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#17401
2 hours ago, Gourmand said:
List of no-hitters by the Astros from @ATTSportsNetSW during their broadcast of today’s game. The name for the pitcher of the 2015 no-hitter was deleted (Mike Fiers😝). I have no problem with that!

 

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#17402

I sometimes catch myself worrying about Alvarez’ health. If it’s not an oblique, we’ll then he’s now got a head cold that backs up his rehab start by 3 days. Or he gets lightheaded in left field (perhaps from the firecrackers) Or he has to be sent home for health reasons right before an important road trip to Tampa Bay. 

I’m just saying a lot of things seem to happen. And my God, he’s 27. I don’t think I even saw one doctor in my whole 20’s. 
 

And JV worries me as well. 
 

They make me think about the glass blowers on the island of Murano near Venice, Italy. 
 

Yea, that shit is kick ass, but how the fuck do you keep it from breaking?

These are my concerns, dude. 
 

In stark contrast is King Tuck. He is a fucking Ironman. Every day 5-tool player. Consistent. 

#17403
1 minute ago, Overlord said:

I sometimes catch myself worrying about Alvarez’ health. If it’s not an oblique, we’ll then he’s now got a head cold that backs up his rehab start by 3 days. Or he gets lightheaded in left field (perhaps from the firecrackers) Or he has to be sent home for health reasons right before an important road trip to Tampa Bay. 

I’m just saying a lot of things seem to happen. And my God, he’s 27. I don’t think I even saw one doctor in my whole 20’s. 
 

And JV worries me as well. 
 

They make me think about the glass blowers on the island of Murano near Venice, Italy. 
 

Yea, that shit is kick ass, but how the fuck do you keep it from breaking?

These are my concerns, dude. 
 

In stark contrast is King Tuck. He is a fucking Ironman. Every day 5-tool player. Consistent. 

Calm Down Al Pacino GIF

#17404
4 hours ago, Gourmand said:

I love the swagger and if any fanbase deserves to flip bats it's us, but some of y'all aren't giving the Rangers enough credit imo. That lineup is stacked and they just addressed their glaring team weaknesses so it's going to be a dogfight for the division title. They aren't fading away. The Astros need to put together a long 10 gm winning streak like they have in past seasons.

I don’t expect them to fade.  I am saying they overachieved first half of the season and should come back to earth a bit, without crashing.

I also expect the Astros to stretch it out to where last 2 weeks of the season, there’s no worrying about hpu’s and judgment call bullshit with a pennant in the balance.

#17405
22 minutes ago, Overlord said:

I’m just saying a lot of things seem to happen. And my God, he’s 27. I don’t think I even saw one doctor in my whole 20’s. 

Not even for carpal tunnel syndrome?

#17406
52 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:
The Astros optioned Ronel Blanco back to Triple-A Sugar Land after his start today. They've now optioned him four times this season. Players can only be optioned five times in a season before they must be exposed to waivers.

 

huh, he wasn't too bad today.  

 

#17407
1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Dusty also give multiple guys off days at the same time while doing shit like putting Julks at DH. It's not the off days, but the absolute shit lineups he likes to run out from time to time for no reason.

my theory is the data analytics dudes are running the show with the possibility that the more some players, even the great ones, are played the lower their production. So, play some guys some days and sit others to maximize everyone's production.  Whatever. 

#17408
17 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

my theory is the data analytics dudes are running the show with the possibility that the more some players, even the great ones, are played the lower their production. So, play some guys some days and sit others to maximize everyone's production.  Whatever. 

Your theory is so logical that I'm sure it's untrue. 

Edited by Gut Wagon

#17409

Dusty is a wizard…

 

 

 

 

 

 

of blah!!!

 

 

 

 

 

#17410

Trigger alert ……..

Houston's pitchers rave about Maldonado after the veteran catches third no-hitter (from @AP) #astros https://t.co/V6pRUpejZb

woman middle finger GIF by Cheezburger
 

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#17412

All the talk about Maldy’s game management. Enough. 
 

He calls no pitches himself. He looks to the dugout after every pitch. Every single pitch. I’ve never seen him not look to the dugout for the call. 
 

I guess that takes a lot of long nights sitting at the dinning table with a bucket of chicken, looking at spreadsheets and vinn diagrams. 

