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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

I think the most fucked up part of this, by far, is that not only he, but other prominent elected officials, are repeating his lie that he wasn't allowed to testify in his own defense and that he wasn't allowed to call witnesses in his defense. Especially since a major news outlet is going with that lie and telling it to their viewers. It's by far the most egregious part of this and it's not even close.


 

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    Imagine your basis of hating Trump is because of mean tweets, January 6 and “hush money” trial all because liberal media is crooked. Fuck right off. This is my last post in this forum  dumb fucki

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Anyone who sleeps with pornographic actresses and then runs for president and pays them money to shut up and then fabricates expense records could have this happen to them! 

Well, Trump is trying to explain it on social media

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112535601905420886

My bookkeeper called a “Legal Expense,” on the “tiny” description line of the Ledger, a “Legal Expense,” openly paid to my lawyer, at that time a fully accredited one. I was not involved in that designation, but what else would you have called it? It was, in fact, a LEGAL EXPENSE. That is the so-called “CRIME.” On top of that, I wasn’t allowed by the judge to use, in any form, the standard RELIANCE ON COUNSEL DEFENSE (ADVICE OF COUNSEL!). My lawyer, at the time, did virtually everything on the NDA (NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT), and I assumed that what he did was correct. I did nothing wrong, and frankly, there was nothing done wrong - NDA’s are standard, commonly used, and LEGAL. MAGA2024! WITCH HUNT! IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


 

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Speaking of Venezuela.  

47 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

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Maybe his kids like sand. Did you think about that?

He probably thinks the Supreme Court is going to save him on these state charges 

7 hours ago, Rimbo said:

This has already happened. Moose out front should've told ya.

 

While this statement is true, what you're failing to understand in the context of Icono is that he is keenly aware of what the party has become, and it's still not even remotely close to how right wing he wants it to be. He wants the Christian Taliban, full stop. 

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IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.

Elon doesn’t really think things through does he?

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, Trump is trying to explain it on social media

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112535601905420886

My bookkeeper called a “Legal Expense,” on the “tiny” description line of the Ledger, a “Legal Expense,” openly paid to my lawyer, at that time a fully accredited one. I was not involved in that designation, but what else would you have called it? It was, in fact, a LEGAL EXPENSE. That is the so-called “CRIME.” On top of that, I wasn’t allowed by the judge to use, in any form, the standard RELIANCE ON COUNSEL DEFENSE (ADVICE OF COUNSEL!). My lawyer, at the time, did virtually everything on the NDA (NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT), and I assumed that what he did was correct. I did nothing wrong, and frankly, there was nothing done wrong - NDA’s are standard, commonly used, and LEGAL. MAGA2024! WITCH HUNT! IF THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ME, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!

Yeah that's a misdemeanor if fraudulent which it wasn't. There is nothing wrong with paying your lawyer to get someone to shut the fuck up. 

It's that he did it specifically for the purposes of holding public office and using campaign funds to do it in a weird accounting way. 

What he did wasn't illegal. The way he did it and why he did it made it illegal. 

1 minute ago, immamac said:

What he did wasn't illegal. The way he did it and why he did it made it illegal. 

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.

2 minutes ago, RPM said:

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.

Even the campaign funds for payoff is murky. What makes it clear is that he did it with intent to defraud/conceal from the public with campaign funds. It's a nuance that's important because money is money and it flows weird in these big messy orgs. This was intentional 

3 minutes ago, RPM said:

It's never the actual act that gets you in trouble. It's the cover-up. Fucking a porn actress? Completely legal. Using campaign funds for a payoff? Not so much.


the cover up is always worst than the lie. being a cheap SoB really paid off here 😂

 

13 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Also, these were crimes committed before he was president, so why would presidential immunity be considered?  

He figured out the reimbursement and signed the checks after he was president, while in the Oval Office, but yeah, the main acts were in October 2016.

12 hours ago, UnivTex34 said:

What’s funny about Icono/ @Macklemore that he doesn’t understand, while he may not be the first to be deported under a Trump dictatorship, he will be second. Brown and having sucked cock for drugs, puts him in a class that actually may move him into the first category. He’s literally the poster boy for leopards eating faces party. It’s fucking hilarious.

Oh, where does that put Madison Cawthorne on the list?  Crippled, congressional cuck, sucks cock at coke fueled orgies

25 minutes ago, immamac said:

Florida let's you vote if the state of the felony allows those felons to vote. New York felons can vote. 

