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12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I know I didn't just read him use the word "proof". 

It’s irrefutable. Case closed.

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Doubt he penned that one since "Stolen" is spelled correctly. His scribe, however, did a B+ job in capturing his superfluous capitalizations.

So a man that never swore to uphold the constitution, claims it Was his duty to look into alleged election fraud ?

Eh, he's not the authority.

-- lawdogs, probably

3 hours ago, GenXer said:

It’s irrefutable. Case closed.

It’s also invisible. 

Dotard, pillow guy, Rudy, etc. have all been screaming for years now about all of this evidence they have. I wonder if any of their supporters have paused for a moment to think about why they have released exactly zero of it. Just too busy? Keep forgetting? 

I feel like if you played "got your thumb" with these people they would fall for it. Or literally anything. 

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Dotard, pillow guy, Rudy, etc. have all been screaming for years now about all of this evidence they have. I wonder if any of their supporters have paused for a moment to think about why they have released exactly zero of it. Just too busy? Keep forgetting? 

I feel like if you played "got your thumb" with these people they would fall for it. Or literally anything. 

They’re easy marks for grifting 

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Dotard, pillow guy, Rudy, etc. have all been screaming for years now about all of this evidence they have. I wonder if any of their supporters have paused for a moment to think about why they have released exactly zero of it. Just too busy? Keep forgetting? 

But they have produced the evidence. And that "voluminous and irrefutable" evidence produced more than 60 losses in court, a GOP-appointed audit that showed Biden won Arizona by a larger margin than originally tallied, a 787 million defamation settlement against Fox and a 140 million defamation verdict against Giuliani. 

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:


 

 

I have no idea what this means.

4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I have no idea what this means.

The 14th amendment ban on insurrectionists holding office specifically mentions the term “officer” in the verbiage. Trump law dogs say that the President is not an officer - he is something different, so you can’t kick me off the ballot.

Calling himself an “officer” to a different federal appellate court runs counter to his argument in the Colorado case. 

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Dotard, pillow guy, Rudy, etc. have all been screaming for years now about all of this evidence they have. I wonder if any of their supporters have paused for a moment to think about why they have released exactly zero of it. Just too busy? Keep forgetting? 

I feel like if you played "got your thumb" with these people they would fall for it. Or literally anything. 

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3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

Great but are we gonna see all this shit before the election?!

3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Great but are we gonna see all this shit before the election?!


judge cannon knows her assignment 

9 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

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What a childish joke. Expose what? His own made up lies which were fabricated in his tiny brain because he refused to accept that he lost? The only person trying to steal an election is him. What a spoiled child. That one single so called human has done more harm to our country. Hard to believe we are being conned by this idiot. 

24 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Great but are we gonna see all this shit before the election?!

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Yeah dude. I've been assured that all these pieces of shit are super duper close to "finding out."

Spin the wheel, who do you want to find out? Rudy? Alex? Donald? Flynn?  Even if you hit the "finding out" grand prize, what you're actually going to get is a pawn stars "best I can do" 

13 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

But they have produced the evidence. And that "voluminous and irrefutable" evidence produced more than 60 losses in court, a GOP-appointed audit that showed Biden won Arizona by a larger margin than originally tallied, a 787 million defamation settlement against Fox and a 140 million defamation verdict against Giuliani. 

And Giuliani still insists he has proof and got sued again. 

10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

And Giuliani still insists he has proof and got sued again. 

MAGA "proof" of a stolen election is a shotgun barrel Bugs Bunny spins around just before Elmer Fudd pulls the trigger. Not only does it fall comically short of its intentions, it provides evidence Trump tried to overturn an election. 

"Immunity for doing nothing wrong."  

Think about that, politics aside, for a hot second.  That changes every single foundation of our entire society from godly forgiveness, to our judicial system, to disciplining children. 

Being granted immunity for being perfect.  Think about the logic of that this Christmas Day.  Does that mean you're now perfectly imperfect?  You've done everything so wrong that it's now come full circle and is now completely right?  You're immune from everything because you've done nothing or you're immune from nothing because you can't do anything?  Take all of ontology and all the LSD in the world, and you'll still have fucking clue what the fuck is going on that half-tard's head.   

 

Lawdogs:  wtf is she alleging?  I mean, I get the words, but what is the counterargument?

Forget it Jim; it's Alinatown.

16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Lawdogs:  wtf is she alleging?  I mean, I get the words, but what is the counterargument?

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1 hour ago, Hard Times said:

I agree, he isn't going to win anything anyway. Democrats will make sure of that. 

