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GB beat me to it. 

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9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not thrilled about all these traitors getting sweetheart deals.  Like, is there a huge lack of evidence here where you might need a bunch of cooperating witnesses?  Me thinks not

It depends on how valuable their testimony is and from what I understand this is how RICO trials work. 

someone last night on the twitters or something predicted that Jenna would be the next to flip.

wonder who is next?

41 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not thrilled about all these traitors getting sweetheart deals.  Like, is there a huge lack of evidence here where you might need a bunch of cooperating witnesses?  Me thinks not

I kind of tend to agree.  We knew from the outset, pretty much, that a RICO case of this type is designed to secure pleas from lower-level offenders.

Do we know if Ellis' plea is to a felony or not?  As discussed extensively, that should jeopardize their law licenses, as should a misdemeanor involving fraud or deceit.

ETA:  So, the underlying offense in Georgia appears to be a felony as it is punishable by 1-5 years in prison (felonies are usually >1 year).  It's a little bit unclear whether aiding and abetting liability drops it to a misdemeanor.

However, the peanut gallery will be glad to know that most misdemeanors involving falsity, fraud, deceit, or theft also subject lawyers to disbarment or suspension in most jurisdictions.  So Jenna's erstwhile career as failed traffic prosecutor seems to be over.

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So, Trump filed five more motions to dismiss the indictment in DC.  See them here. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/

I think they're all pretty weak, some laughable even.  But a big flurry of activity that was somewhat expected.

One of the most astonishing arguments they've made is that his acquittal in the Senate on the two impeachments is double jeopardy for these criminal charges.

So, Trump filed five more motions to dismiss the indictment in DC.  See them here. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/
I think they're all pretty weak, some laughable even.  But a big flurry of activity that was somewhat expected.
One of the most astonishing arguments they've made is that his acquittal in the Senate on the two impeachments is double jeopardy for these criminal charges.

Perhaps the shooting down of all these cockamamie arguments is a small bit of shine on this whole turd. At least there will be a few more bright lines laid out for when the inevitable next pos tries this stuff.

 

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39 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Jenna cops a plea
 

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I’m not thrilled about all these traitors getting sweetheart deals.  Like, is there a huge lack of evidence here where you might need a bunch of cooperating witnesses?  Me thinks not

Getting all aspects of truthful accounts about what happened behind the scenes has quite a bit of value for the country IMO. I know the cult members won’t hear it, or care if they do, but the historical record on this whole circus will need to be studied and understood for generations to come and these pleas will be pretty solid content for that.
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I almost feel sorry for her.

Well, not almost.  Actually, not at all.  Honestly, I'm laughing my ass off.

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

At least there will be a few more bright lines laid out for when the inevitable next pos tries this stuff.

Oh, there's some lines being laid out

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25 minutes ago, The Dog said:

It depends on how valuable their testimony is and from what I understand this is how RICO trials work. 

someone last night on the twitters or something predicted that Jenna would be the next to flip.

wonder who is next?

My guess would be Misty Hampton and Cathy Latham, the remainders of the Coffee County portion of this.  Of those charged, only 4 were directly related to that, which included those 2, Hall and Powell, the latter two have already plead guilty; which to me means Latham and Hampton are cooked.  So unless they are absolutely insane (which we can't discount as a possibility), it would only make sense that they get while the getting is good.  

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I almost feel sorry for her.

Well, not almost.  Actually, not at all.  Honestly, I'm laughing my ass off.

I hope her plea includes admission that Rudy farted and gave her Covid. 

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41 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not thrilled about all these traitors getting sweetheart deals.  Like, is there a huge lack of evidence here where you might need a bunch of cooperating witnesses?  Me thinks not

 

40 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

If (big if) it leads to that orange piece of shit in prison, I don't care.  Make a deal w/ whomever it takes to burn that stupid cunt to the ground. 