Yeah, I learned that sometime last night. What a country!

I think the most fucked up part of this, by far, is that not only he, but other prominent elected officials, are repeating his lie that he wasn't allowed to testify in his own defense and that he wasn't allowed to call witnesses in his defense. Especially since a major news outlet is going with that lie and telling it to their viewers. It's by far the most egregious part of this and it's not even close.

Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.

This is making the rounds

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6 minutes ago, immamac said:

Even the campaign funds for payoff is murky. What makes it clear is that he did it with intent to defraud/conceal from the public with campaign funds. It's a nuance that's important because money is money and it flows weird in these big messy orgs. This was intentional 

He had sex with a porn star in 2006 and had Michael Cohen use his own money to pay her a month before the 2016 election to kill the story. Trump’s business records were falsified by then making payments to Cohen under the guise of it being a legal expense. This is what made it a felony, because he did it with the intent of influencing the election a month before the election when he had sex with her a decade prior. 

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Meanwhile, if any Republicans wish to use his guilty verdict as a fundraising tool:

 

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/05/30/trump-hush-money-criminal-trial/trumps-warning-00160930

 

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Donald Trump’s campaign is sending a blunt message to down ballot Republicans who are looking to fundraise for themselves off of the ex-president’s conviction: Back off.

Trump’s political operation views the guilty verdict in the New York hush money trial as a small-dollar goldmine — so much so that they are warning other Republicans not to raise money off it and siphon off money that could otherwise go to the Trump campaign.

“Any Republican elected official, candidate or party committee siphoning money from President Trump’s donors are no better than Judge Merchan’s daughter,” said Trump co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita. “We’re keeping a list, we’ll be checking it twice and we aren’t in the spirit of Christmas.”

 

 

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Trump’s campaign has sent out a stream of fundraising appeals to prospective donors – one text message sent Thursday evening asked supporters to “Stand with” Trump “following this injustice” — with an eye toward filling its coffers. But they aren’t alone. Some candidates, such as Colorado Republican Dave Williams, have been looking to direct proceeds to themselves.

Williams, who is running for a congressional seat and has received Trump’s endorsement, sent out a fundraising message in which he derided the conviction as a “disgrace and mockery of the principles our nation was founded on.” The message included a red button asking donors to “STAND WITH TRUMP & DAVE.” But after clicking on it, contributors are sent to a landing page in which donations are solely sent to Williams. The Williams campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

 

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Trump advisers have repeatedly warned down-ballot Republicans from fundraising off the ex-president without their consent. Last year, the Trump campaign warned that the former president would not endorse candidates who used consulting firms that used Trump’s name, image, and likeness in their fundraising pitches. And last month, the Trump campaign sent a letter to Republican vendors asking for a 5 percent cut of any appeal that used Trump’s name, image, or likeness.

Some Republicans are sending out pitches whose proceeds will be directed wholly to Trump’s campaign or that will be split between them – something Trump advisers say they are fine with. Several prospective Trump vice presidential picks, such as South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance and New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, posted links on X directing supporters to a donation page where contributions are solely sent to the Trump operation.

 

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Trump’s campaign has aggressively fundraised off his legal battles, seeing them as a way to gin up grassroots contributions. Depending on how much Trump raises off the hush money trial verdict, it could help him close a nagging cash deficit he is facing against President Joe Biden. Through the end of April, Biden had $84 million in the bank, compared to Trump’s $49 million.

 

 

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.

I enjoy that he’s on social media this morning telling the world it’s completely okay to pay off a porn star to keep her from talking about their affair.  

Once upon a time such things were frowned upon.  Or even the hint of impropriety. 
 

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2 minutes ago, MrBig said:

He had sex with a porn star in 2006 and had Michael Cohen use his own money to pay her a month before the 2016 election to kill the story. Trump’s business records were falsified by then making payments to Cohen under the guise of it being a legal expense. This is what made it a felony, because he did it with the intent of influencing the election a month before the election when he had sex with her a decade prior. 

Yeah that's what makes this illegal. Not actually paying her to stfu and go away that's totally fine and what they are leaning on. They are conveniently omitting the fact that he did this with intent to influence the election. 