What does this mean?

1 hour ago, Hard Times said:

Column: Newsom loves Trump? Not at all. But he made the right call on ballot access - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

Newsom says leave Doturd on the ballot. I agree, he isn't going to win anything anyway. Democrats will make sure of that. And that eliminates all the stupid excuses.

Eliminating all stupid excuses for a guy who claimed justification to violently overthrow a democratic election? Good luck with that. Trump didn’t become god king to angry douchebags without having the ability to turn every story into a tale of victimhood. 

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What Dems still fail to grasp is that we need to do much, much, much more than defeat Trump at the ballot box.  We need to destroy him.  Drive him to an early grave.  Destroy his entire family.  Wreck their lives.  Ruin them.  Drive them to suicide.  And all who enabled him and supported them?  Drive them out of politics.  Drive them back under the rocks whence they came.  Shame them, relentlessly, repeatedly, and totally.  Drive them from public life.

Sic semper fascist pieces of shit.

My grandfather shot them in the fucking face with an M-1 carbine -- they should be happy for more merciful treatment.

I love the reasoning that goes "ok, maybe this time if we yet again refuse to enforce the clear letter of the law against him, he'll actually accept an election loss." 

5 minutes ago, NAVY said:

Gallows for all.

It's what every single other country would do.  If we want to survive as a Republic, we should do the same.

They opted out of the rule of law.  The only rule that should apply to them now is the universal law of FAFO.  They tried to murder my country.  They should hang.  But only after they weep, beg for mercy, and soil themselves, because that's what every one of those treasonous pathetic cowards would do.

19 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Lawdogs:  wtf is she alleging?  I mean, I get the words, but what is the counterargument?

Smith made a motion, I haven't seen it yet, akin to what we call a "motion in limine" or on the eve of trial.  The motion seeks a court order that Trump cannot raise issues at trial, before the jury, that are a) counterfactual and b) irrelevant to any conceivable defense to the charges against him. 

Among other topics Smith raised is that Trump should be forbidden from raising any issue that Jan. 6 was caused by the government or by "antifa."  Shit like that.

Found it.  It is, indeed, styled a "motion in limine," which usually occurs in the days or weeks before trial.  So this one is early. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/191/united-states-v-trump/

Other topics include calling the prosecution politically motivated, outside of his motion to dismiss the indictment on those grounds, which will fail.  Another is arguing the First Amendment, which is an issue of law for the court, not for the jury. 

ETA:  One sidenote.  The trial court litigation is stayed or suspended pending the appeal.  To some extent, that permits a limited amount of "litigation" to occur despite the stay.  How much, exactly, is up to the judge.  Smith is taking a risk here of annoying the judge with continued motion practice relating to the trial.

ETAA:  Here is Chutkan's order regarding the stay pending appeal.  She does not stay everything, but this motion in limine is not something of the type she specifically excluded from the stay, for example, the discovery protective orders, the gag order, and the jury screening procedures she had commenced.  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/186/united-states-v-trump/

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7 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Seems one of the key questions in these is does state law provide a mechanism for evaluating the qualifications of a candidate and "putting them on the ballot."  In Michigan, apparently not, Maine and Colorado, apparently so.  The insurrection part doesn't seem to be much of a hurdle.

To be fair to Trump’s attorneys, they have about 350 other cases they’re working on for him and there’s only 24 hours in a day 

24 minutes ago, tx ind said:

To be fair to Trump’s attorneys, they have about 350 other cases they’re working on for him and there’s only 24 hours in a day 

....and they're not getting paid.

Hey man, states rights. If they want to keep an insurrectionist off the ballot in their state, who am I to argue with them. 

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

 

For an official that is not a judge, or even a lawyer, for that matter, that is an extremely cogent opinion.  I'm sure she had ample help, but well done, Madam Secretary.

Not all smart people go to law school, bud.

When is SCOTUS going to overrule them? Or is this vacation time for them?

14 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

When is SCOTUS going to overrule them? Or is this vacation time for them?

Well, most rich folks make their donations right at year end.  So, Uncle Clarence has to wait until midnight on the 31st to see if his, ummm....."supporters" have met his fundraising goal.  Hitting F5 on his bank account page over and over.  If they hit the number, then you'll see some action taken posthaste.

14 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

When is SCOTUS going to overrule them? Or is this vacation time for them?

Patience. It takes time to craft reasoning with a veneer resembling the rule of law.

If multiple other states keep him off their ballots, I could 100% see Texas keeping Biden off ours. Which I would love to see. Would be some serious finding out. 

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