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#3301

So the boxes were at Penn, then chinatown, now at University of Delaware?  Is he just marking spots on a map with a sharpie?  Oh shit, he literally is doing that.  Best to re-elect him and give him the nuclear football.  

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#3302
1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, it's nice to see @blacklab is approximately as fascist as we expected, given the quick trigger on @Beau Vine's DT thread.

Jesus Christ, this place.  Fuck Tha Police.

A pivotal moment of American history isn't newsworthy? Like wtf? Pathetic.

#3304
16 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Interesting angle: (I think unlikely since we’re in uncharted territory)

Now, it may be detention via home confinement, rather than a jail cell.But there is a good chance that there will be some form of detention, if usual practices with espionage defendants are followed here.

 

I have no reason to believe this will happen, but wouldn't it be something if he is granted home confinement by the judge and then immediately rearrested and flown to DC to indicted for Jan 6, then remanded?  Now that would be a good day.  

#3306
2 minutes ago, safe sex said:

A pivotal moment of American history isn't newsworthy? Like wtf? Pathetic.

A President of the United States of America has been indicted for espionage.  That thing where you sell out your country for personal gain which causes imminent physical h arm to the people you are sworn to protect.  That is not news woman, Okay!  There is nothing happening here!  It's just some misplaced financial papers!  

#3307

Espionage sounds serious.  How serious is that?  Someone explain that to me before Twicehorn comes in and says it's not that bad (j/k Twice). 

#3309
1 minute ago, miguelito said:

Espionage sounds serious.  How serious is that?  Someone explain that to me before Twicehorn comes in and says it's not that bad (j/k Twice). 

rocky and bullwinkle s3 GIF

#3310
1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

A President of the United States of America has been indicted for espionage.  That thing where you sell out your country for personal gain which causes imminent physical h arm to the people you are sworn to protect.  That is not news woman, Okay!  There is nothing happening here!  It's just some misplaced financial papers!  

When espionage is charged, isn’t the target normally taken into custody and jailed?

#3311
Weaponized DOJ is now indicting Pres. Trump for non crimes and for things every President does just as the same DOJ condemned me to prison for 14 years for things every politician does. Selective prosecution for me and now for President Trump. What’s happening to America?

Hair guy makes noise.

#3313
9 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

not giving him credit for Jack Smith's W

Well, Garland was never ever going to investigate/prosecute the cases himself.

He was stuck with the US Attorney for the District of Columbia, augmented by whatever other jurisdictions or Main Justice players wanted to get involved.

Garland appointed Jack Smith.  He didn't appoint any of the other DOJ employees.

To the extent any Attorney General can take credit for any federal prosecution, Garland can take credit for this.

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#3314
Espionage sounds serious.  How serious is that?  Someone explain that to me before Twicehorn comes in and says it's not that bad (j/k Twice). 

Not espionage. The Espionage Act is where the classification laws are established, but that’s the extent of the connection
#3315
4 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:
Weaponized DOJ is now indicting Pres. Trump for non crimes and for things every President does just as the same DOJ condemned me to prison for 14 years for things every politician does. Selective prosecution for me and now for President Trump. What’s happening to America?

Hair guy makes noise.

Two hairball sacks of shit.  Criminals.

#3317
2 minutes ago, Lurch said:


Not espionage. The Espionage Act is where the classification laws are established, but that’s the extent of the connection

That is correct.  It is espionage-y, though.  A pretty fair number of spies have violated 18 USC 793.  A pretty fair number of non-spies have also.

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#3320
4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

When espionage is charged, isn’t the target normally taken into custody and jailed?

He will not be taken into confinement.  The idea, as we've discussed, is to draw him into a series of court appearances and depositions for the four cases against him.  That, combined with the debate, fundraising, and primary rigor.  The overall calendar for an obese 78 year old.  He will die in the Summer or Autumn of 2024 from it all.  That's the play.  You are going to watch, in real time, the former President of the United States/current GOP nominee for POTUS die.  You'll tell your children about it.  And we will celebrate like the we invented sunshine.  The exhaustion of all of this, even for his self-absorbed ass, will prove too much.  We get to watch him literally drop dead.  This is going to be more beautiful than you can possibly fathom.  

#3323
5 minutes ago, texas08 said:

Fox News is hilarious right now lol

I’m afraid I must take your word for it

#3324
8 minutes ago, Lurch said:


Not espionage. The Espionage Act is where the classification laws are established, but that’s the extent of the connection

It's espionage to me!

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#3325

Former President charged with espionage is not something I ever expected to see in my lifetime.  The future of this country will be determined by 12 random people in Florida.

#3326

So is the espionage charge confirmed/official?  Because that sounds potentially serious.  If true, it would seem like the best case scenario for Trump is Watergate.  Worst case… the Rosenberg’s?

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#3327
1 hour ago, GenXer said:

Do me a favor and don’t pay your power bill. I wanna see what else your wizardry conjures up.

