962 El Paso: -6,444 Odessa: -8,230 Brownsville: -8,274 Wichita Falls: -8,701 McAllen: -10,823 Beaumont: -13,770 Corpus Christi: -30,623Black Growth Dallas/Fort Worth: 266,247 Houston: 204,649 San Antonio: 33,173 Austin: 32,441 Killeen/Temple: 16,176 Longview: 12,492 Waco: 9,091 College Station/Bryan: 4,627 El Paso: 3,773 Lubbock: 2,146 Odessa: 1,910 Tyler: 1,665 Amarillo: 1,631 Midland: 1,511 Beaumont: 1,285 McAllen: 1,115 Abilene: 1,013 Brownsville: 289 Laredo: 232 San Angelo: 172 Corpus Christi: -278 Wichita Falls: -781Asian Growth Dallas/Fort Worth: 220,207 Houston: 197,210 Austin: 57,025 San Antonio: 22,977 Amarillo: 3,971 College Station/Bryan: 3,438 Killeen/Temple: 2,663 Lubbock: 2,131 Corpus Christi: 1,963 Midland: 1,552 Tyler: 1,477 El Paso: 1,319 Abilene: 1,247 Beaumont: 1,113 Waco: 1,101 McAllen: 885 Odessa: 686 San Angelo: 490 Longview: 413 Brownsville: 222 Laredo: -142 Wichita Falls: -159 Below is data from a Linkedin report which focuses solely on professional adults and where they moved. There are not numbers associated with it, but anyway here is the list of top 10 in-migration markets for DFW, Houston, and Austin. Time frame is 2012-2022:Dallas/Fort Worth 1) Chicago 2) Washington DC 3) Oklahoma City 4) College Station/Bryan 5) Lubbock 6) Minneapolis/St. Paul 7) Kansas City😎 Philadelphia 9) Waco 10) HoustonAustin 1) San Francisco Bay Area 2) Los Angeles 3) New York City 4) Washington DC 5) Dallas/Fort Worth 6) Portland, OR 7) Houston😎 College Station/Bryan 9) Chicago 10) BostonHouston 1) Washington DC 2) New Orleans 3) Chicago 4) Miami/Fort Lauderdale 5) New York City 6) Lafayette 7) Baton Rouge😎 Atlanta 9) Philadelphia 10) Oklahoma City
March 27, 20232 yr So this pretty much settles the Houston vs Dallas debate. Are there even any Texans in Dallas? Between the Sooners and yanks, a few hundred?
March 27, 20232 yr Funny thing is I see plates in Austin from everywhere but fewer and fewer CA plates. Also, I'm surprised to see Houston so low... at one point, the state the sent the most people to Austin was Texas. Austin 1) San Francisco Bay Area 2) Los Angeles 3) New York City 4) Washington DC 5) Dallas/Fort Worth 6) Portland, OR 7) Houston 😎 College Station/Bryan 9) Chicago 10) Boston
March 27, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, fattyflattie said: So this pretty much settles the Houston vs Dallas debate. Are there even any Texans in Dallas? Between the Sooners and yanks, a few hundred? If this makes people in Houston feel better about drinking our doodoo water then okay.
March 27, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, fattyflattie said: So this pretty much settles the Houston vs Dallas debate. Are there even any Texans in Dallas? Between the Sooners and yanks, a few hundred?
March 27, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Below is data from a Linkedin report which focuses solely on professional adults and where they moved. There are not numbers associated with it, but anyway here is the list of top 10 in-migration markets for DFW, Houston, and Austin. Time frame is 2012-2022:Dallas/Fort Worth 9) Waco Well well well my DFW friends. I'll show you how to properly mix the kool-aid next time I'm in town.
March 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, mdmost said: If this makes people in Houston feel better about drinking our doodoo water then okay. You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here]. Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul. Dallas.
March 27, 20232 yr Popular Post Well we (Dallas) had no soul to begin with so not really much to lose. Edited March 27, 20232 yr by mdmost
March 27, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, mdmost said: Well we (Dallas) had no soul to begin with so not really much to lose. Well, you do have a soul... its just black and cold.
March 27, 20232 yr Anyone remember growing up when the idea of a new classmate that wasn’t from Texas was pretty much non-existent?
