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37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

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9 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

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40 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

This isn’t complicated. 

You set up a website and say for every dollar donated you send one prayer 

Even better if you start it as a chain email. 

10 dollars for prayers for Donald Trump. Donate and send to 15 people or God will ignore your prayers for a week

Profit 

I got you, fam...

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By to be clear, the real money-maker would be "Donate to name a star after Donald Trump" like that star registry garbage.  

$1,000 name it after Donald

$500 name it after Ivanka, Don Jr, Barron or Melania

$100 name it after Eric or Lara

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14 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

As a union man, it was his duty go after what "holds the South's two halves together."

Glad history repeated itself and the good guys triumphed once again in the battle of VDicksburg.

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

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The South will not rise again.

6 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

The South will not rise again.

Not my South, that's for sure.  At least for her.

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

6 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

I'm gonna go out an limb and presume that the State of New York won't see things this way.  

8 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm assuming this move is worth a good 6 months of delay.  

 

Should be worth about 6 months in the slammer for egregious bullshit. 

 

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

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At least you spoilered it.

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2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

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Look your honor, what this ticket presupposes is maybe I was speeding.  But what my motion says is maybe YOU were speeding

wildcat.  Wildcat.  Wildcat.  I’m just gonna go right now.  

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When you live in the world of suits and counter suits, and are an idiot with a Wharton degree, you think if there are judgements then there must be counter judgements. He’s trying to play the only game he knows how. 

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Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

3 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I knew a guy in school that was going on a first date with a lady back in his home (small) town Alabama while on break.  He picked her up for the date and she was adorned in a confederate mini skirt.  He had planned on going to a nice dinner, etc.  Instead, he went to Blockbuster, rented Amistad and they watched that, after viewing he took her home.  According to him, she had no clue as to why things had gone that way.  

(I still think he hit it).  

There’s a song for everything 


 

3 hours ago, Macanudo said:

The South will not rise again.

 

More accurately . . . 

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1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

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1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

3 minutes ago, NAVY said:

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

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There is a little known codicil in the American constitution granting the former president and convicted felon Unlimited power in times of national crisis upon reelection.  It is time for someone to put their foot down and that foot is… Dammit, I had something for this

All I know is that when this is all said and done, and someone has to do an accounting of Dotard's remaining assets, I want to hear and see exactly this:

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All construction builds.  Incomplete. 

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

Excellent point.  Have the courts ever  explored the question of the “fingers crossed” or “double dog dare” defense?  I always thought these were childhood concepts but now I am starting to think these may be legitimate legal strategies.

You can’t triple stamp a double stamp; dumbass!

23 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Just barely.

Goddammit, every day, I am more and more furious with myself for not acting on a plan to rook these fucking mouthbreathing IDIOTS.  The money is just there for the taking.  For fuck's sake, I think it's immoral of me NOT to have done so.

 

its not too late, 9 months till election to grift these morons and win or lose  plenty of time after

58 minutes ago, NAVY said:

What about the double and later triple secret counter judgements after that? 

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Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

Nope. The trial court judge can just refuse to even have a hearing on the motion, if he chooses.
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4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

I was like wtf but now I understand the issue. 

There can be a difference between an opinion that explains the reasoning and a judgment that states the conclusion and operative terms of the judgment. Like the DC Circuit released the opinion and a judgment on immunity simultaneously as separate documents. 

Sometimes it can be hard to tell if an opinion IS the judgment or not.   The test is whether the document in question disposes of all the issues and all the parties.  This is an incredibly common controversy.  

One of the problems it causes is that you usually have 30 days from the date of the judgment, not the opinion, in which to appeal. So it can cause premature appeals or belated appeals.  Belated appeals are untimely and do not go forward. 

Engorons order left some issues open namely the precise terms of the supervision. So it is probably not a judgment.