His lawyer may not have understood the charges based on his interviews. It's not that complicated but it is not straightforward either which leaves tons of room for the spin that's happening. 

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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:


Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.

The only witness that could have possibly helped the defense was Dotard himself.  Also, couldn't the defense have called witnesses to poke holes in the prosecution's case?  I think the only people they wanted to call were election experts.  Blanche is a moron and a schill.

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I've pretty much avoided watching politics on TV for the last 4-5 years. Watching Trump ramble and pathologically lie about everything right now. At this point, I'm not even angry with Trump. He is who he's always been. He's an absolute joke. 

Pretty much all my frustration is with the Republican party and their voters. When did they lose their pride? How can you morally attach yourself to a clown? 

11 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Any Republican elected official, candidate or party committee siphoning money from President Trump’s donors are no better than Judge Merchan’s daughter,” said Trump co-campaign manager Chris LaCivita. “We’re keeping a list, we’ll be checking it twice and we aren’t in the spirit of Christmas.”

Looooooooool

13 minutes ago, C-Man said:

This is making the rounds

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Nail him to a fucking cross!

12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, he's in a tough spot. Their defense was and had to be that the prosecution didn't meet its burden of proof.  There were no witnesses that could even attempt to relate a different set of facts, except Donald Trump himself.

But his client is bitching about uncalled witnesses.  So, wtf is he gonna say.

Well, if it were me, and my client was saying things that could be grounds for ineffective assistance of counsel, I’d probably say something like “we called all of the witnesses that the defense team, in agreement with our client, believed provided our strongest case. Anyone that wasn’t called had been determined by us to likely damage our defense and/or bolster the prosecutions case.”

4 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

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Rough night?

Low energy.

18 minutes ago, Red Five said:


Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.


seriously, Where did he find these guys ?

aggie law school ?

6 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

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Rough night?


hes so fucking blasted right there. hopefully my pillow guy is coming along to introduce him to crack 

42 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.

You only sleep with your wife?

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Just now, tx 3 putt said:

hopefully my pillow guy is coming along to introduce him to crack 

Who do you think taught Jr?

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11 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Junior repeatedly said that our country is now a crap hole because his dad was convicted. He said the Democrats finally won and we’re able to turn the country into a crap hole.

Should be an easy to have Biden say, “Unlike Donnie Trump, I don’t believe our country is a crap hole - I think we are the greatest country in the world with the best people.”

This never really got much recognition, but they’ve been saying this all along. What does “Make America Great AGAIN” mean other than “Right now, this country sucks.” If a Democrat ever had that as a slogan, they would’ve been immediately skewered by right wing media and would’ve ultimately lost support of the DNC. 

14 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Pretty much all my frustration is with the Republican party and their voters. When did they lose their pride? How can you morally attach yourself to a clown? 

When did they lose their pride?

Hint:

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45 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not me.  I've never cheated on my wife, much less with a porn star.  It's remarkably easy to avoid the need to dole out hush money.


male and animal porn stars count too 

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15 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

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Rough night?

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12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Nail him to a fucking cross!

Do you realize no nail or cross could hold up that fat fuck?  He’d have to be the first horizontal crucifiction….

15 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

We have a pond in the back...pool and a pond.  Pond would be good for you.

I love the natural spring waters.

Look you fucking libs !!!!!

nothing king Donald does even comes close to the obama scandals !!!!!! Fucking libs !!!

long live the trump Family and jfk jr !!!!

 

 

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Just now, David Dennison said:

He wasn't a perfect president because no one is, but man I miss that dude.

 

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Trump was already a broken man but this trial may have sent him over the edge. And he’s got a few more trials to go. 

 

"to this day I would have liked to testify"

Lol, if only there would have been an opportunity for his to testify.

I wonder what's happening in the universe where the mainstream media ignores Donald Trump at this point.

35 minutes ago, Red Five said:


Dotard’s attorney is going on tv and blaming the prosecution for not calling witnesses that would have helped the defense.

Laughable on its face for anyone with even the mildest sane perspective.

Acceptable on its face for those who've been conditioned to recognize any argument for their side as valid.

Shamelessness playing to an audience of buffoons is a nasty, dangerous combination. 

Here is a number to block, if you want...just received

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8 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Trump was already a broken man but this trial may have sent him over the edge. And he’s got a few more trials to go. 

 

I like that he made sure to not omit Russian as a normal, commonly spoken language.  

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