I guess I still have PTSD from the trump era, but I just cannot help but feel like Charlie Brown running up to a football held by Lucy.

 

I'll fucking believe that trump will face consequences when it happens.

49 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Jenna cops a plea
 

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2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

My guess would be Misty Hampton and Cathy Latham, the remainders of the Coffee County portion of this.  Of those charged, only 4 were directly related to that, which included those 2, Hall and Powell, the latter two have already plead guilty; which to me means Latham and Hampton are cooked.  So unless they are absolutely insane (which we can't discount as a possibility), it would only make sense that they get while the getting is good.  

Misty Hampton needs jail time. IIRC she was the one responsible for protecting the machines and instead invited in the wolves. 

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I guess I still have PTSD from the trump era, but I just cannot help but feel like Charlie Brown running up to a football held by Lucy.

I'll fucking believe that trump will face consequences when it happens.

Take solace in the fact that he's gotta be shitting bricks as he wonders what they are telling the various officials.

And Jenna...I hope she has good security, as some MAGA type will probably be adding her to his list.

 

1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

Misty Hampton needs jail time. IIRC she was the one responsible for protecting the machines and instead invited in the wolves. 

No disagreement, if I had my way the last thing they'd all see was the gallows.  

At this point, Rudy is going to see a jail cell.  He has nothing to offer, no money to defend himself, etc.

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

One of the most astonishing arguments they've made is that his acquittal in the Senate on the two impeachments is double jeopardy for these criminal charges.

I generally don't know shit about fuck when it comes to lawyering, but even I know that the impeachments were not criminal trials.

15 hours ago, Rimbo said:

what the fuck is that weird love child between Baron Harkkonen and Teller next to Trump?

This is a creepily accurate description. I'm not sure what this says about you as a person, but i think we should all feel uneasy about it. 

9 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

Thanks. I thought this was great. As much as I appreciate the legal analysis provided by lawyers here in the CR, it is nice to hear a more plain language overview. 

It's also kind of funny that he's speaking from Texas and you hear sporadic gunfire in the background.

Yesterday, I had to tune into a Worker Safety webinar. First question was, "Should you report a person in the workplace who has a holstered gun?" Yee haw!

First question from audience a little later, "What if you're driving to an appointment, and you see a man pointing a rifle at another car? One of our people saw this then the man pointed the rifle at her car. Is that something we report to workplace safety?"

I joined the women with a WTF? look. What in the fucking world is going on?

So Jenna's counsel, or at least the law firm administering her legal fund solicitation, regularly represents car dealerships in white collar crimes.  The only thing more bizarre than the background of Trump's legal team members are the people those people have to hire to get them outta the shitshow they all started.  
 

In a thousand years, you couldn't have scripted any of this shit no matter how hard you tried.  

Jenna ran her mouth and now many have kept receipts:

 

38 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, Trump filed five more motions to dismiss the indictment in DC.  See them here. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/

I think they're all pretty weak, some laughable even.  But a big flurry of activity that was somewhat expected.

One of the most astonishing arguments they've made is that his acquittal in the Senate on the two impeachments is double jeopardy for these criminal charges.

That sounds like the Donald's doing. He knows more about law than all the lawyers. He can't believe the morons working for him didn't think of it themselves. Hell, they even resisted it! Does Dotard have to do everything himself?

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Remember when everyone was all freaked out about having 19 people tried at the same time?

Trump, "See, she said 'I would have declined to represent Donald Trump'...so that means she was never my lawyer!  Told you!"  

Jesus, ever since he beta-tested that "I can declassify the documents by thinking it with my mind" and tens of millions of people replied, "Yeah, that makes sense."....he's doing it retroactively with all kinds of shit.  That's why he doesn't pay them, he thinks that means there's no paper trail connecting him to these attorneys.  Thousands of people, every single day in this country, are represented by attorneys to whom they've never given a single dollar.  