Recognizing this, James' office filed a proposed judgment for Engoron to sign finishing everything off.  This is not uncommon, but usually the other party has the opportunity to object to the proposed judgment and propose their own. Maybe in NY practice that's called a counter judgment. In Texas and federal practice, that's a weird name. 

As scottsins points out sometimes the trial judge will give the winner the sole right to draft the judgment, at the risk of creating an an issue for appeal if they are too heavy handed.  But that is in accordance with what the judge orders and Engoron didn't order anything as far as we know James office just did this unilaterally apparently. 

The process does present something of an opportunity to negotiate, not with Engoron, but with James office over the precise terms of things like the supervision. 

The whole mess may add a few days to the time for appeal, depending on when Engoron signs a conclusive judgment. But that's more his fault for leaving matters unresolved in the opinion that we have seen than anything anyone else is doing. 

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I was like wtf but now I understand the issue. 

There can be a difference between an opinion that explains the reasoning and a judgment that states the conclusion and operative terms of the judgment. Like the DC Circuit released the opinion and a judgment on immunity simultaneously as separate documents. 

Sometimes it can be hard to tell if an opinion IS the judgment or not.   The test is whether the document in question disposes of all the issues and all the parties.  This is an incredibly common controversy.  

One of the problems it causes is that you usually have 30 days from the date of the judgment, not the opinion, in which to appeal. So it can cause premature appeals or belated appeals.  Belated appeals are untimely and do not go forward. 

Engorons order left some issues open namely the precise terms of the supervision. So it is probably not a judgment.

Recognizing this, James' office filed a proposed judgment for Engoron to sign finishing everything off.  This is not uncommon, but usually the other party has the opportunity to object to the proposed judgment and propose their own. Maybe in NY practice that's called a counter judgment. In Texas and federal practice, that's a weird name. 

The whole mess may add a few days to the time for appeal, depending on when Engoron signs a conclusive judgment. But that's more his fault for leaving matters unresolved in the opinion that we have seen than anything anyone else is doing. 

That makes sense.

To give a TLDR layperson summary: sometimes the court states the basics of how it is going to decide (an outline, if you will, saying "I intend to sign a judgment that does X, Y, and Z."  In this case, it's more than an outline, it's a full "opinion," but it still doesn't "order and decree" anything, which is what a judgment does).  The parties then submit competing proposed judgments to turn that outline into an actual formal, final judgment (which is a specialized legal document that usually has some very specific requirements).  The court then picks one of the judgments (or maybe even uses one as a baseline, and tweaks it some), and then signs it.  And it is THAT act -- signing a final judgment - that starts all of the appellate clocks running.  

5 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So apparently Trump wants to file a "counter judgment" with Engoron, and subsequently negotiate.  Next time I get a traffic ticket I'm just going to reply with my own counter ticket and negotiate with the court.  I bet that goes well for me.  

is this even a thing that exists

oh Twice got me, nevermind

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23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I was like wtf but now I understand the issue. 

There can be a difference between an opinion that explains the reasoning and a judgment that states the conclusion and operative terms of the judgment. Like the DC Circuit released the opinion and a judgment on immunity simultaneously as separate documents. 

Sometimes it can be hard to tell if an opinion IS the judgment or not.   The test is whether the document in question disposes of all the issues and all the parties.  This is an incredibly common controversy.  

One of the problems it causes is that you usually have 30 days from the date of the judgment, not the opinion, in which to appeal. So it can cause premature appeals or belated appeals.  Belated appeals are untimely and do not go forward. 

Engorons order left some issues open namely the precise terms of the supervision. So it is probably not a judgment.

Recognizing this, James' office filed a proposed judgment for Engoron to sign finishing everything off.  This is not uncommon, but usually the other party has the opportunity to object to the proposed judgment and propose their own. Maybe in NY practice that's called a counter judgment. In Texas and federal practice, that's a weird name. 