March 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, royiv said: White people love themselves some Austin. Thinking the same. I hadn't realized just how "white" Austin is and has been.
March 27, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said: Anyone remember growing up when the idea of a new classmate that wasn’t from Texas was pretty much non-existent? Shoot... living in Houston, I remember new classmates from Belgium, Norway and Canada (oohhh... exotic... Canada). Overseas new classmates were pretty normal.
March 27, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said: Thinking the same. I hadn't realized just how "white" Austin is and has been. yeah, those numbers jumped out lol
March 27, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, texasdago said: Shoot... living in Houston, I remember new classmates from Belgium, Norway and Canada (oohhh... exotic... Canada). Overseas new classmates were pretty normal. interesting, and yeah i can see how being an energy hub would bring folks from all over. dallas burb here, i don't ever recall ever meeting a kid that wasn't from there.
March 27, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, mdmost said: Well we (Dallas) had no soul to begin with so not really much to lose.
March 27, 20232 yr MIGRATION TO TEXAS METROS LARGEST DOMESTIC SOURCE FOREIGN NORTHEAST MIDWEST SOUTH WEST TOTAL US FOREIGN TOTAL % OF US % OF TOT % OF TOT Dallas/Fort Worth 51,384 66,708 80,733 114,515 313,340 309,690 623,030 WEST 36.5% 18.4% 49.7% Houston 24,080 33,729 40,022 57,222 155,053 374,016 529,069 WEST 36.9% 10.8% 70.7% Austin 33,382 41,629 44,703 64,264 183,978 96,234 280,212 WEST 34.9% 22.9% 34.3% San Antonio 10,144 17,169 30,315 48,771 106,399 53,281 159,680 WEST 45.8% 30.5% 33.4% Killeen/Temple 470 3,874 10,256 13,380 27,980 4,110 32,090 WEST 47.8% 41.7% 12.8% Tyler 829 384 1,977 21,555 24,745 2,583 27,328 WEST 87.1% 78.9% 9.5% Longview 1,857 3,491 9,752 5,262 20,362 3,113 23,475 SOUTH 47.9% 41.5% 13.3% College Station/Bryan 797 2,575 3,939 5,930 13,241 4,265 17,506 WEST 44.8% 33.9% 24.4% Waco 1,479 3,621 1,720 5,601 12,421 3,938 16,359 WEST 45.1% 34.2% 24.1% Midland -343 1,807 155 2,687 4,306 11,863 16,169 WEST 62.4% 16.6% 73.4% Odessa 986 -289 -112 5,341 5,926 9,406 15,332 WEST 90.1% 34.8% 61.3% Lubbock 380 379 111 6,062 6,932 5,132 12,064 WEST 87.4% 50.2% 42.5% Amarillo 598 -1,236 -2,414 3,812 760 7,110 7,870 WEST 501.6% 48.4% 90.3% Abilene 901 699 1,200 490 3,290 2,410 5,700 SOUTH 36.5% 21.1% 42.3% El Paso 1,215 -1,914 4,608 5,287 9,196 -4,310 4,886 WEST 57.5% 108.2% -88.2% San Angelo 203 456 1,269 1,909 3,837 -939 2,898 WEST 49.8% 65.9% -32.4% Wichita Falls 101 431 1,689 -119 2,102 -1,001 1,101 SOUTH 80.4% 153.4% -90.9% Beaumont -240 -191 -6,082 228 -6,285 5,661 -624 WEST -3.6% -36.5% -907.2% McAllen -1,948 -4,038 -144 2,600 -3,530 1,911 -1,619 WEST -73.7% -160.6% -118.0% Brownsville 16 -1,590 2,890 345 1,661 -4,469 -2,808 SOUTH 174.0% -102.9% 159.2% Laredo 1,080 386 -713 -152 601 -5,631 -5,030 NORTHEAST 179.7% -21.5% 111.9% Corpus Christi -1,105 -5,924 -5,477 631 -11,875 5,063 -6,812 WEST -5.3% -9.3% -74.3%
March 27, 20232 yr ^^^^ Decided to put the first set of figures into a table to make some sense out of it. The first thing that jumps out is that for almost all the metros, the West is the largest source of domestic migrants. Secondly, international migration makes up a majority in Houston, DFW, Midland/Odessa, and Amarillo (interesting case there with lots of SE Asians coming over to work in meatpacking). That might explain some of the white vs. other races/ethnicities differences between DFW/Houston and Austin. Surprisingly, all the border metros except for McAllen are LOSING population to foreign countries. I can't explain Corpus losing so many folks to every other part of the country except for a trickle from the West coming in. Man, Beaumont and Corpus better keep that flow of international migrants going or they're going to suffer a complete demographic death.