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34 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

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11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Nice set of immediate responses:

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34 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

At this point, Rudy is going to see a jail cell.  He has nothing to offer, no money to defend himself, etc.

 

If this was on a betting site, I see that Rudy would be that top of the list to spend time in prison. After all, he testified for 7 hours to a GA state senate hearing and all of these guilty pleas are indicating that they knew they were lying.  I would love to see Clark and Eastman spend time behind bars as well. Clark was a DOJ lawyer who was simultaneously trying to overthrow the govt.  In the first half of the US, he would be facing a rope.

I still don't think Trump will see jail time for GA. The case that will put him in jail is the classified documents where he willfully kept them and lied to the govt. The clock is ticking on that the case needs to take place before the election.  And most likely we need time for a second trial after Trump creates a mistrial with his tweets and speeches.

I gentle reminder that Chesbro can corroborate charges 9, 11, 13, 15,  17 and 19 in Georgia.  Those charges all involve Rudy and the orange shitstain 

Charges 32 and 37 are what Latham and Hampton are charged with, and both Hall and Powell have pled guilty to those two charges - so Latham and Misty are toast and can give little that is not already known. Misty might be lucky and have some info about other higher-ups who spoke with her about the voting machine forensic scheme, but that is her only chit now that Hall and Powell have pled guilty and can describe everything that happened in Coffee county.     

Must be a bit worrisome if you one of many indicted in a criminal case and you start to see all of your co-defendants, who happen to be lawyers, plead guilty.

oh well

39 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

That sounds like the Donald's doing. He knows more about law than all the lawyers. He can't believe the morons working for him didn't think of it themselves. Hell, they even resisted it! Does Dotard have to do everything himself?

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Must be a bit worrisome if you one of many indicted in a criminal case and you start to see all of your co-defendants, who happen to be lawyers, plead guilty.

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26 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Nice set of immediate responses:

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/csb Sabato was my Government professor at UVA.

I guess I still have PTSD from the trump era, but I just cannot help but feel like Charlie Brown running up to a football held by Lucy.
 
I'll fucking believe that trump will face consequences when it happens.
So you are utterly naive to the fact that the football is going to get yanked? Chuck was blissfully trusting.
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31 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

 

May she receive the same kind of harrassment as Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

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From the NYT

And Wandrea Moss and her mother, Ruby Freeman, two Black women who served as election workers during the pandemic in Georgia, suffered an onslaught of racist abuse and were driven into hiding after Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Donald J. Trump’s lawyer, lied that they had rigged the election against Mr. Trump.

“I’ve lost my name and I’ve lost my reputation,” Ms. Freeman said, adding as her voice rose with emotion, “Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States target you?”

Election official after election official testified to the House Jan. 6 committee on Tuesday in searing, emotional detail how Mr. Trump and his aides unleashed violent threats and vengeance on them for refusing to cave to his pressure to overturn the election in his favor.

The testimony showed how Mr. Trump and his aides encouraged his followers to target election officials in key states — even going so far as to post their personal cellphone numbers on Mr. Trump’s social media channels, which the committee cited as a particularly brutal effort by the president to cling to power.

Fuck. These. Guys.

Sometimes the gallows seems too good for some people. One thinks of the fate of some baby seals.

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Trump has so many cases going on he should treat them like he's at a multiplex and switch theaters(courtrooms) when the movie he paid(ha!) to watch is over with. 

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

 

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I read all of these teary, remorseful confessions (by people who should have known better) and I'm reminded of that great line by Ray Wylie Hubbard ... some get spiritual 'cause they see the light, some 'cause they feel the heat.

I just hope those that have to do community service are made to work in places I know they will despise.  I'm thinking the Hosea Williams Food Bank, where they will be forced to help homeless people, or helping to clean up public housing grounds, or anything that makes them have to face the difficult reality many people face; the people they tried to screw.  In a worst case, picking up trash on the side of 285 in the middle of July.  

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