As scottsins points out sometimes the trial judge will give the winner the sole right to draft the judgment, at the risk of creating an an issue for appeal if they are too heavy handed.  But that is in accordance with what the judge orders and Engoron didn't order anything as far as we know James office just did this unilaterally apparently. 

The process does present something of an opportunity to negotiate, not with Engoron, but with James office over the precise terms of things like the supervision. 

The whole mess may add a few days to the time for appeal, depending on when Engoron signs a conclusive judgment. But that's more his fault for leaving matters unresolved in the opinion that we have seen than anything anyone else is doing. 

I had a feeling one of you could explain this, because at least on it's face it sounded completely absurd.  That said, apparently this was stated by Kise.  

7 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

This isn’t complicated. 

You set up a website and say for every dollar donated you send one prayer 

Even better if you start it as a chain email. 

10 dollars for prayers for Donald Trump. Donate and send to 15 people or God will ignore your prayers for a week

Profit 

I’m in, but you need a hell of an actor to pull it off. I couldn’t say that shit with a straight face much less convincingly. I know some people in show business, let’s get rich y’all!

Dumb and Dumber settled this years ago Dotard

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7 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I had a feeling one of you could explain this, because at least on it's face it sounded completely absurd.  That said, apparently this was stated by Kise.  

Yeah agreed it sounds absurd, but isn't really, subject to the ins and outs of NY practice. 

Kise is beclowning himself but is a serious enough lawyer to be taken seriously until shown otherwise. 

Beclowning oneself is the gold standard of doing something to show you shouldn't be taken seriously. 

42 minutes ago, brakeman said:

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Pssssh, that only a couple hundred pairs of shoes he needs to sell each day to cover that nut 

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Beclowning oneself is the gold standard of doing something to show you shouldn't be taken seriously. 

At least with Kise you can kind of understand it, he already got paid.  I don't think he's known for doing anything generally speaking clownish like the rest of them; he's known for being quite competent.  

8 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

At least with Kise you can kind of understand it, he already got paid.  I don't think he's known for doing anything generally speaking clownish like the rest of them; he's known for being quite competent.  

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If that doesn’t work, then Habba Dabba Doo will be forced to file a writ of replevin

3 hours ago, safe sex said:

Well, you see, the question of whether or not you can negotiate a counter judgment has never been asked in court before so we'll need to take a few months to figure it out

 

Gonna have to appeal this all the way to the Supreme Court. 

 

 

1 hour ago, scottsins said:


Nope. The trial court judge can just refuse to even have a hearing on the motion, if he chooses.

 

This also. But only after the above has been ruled on. 

 

 

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And then finally (lol "finally") appeal this. 

 

 

 

NY Supreme Court since it’s a state issue ?

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

NY Supreme Court since it’s a state issue ?

Yeah there's no way this goes to Washington. And NYS appeal to the top court (NY State Court of Appeals) is also discretionary, so unless they can come up with something more than they have in terms of a novel or important question of NY law, the forthcoming appeal (Supreme Court Appellate Division) is probably the end of the road. 

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah there's no way this goes to Washington. And NYS appeal to the top court (NY State Court of Appeals) is also discretionary, so unless they can come up with something more than they have in terms of a novel or important question of NY law, the forthcoming appeal (Supreme Court Appellate Division) is probably the end of the road. 

After the NY courts are done I'm certain that the Trump legal braintrust will conjure up some specious constitutional issue that they'll shit out onto SCOTUS' doorstep to try to at least get a stay. 

Sidebar: New York gets an F for how they've named and organized their court system. I'm convinced they had the intention of confusing non-residents. It appears they have no idea what "supreme" means, and having an intermediate "appellate division" a level below the "court of appeals" is regarded. 

 

1 hour ago, brakeman said:

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$87,502 cash, plus tip! 

"Sorry Carroll, don't have a dime on me."

Didn't ask for a dime.  cash.  

8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

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Maybe use a photo from before she started melting.

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