#17413
9 minutes ago, Overlord said:

All the talk about Maldy’s game management. Enough. 
 

He calls no pitches himself. He looks to the dugout after every pitch. Every single pitch. I’ve never seen him not look to the dugout for the call. 
 

I guess that takes a lot of long nights sitting at the dinning table with a bucket of chicken, looking at spreadsheets and vinn diagrams. 

So are you saying it’s really Brac that is the wizard behind the curtain/bullpen fence calling all of the shots via the dugout and then Maldy?

#17414
5 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

So are you saying it’s really Brac that is the wizard behind the curtain/bullpen fence calling all of the shots via the dugout and then Maldy?

I don’t know who’s calling them, and I have no problem with. Maybe pitching coach?

I got no problem with who calls pitches, but with the talk about his game planning and studying, I would think he would have more input.
 

I’m not seeing shit. He looks to the dugout every single pitch. It’s annoying now. 

 

#17415
Cristian Javier through an interpreter on what Martín Maldonado means to the Astros: “He’s a great person and means a great deal to me. For me, it’s almost like God put him here for us, to be able to guide us through these games.” https://t.co/lctj6Yukqv

It's almost like the Machete haters refuse to believe these players when it's been explained many times. Ffs, even Chandler tweeted an aggressive "let me dumb it down for you, stupid" recently in answering the Maldonado vs Diaz question.

I'm not saying I want Machete over Diaz, I'm just accepting the reality as explained by Astros pitchers and insiders. It is what it is.

#17416
12 minutes ago, Overlord said:

I don’t know who’s calling them, and I have no problem with. Maybe pitching coach?

I got no problem with who calls pitches, but with the talk about his game planning and studying, I would think he would have more input.
 

I’m not seeing shit. He looks to the dugout every single pitch. It’s annoying now. 

 

Maldy is the one calling the pitches dude jfc

#17417
10 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
Cristian Javier through an interpreter on what Martín Maldonado means to the Astros: “He’s a great person and means a great deal to me. For me, it’s almost like God put him here for us, to be able to guide us through these games.” https://t.co/lctj6Yukqv

It's almost like the Machete haters refuse to believe these players when it's been explained many times. Ffs, even Chandler tweeted an aggressive "let me dumb it down for you, stupid" recently in answering the Maldonado vs Diaz question.

I'm not saying I want Machete over Diaz, I'm just accepting the reality as explained by Astros pitchers and insiders. It is what it is.

We all understand that the pitchers believe this; however, the Machete haters also believe it’s bullshit. This is why they can’t bring Maldy back next year. It could create team chemistry issues if they bring him back as a true backup to Diaz.

#17419
2 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

We all understand that the pitchers believe this; however, the Machete haters also believe it’s bullshit.

its pretty damn obvious whose opinions matter in this scenario

#17420
3 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

its pretty damn obvious whose opinions matter in this scenario

Yeah, you need at least several thousand posts here.

#17421
28 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
Cristian Javier through an interpreter on what Martín Maldonado means to the Astros: “He’s a great person and means a great deal to me. For me, it’s almost like God put him here for us, to be able to guide us through these games.” https://t.co/lctj6Yukqv

It's almost like the Machete haters refuse to believe these players when it's been explained many times. Ffs, even Chandler tweeted an aggressive "let me dumb it down for you, stupid" recently in answering the Maldonado vs Diaz question.

I'm not saying I want Machete over Diaz, I'm just accepting the reality as explained by Astros pitchers and insiders. It is what it is.

Who fucking cares?  He catches better pitchers and his cERA is half a run higher. They are wrong. It means nothing. 

#17423
36 minutes ago, Gourmand said:
Cristian Javier through an interpreter on what Martín Maldonado means to the Astros: “He’s a great person and means a great deal to me. For me, it’s almost like God put him here for us, to be able to guide us through these games.” https://t.co/lctj6Yukqv

It's almost like the Machete haters refuse to believe these players when it's been explained many times. Ffs, even Chandler tweeted an aggressive "let me dumb it down for you, stupid" recently in answering the Maldonado vs Diaz question.

I'm not saying I want Machete over Diaz, I'm just accepting the reality as explained by Astros pitchers and insiders. It is what it is.


the surly thread has 0 years of pro baseball experience, of course they know better 

#17426
2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The melt down when maldy gets a one year deal will be epic 

pet sweater GIF
 

Right before I get the news of Maldy’s 1 year deal.