March 27, 20232 yr One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros. Edit: One last, last point to make is what the fuck is going on with the migration pipelines for Laredo and Brownsville. Who's moving from the northeast to Laredo? I guess with the Brownsville metro including some coastal communities, I suppose I could understand people from the South moving there for retirement. Edited March 27, 20232 yr by bolverk
March 27, 20232 yr Author 43 minutes ago, texasdago said: You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here]. Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul. Dallas. Like Dallas Dallas or Carrollton Dallas?
March 27, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Like Dallas Dallas or Carrollton Dallas? Like Dallas its all Dallas Dallas to me.
March 27, 20232 yr Author 9 minutes ago, bolverk said: One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros. Yea. I think Dallas has the most from the south right? Houston is heavy internationally 38 minutes ago, royiv said: White people love themselves some Austin. I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland
March 27, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, texasdago said: Foreigners who show up in Midland, Odessa and Amarillo... within about 6 months, we had people transfer from Seattle and SLC, Utah to Lubbock. Seattle peep didn't make it 2 years. SLC has been trying to get out since they got here. The Gif captures it perfectly. " Even we were asking them, WTF were you thinking?"
March 27, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, bolverk said: One last point to make on Austin is that it seems like it has the best "balance" of migrants from all geographic sources among the major metros. Edit: One last, last point to make is what the fuck is going on with the migration pipelines for Laredo and Brownsville. Who's moving from the northeast to Laredo? I guess with the Brownsville metro including some coastal communities, I suppose I could understand people from the South moving there for retirement. No idea on Laredo, it’s a growing town though. Brownsville/Harlingen has always been a big snowbird destination
March 27, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, slorch said: within about 6 months, we had people transfer from Seattle and SLC, Utah to Lubbock. Seattle peep didn't make it 2 years. SLC has been trying to get out since they got here. The Gif captures it perfectly. " Even we were asking them, WTF were you thinking?" Its interesting, I have a client in Coral Gables who was telling me that a lot of people struggle moving to Miami because it is so different than what they are used to (obviously from a different perspective). I love Miami and south FL but lots of domestic transfers struggle. I would thank anyone from anywhere anytime would struggle in Midland, Odessa, etc.
March 27, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, texasdago said: Its interesting, I have a client in Coral Gables who was telling me that a lot of people struggle moving to Miami because it is so different than what they are used to (obviously from a different perspective). I love Miami and south FL but lots of domestic transfers struggle. I would thank anyone from anywhere anytime would struggle in Midland, Odessa, etc. Miami people are worse than New Yorkers. Uncouth jerks. And the language thing
March 27, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Yea. I think Dallas has the most from the south right? Houston is heavy internationally I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland Dallas pulling more from the South sort of makes sense if they're using US Census-defined regions, as I'm sure their in-migrant numbers are over-represented by Okies and Arkies.
March 27, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said: Anyone remember growing up when the idea of a new classmate that wasn’t from Texas was pretty much non-existent? Does Mexico count?
March 27, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, bolverk said: Dallas pulling more from the South sort of makes sense if they're using US Census-defined regions, as I'm sure their in-migrant numbers are over-represented by Okies and Arkies. Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern. Dc as well
March 27, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Helobious said: No idea on Laredo, it’s a growing town though. Brownsville/Harlingen has always been a big snowbird destination I guess I never really think about people from the South as being snowbirds. Usually, it's the Minnesota tags you notice on I-35 during migration season so I assumed it would be "those people" who'd be making the move permanently. I'm still befuddled by the Northeast to Laredo thing.
March 27, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, texasdago said: Like Dallas its all Dallas Dallas to me. Is atascocita the same as sugarland to you too? Is Nassau bay the same as willis? Are any of them the same as Houston Houston? 1 minute ago, closetohumping said: Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern. Dc as well Do you Mason-Dixon Line?