Did your breaker box trip? OU women just won the WCWS.

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#3328
From The Guardian: "The indictment...means the country must grapple with the unprecedented situation of a twice-impeached, twice-charged former president running for re-election."I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm grappling pretty fucking well tonight.

 

#3329
51 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Interesting angle: (I think unlikely since we’re in uncharted territory)

Now, it may be detention via home confinement, rather than a jail cell.But there is a good chance that there will be some form of detention, if usual practices with espionage defendants are followed here.

 

I’m sure Trump will display the same decorum and humility as you’d expect from anyone being detained under such serious charges.

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#3330
22 minutes ago, Satchel said:

When espionage is charged, isn’t the target normally taken into custody and jailed?

Hung.

#3331
39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Interesting angle: (I think unlikely since we’re in uncharted territory)

Now, it may be detention via home confinement, rather than a jail cell.But there is a good chance that there will be some form of detention, if usual practices with espionage defendants are followed here.

 

If there were real espionage crimes charged here, that is, working for another country against our interests like Hanssen or Ames, then those defendants are always flight risks.  So, yeah, real "espionage" defendants get pretrial detention.  Trump won't.

#3333
Just now, TwiceHorn said:

If there were real espionage crimes charged here, that is, working for another country against our interests like Hanssen or Ames, then those defendants are always flight risks.  So, yeah, real "espionage" defendants get pretrial detention.  Trump won't.

Why the real "espionage" distinction?  If trump's isn't "real", why are they charging him?

#3334

Although it should be viewed as an excuse for his profligate criminality, Donald Trump is emotionally and mentally unwell.

#3335
1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

If there were real espionage crimes charged here, that is, working for another country against our interests like Hanssen or Ames, then those defendants are always flight risks.  So, yeah, real "espionage" defendants get pretrial detention.  Trump won't.

But selling secrets to Saudis totally doesn't count as espionage because.....?

#3336
If there were real espionage crimes charged here, that is, working for another country against our interests like Hanssen or Ames, then those defendants are always flight risks.  So, yeah, real "espionage" defendants get pretrial detention.  Trump won't.

And here’s the thing…if he actually reaches a point where he really thinks he might go to prison…he will absolutely flee the country.
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#3337
9 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Former President charged with espionage is not something I ever expected to see in my lifetime.  The future of this country will be determined by 12 random people in Florida.

I hope their chads aren’t still hanging.

#3338

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“I commit to pardon Trump promptly on January 20, 2025 and to restore the rule of law in our country,” Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said on Twitter. https://t.co/mE4ioIBkj7

 

#3339
5 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

I’m sure Trump will display the same contrition and self control as you’d expect from anyone being detained under such serious charges.

He’s learned his lesson this time.

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#3340

So if he gets home confinement or is monitored, that means he has to wear a bracelet/collar? Like a dog?

#3342
8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

If there were real espionage crimes charged here, that is, working for another country against our interests like Hanssen or Ames, then those defendants are always flight risks.  So, yeah, real "espionage" defendants get pretrial detention.  Trump won't.

He’s a flight reward, not risk.

 

Step 1: Trump flees to some foreign country willing to accept his pathetic, malignant ass

Strp 2: Trump hype machine gens up and lures the rubiest rubes to said foreign paradise 

Step 3: Profit

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#3343

Just to clarify, one of the crimes with which Trump is presumably charged is 18 USC 793, dealing with misuse of information relating to the national defense.  The crime is called Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.

It is in Chapter 37 of TItle 18 of the United States Code, which is entitled Espionage and Censorship.  Title 18, of course, is entitled Crimes and Criminal Procedure.

The statutes of the United States were not "codified," or arranged by subject matter, title and section until beginning in 1926.

Before that, 18 USC 793 was part of the Espionage Act of 1917, most of which was ruled unconstitutional as abridging First Amendment rights to protest and comment.  This one survived, although it was heavily amended in 1946.

So, there really isn't an "Espionage Act" anymore, but there was 100 years ago when this was enacted.

 

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#3344
5 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Although it should be viewed as an excuse for his profligate criminality, Donald Trump is emotionally and mentally unwell.

So he’s gonna plead insanity? I’d buy that defense.

#3346
4 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

He’s a flight reward, not risk.

 

Step 1: Trump flees to some foreign country willing to accept his pathetic, malignant ass

Strp 2: Trump hype machine gens up and lures the rubiest rubes to said foreign land

Step 3: Profit

I sure as fuck wouldn't extradite his ass.

Y'all can fuckin have him.  Hell, keep him.  Don't let him come back here.

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#3347
I liked the rescue boat arriving on camera just in the nick of time.  Well, Mediterranean time. 
They quickly threw some black pepper and cilantro in the water.    Sea salt was already there. 
#3348
5 minutes ago, GenXer said:

So he’s gonna plead insanity? I’d buy that defense.

Meant to write “should not be viewed as an excuse.” My bad.

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