#17428
34 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Who fucking cares?  He catches better pitchers and his cERA is half a run higher. They are wrong. It means nothing. 

100% this. If he isn’t better than the other guy in any sort of measurable way when he plays - any at all - then it’s all make-believe. 

I have no doubt that they like him. Hell I wouldn’t argue that he hasn’t helped them become better players. None of that has anything to do with playing him over Diaz in 2023 when every conceivable metric demonstrates that Diaz is the superior player in ways that can be directly linked to actually winning baseball games.

Make him the backup, keep him around. If all his value is unobservable anyway, then let him hang out in the dugout 4 out of every 5 games.  

 

#17429
44 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Who fucking cares?  He catches better pitchers and his cERA is half a run higher. They are wrong. It means nothing. 


maldy is doing a great job of training Diaz 

#17430
1 hour ago, Gourmand said:
Cristian Javier through an interpreter on what Martín Maldonado means to the Astros: “He’s a great person and means a great deal to me. For me, it’s almost like God put him here for us, to be able to guide us through these games.” https://t.co/lctj6Yukqv

 

 

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#17431

Chas was robbed ….

Complete BS! They don’t put Ohtani’s 4.75 ERA in July up there. Chas had a better month.Chas: .351/.440/.688, 1.128 OPS, 207 wRC+, 1.6 fWAROhtani: .282/.447/.705/, 1.152 OPS, 192 wRC+, 1.3 fWAR https://t.co/184H07k9Sl

 

#17432
16 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Chas was robbed ….

Complete BS! They don’t put Ohtani’s 4.75 ERA in July up there. Chas had a better month.Chas: .351/.440/.688, 1.128 OPS, 207 wRC+, 1.6 fWAROhtani: .282/.447/.705/, 1.152 OPS, 192 wRC+, 1.3 fWAR https://t.co/184H07k9Sl

 

Chas has also been more productive in the month of October. 

#17433
2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Who fucking cares?  He catches better pitchers and his cERA is half a run higher. They are wrong. It means nothing. 

trust means everything between pitcher and catcher. how do you quantify that?

I think the coaches/development staff/FO analysts/pitching staff know what they're doing. Y'all need to stop sniffing your own farts. 

Singleton is mashing in AAA. Listen to that sound. At what point do you bring him up? And who for?

 

#17434
9 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

trust means everything between pitcher and catcher. how do you quantify that?

I think the coaches/development staff/FO analysts/pitching staff know what they're doing. Y'all need to stop sniffing your own farts. 

Facts are stubborn things. The staff allows more runs when Maldonado is catching. Now you can try to find reasons that explain that but you won't have much luck considering that Maldonado catches the better pitchers more often.

#17435
2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Facts are stubborn things. The staff allows more runs when Maldonado is catching. Now you can try to find reasons that explain that but you won't have much luck considering that Maldonado catches the better pitchers more often.

It's also a fact that the organization is very analytics-driven and has excelled at player development, so I'm of the opinion they have data and inside info about Maldonado/Diaz we don't. I think Diaz should be catching more but I am also confident that will be that case as he develops his defensive skills and builds rapport with the entire pitching staff and works on the intangibles that make Machete respected in the clubhouse. 

 

#17436
26 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

trust means everything between pitcher and catcher. how do you quantify that?

I think the coaches/development staff/FO analysts/pitching staff know what they're doing. Y'all need to stop sniffing your own farts. 

Singleton is mashing in AAA. Listen to that sound. At what point do you bring him up? And who for?

 

How do you quantify it?   By the way we measure success in baseball dude- runs scored and runs allowed. 
the best Gm’s in the history of the game are a lawyer, quant, and management consultant. The other call is go ahead and put Jeff Bagwell in charge because he’s a great player- he knows shit. 
it’s math man, it isn’t hard. 

#17437
5 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

It's also a fact that the organization is very analytics-driven and has excelled at player development, so I'm of the opinion they have data and inside info about Maldonado/Diaz we don't. I think Diaz should be catching more but I am also confident that will be that case as he develops his defensive skills and builds rapport with the entire pitching staff and works on the intangibles that make Machete respected in the clubhouse. 