March 27, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Miami people are worse than New Yorkers. Uncouth jerks. And the language thing I like Miami... now admittedly as you get closer to Boca Raton, West Palm, etc. you get the worst of the north. Had a waiter in Boca thank me for thanking him since he would always get ordered around. " 1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said: Is atascocita the same as sugarland to you too? Is Nassau bay the same as willis? Are any of them the same as Houston Houston? I lived in Houston... I don't know what the hell those places are.
March 27, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Totally off topic but I can’t believe Maryland and Delaware are considered southern. Dc as well South of the historic Mason/Dixon line. Of course, culturally they're not so southern anymore. Just keep in mind, this is used just for statistical purposes.
March 27, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Yea. I think Dallas has the most from the south right? Houston is heavy internationally I’d call it the white Atlanta but I’ve been to denver and Portland Denver actually has a higher percentage of AAs than Austin, which is pretty obvious just cruising around the city. it's the hispanic population that is significantly lower, which i assume is primarily bc Texas is a border state. one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄
March 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, texasdago said: You know... this reminds me... I know someone who recently left Austin because they felt Austin was losing its soul and authenticity and, you know, [insert usual gripes about Austin here]. Yeah... anyway, his solution was to move to a more authentic place that had not lost its soul. Dallas. As a born and raised Austinite, I can understand this. I moved out of state for work and then moved back to TX for work about 4 years ago. We could choose between Austin, Dallas and Houston. Considered all three and ultimately chose Houston for its diversity, cultural amenities and damn good cuisine. People we met when looking also seemed generally more friendly and welcoming, too. It certainly doesn't hurt that real estate and the accompanying property taxes are a lot more affordable than Austin. In short, Austin has lost its place as a really cool and cheap place to live. It has become a really expensive place to live with some cool attributes. I can understand why some people would balance those things and choose elsewhere since my wife and I did exactly that.
March 27, 20232 yr I 1 minute ago, longhornmatt said: Embrace the big city elitism. You know you want to, Austin. You have the only Four Seasons in the world that is decorated like a Marriott Courtyard because “Keep Austin Weird! Omg, we’re just a college town and so laid back and casual.” No, you’re not. Your 3/2 house already costs more than the lifetime earnings of the entire state of Ohio. Come over to the dark side, put on your shiny shoes, import some Italian marble, and wallow in the decadence. If anything, instead of Dallas leased thirthythousandaires, we have Austin Telsa idiots.
March 27, 20232 yr Author 9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said: Is atascocita the same as sugarland to you too? Is Nassau bay the same as willis? Are any of them the same as Houston Houston? Do you Mason-Dixon Line? Eff that line. Which side did Maryland fight for?
March 27, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, royiv said: As a born and raised Austinite, I can understand this. I moved out of state for work and then moved back to TX for work about 4 years ago. We could choose between Austin, Dallas and Houston. Considered all three and ultimately chose Houston for its diversity, cultural amenities and damn good cuisine. People we met when looking also seemed generally more friendly and welcoming, too. As someone who moved from Houston, I would not make the same comment I did about Dallas to someone who moved to Houston... Houston has always had its own thing going on that is not pretentious or fake.
March 27, 20232 yr Author 4 minutes ago, mchookem said: Denver actually has a higher percentage of AAs than Austin, which is pretty obvious just cruising around the city. it's the hispanic population that is significantly lower, which i assume is primarily bc Texas is a border state. one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄 You like it so far? I loved there for three years
March 27, 20232 yr Dallas is touchy today... so, just in case, here is something to show you we all love you...
March 27, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, royiv said: Considered all three and ultimately chose Houston for its diversity, cultural amenities and damn good cuisine. People we met when looking also seemed generally more friendly and welcoming, too.
March 27, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Eff that line. Which side did Maryland fight for? Are you trying to get haunted by Judge Taney? Edited March 27, 20232 yr by SimonBolivar
March 27, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said: Are you trying to get haunted by Judge Tawny? Depends. Hot or not?
March 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said: Thinking the same. I hadn't realized just how "white" Austin is and has been. It's all those motherfuckers from collie station. 40 minutes ago, mchookem said: one of my earliest observations last summer when we moved here was that all the construction and roadwork crews were dominantly white and black... which was definitely different than Texas 😄 The races may be different but no matter where, there is still only one dude working while at least 3 dudes stand around supervising.
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