 

Go read Dusty’s quote about how Diaz and maldy are basically the same player. And then ducking wash your eyes out with bleach trying to understand how someone can be so dumb. It’s hocus locus and superstition. What @Huckleberrysaid. 

#17438
2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

How do you quantify it?   By the way we measure success in baseball dude- runs scored and runs allowed. 
the best Gm’s in the history of the game are a lawyer, quant, and management consultant. The other call is go ahead and put Jeff Bagwell in charge because he’s a great player- he knows shit. 
it’s math man, it isn’t hard. 


but did you look at the back of his baseball card ?

#17440
2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

how do you quantify it?   By the way we measure success in baseball dude- runs scored and runs allowed.

correlation is not causation. 

How many WS rings does Yainer have? CHECK MATE.

But in all seriousness, I'm not wholly disagreeing because I want Yainer catching more not less, but he's not very good situationally with the bat and he is terrible against LHP. He needs to get better at working counts and not being such a free-swinger. His power is awesome and his exit velos are impressive so he will hit consistently. Machete is just terrible all around with the bat but he should always start against LHP over Diaz. 

The belief that you know better than the pitchers who throw to these guys or the coaches/player development/analytics nerds who have built this baseball dynasty is evidence of you sniffing your own farts. 

#17441

Maldy hype machine working today ….

“He’s one of the hardest-working guys on this team ... he’s essentially our quarterback,” closer Ryan Pressly said. https://t.co/TjYpLgAdSi @astros

 

#17442

The last two pages have taught me:

1) Maldy catches Framber and JV + Diaz catches the other four + make sure opponent SP is a lefty on Framchise and JV days.

2) ???

3 Profit 

Edited by UTexasFight

#17443
7 hours ago, Gourmand said:

correlation is not causation. 

How many WS rings does Yainer have? CHECK MATE.

But in all seriousness, I'm not wholly disagreeing because I want Yainer catching more not less, but he's not very good situationally with the bat and he is terrible against LHP. He needs to get better at working counts and not being such a free-swinger. His power is awesome and his exit velos are impressive so he will hit consistently. Machete is just terrible all around with the bat but he should always start against LHP over Diaz. 

The belief that you know better than the pitchers who throw to these guys or the coaches/player development/analytics nerds who have built this baseball dynasty is evidence of you sniffing your own farts. 

Remember when yanier was “terrible” early in the year and I (and some others) kept saying go look at his expected stats (same with Bregman and Tucker) he’s been unlucky and it’s small sample size bullshit?  And then his real stay caught up to his expected stats more or less because that’s how baseball works and everyone was like- oh- he’s our best hitter we’ve ever had as a catcher?  Yeah- the stuff against LHP is almost surely the same as is the clutch stat stuff. It’s all small sample size bullshit. As is his hitting 1000 ops as a catcher on the positive side in almost side, but it sure would be nice to find out. 
All that’s stuff is bat related. He’s also just flat better defensively than maldonado in every conceivable way and every category, and I strongly suspect every day you see maldonado is the best day of the rest of his career more or less. Bringing him back again next year would literally be the dumbest thing I can imagine the Astros doing.  Diaz needs to play every day regardless of if it’s a LHP or there’s some situation going on where his small sample size numbers say there is problems.  Every day, of course as you know at catcher means 120 games. He should probably catch 120, DH 25 and just sit for 20. 

#17444

I really really want Maldonado to be re-signed, and for as many of you as possible to be standing near Wulaw when it happens.  

#17445
11 minutes ago, AugieBall said:

I really really want Maldonado to be re-signed, and for as many of you as possible to be standing near Wulaw when it happens.  

That will be almost as funny as if we lose the division by 1 game while maldonado is worth -1 win and yainer would have been worth 4 wins if he played every day. Because, if the season ended today playing time would literally be the difference between Astros in 1st and getting the bye or Astros packing their bags and headed to a 3 game series at Tampa. 

#17447

So pitchers like Maldonado.   That's fine, but hitting is kind of important.  Last time I checked,  he was hitting .166

#17448
9 minutes ago, Focht Up said:

So pitchers like Maldonado.   That's fine, but hitting is kind of important.  Last time I checked,  he was hitting .166

So is run production.

#17450

I just want to see him get some play.  He can't fucking do worse than what Julks has done at DH.  

Hell he may be a disaster and suck ass

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