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26 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Maybe it just really speaks to the benefits of being a white male and/or a billionaire.

isn't andrew yang neither of those things?

i can't remember if asian-american counts as white or not.  where are we with that?

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Yang is a real anomaly but he’s also your typical edgy frat boy candidate. 

19 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

isn't andrew yang neither of those things?

i can't remember if asian-american counts as white or not.  where are we with that?

Meh he’s a millionaire 

Asians typically get lumped in with whites - definitely feels like it has to do with social-economic status and education 

10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yang is a real anomaly but he’s also your typical edgy frat boy candidate. 

Which fraternity is that? The Electrical Engineering one - HKN?

17 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Oh HELL yes here we go.

 

Seems like there’s an effort to have a Bernie vs Warren murder-suicide 

At this point there's no denying that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee. The House keeps delaying the articles of impeachment and this trial will probably last as long as the Clinton impeachment. It's a real possibility that Bernie and Warren will be in DC for the trial and miss the first 4 states. How much faith are those 2 willing to put into their street team? Will those efforts be enough to surpass Joe and whatever Bloomberg and Pete have ready for the campaign trail? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

This is CLEARLY the corporate Dem whore machine trying to take down the two most progressive candidates and the Warren crew cannot help but take every fucking piece of bait that goes into the water.

Warren's allies leaking this obvious bullshit non-story to CNN.

A Warren-embedded reporter interviewing Liz on camera about a dubiously-sourced document from a Slack channel with Liz responding that Bernie himself is telling people to "trash" her.

Jesus Christ, Warren needs to stop fucking playing into this shit. Her political instincts are just fucking abysmal.

Those Bernie Bros that Liz folks hate so much? Those are your strongest fucking allies. Those are the ones who WANT you to take on Wall Street. They're the ones who want you to get M4A and every other structural change you're calling for. The Bloomberg/Biden set will tell you to sit down and eat a pile of dogshit.

Bernie people are fundraising over this. People who have never volunteered before are signing up over this.

It's so god damned stupid. What a wasted campaign.

8 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

This is CLEARLY the corporate Dem whore machine trying to take down the two most progressive candidates and the Warren crew cannot help but take every fucking piece of bait that goes into the water.

Warren's allies leaking this obvious bullshit non-story to CNN.

A Warren-embedded reporter interviewing Liz on camera about a dubiously-sourced document from a Slack channel with Liz responding that Bernie himself is telling people to "trash" her.

Jesus Christ, Warren needs to stop fucking playing into this shit. Her political instincts are just fucking abysmal.

Those Bernie Bros that Liz folks hate so much? Those are your strongest fucking allies. Those are the ones who WANT you to take on Wall Street. They're the ones who want you to get M4A and every other structural change you're calling for. The Bloomberg/Biden set will tell you to sit down and eat a pile of dogshit.

Bernie people are fundraising over this. People who have never volunteered before are signing up over this.

It's so god damned stupid. What a wasted campaign.

Seems like you’re the one taking the bait.

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

isn't andrew yang neither of those things?

i can't remember if asian-american counts as white or not.  where are we with that?

I was under the impression that Yang is a billionaire.

 

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

isn't andrew yang neither of those things?

i can't remember if asian-american counts as white or not.  where are we with that?

Kinda of messed up, but the "model minorities" of Asian and South Asian/Indians who still face discrimination, aren't completely accepted as "real minorities/POC's". They are the bisexuals of the GLBT movement.

16 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I was under the impression that Yang is a billionaire.

He's not. He has less money than Sanders and Warren but it's the narrative that the media is putting out there for him.

17 minutes ago, AngryDragon said:

He's not. He has less money than Sanders and Warren but it's the narrative that the media is putting out there for him.

yeah, something i read said his net worth is close to $1mm.  i was surprised by this.

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

 the whore machine 

Leave South Austin’s mother out of this. 

52 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

yeah, something i read said his net worth is close to $1mm.  i was surprised by this.

Wait--he's a poor?

Then why the fuck am I even listening to anything this guy says?

I'm just here to watch the Bernie bros' sudden disdain for gotcha politics

This isn't even gotcha, it is lower than that. Gotcha journalism is about the target saying or doing something and then misrepresenting it.

There are no quotes or actions from Bernie here at all to even try to misrepresent.

17 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

This isn't even gotcha, it is lower than that. Gotcha journalism is about the target saying or doing something and then misrepresenting it.

There are no quotes or actions from Bernie here at all to even try to misrepresent.

Did Bernie not say to Warren that a woman can't win?

That's an honest question--I'm just figuring out what your take is.

No, of course he didn't. That's absurd.

- He denies it
- Warren doesn't claim it
- There are no actual quotes from the 2nd/3rd-hand sources
- It doesn't fit with his 40+ years of established philosophical and political views

I have no doubt that he said something about America's sexism being a massive hurdle and something Warren might not be able to clear. It's something basically everyone has said or thought. But the idea that he was just like, "Look, honey, no dames are ever gonna be in the White House, it's for the FELLAS!" is not something anyone who is operating on good faith believes.

Bernie with schoolchildren in 1987

This is just so fucking pathetic and pointless on the part of the Warren campaign. I don't know if she hired some Kamala staffers when Harris dropped out, but this is just such idiotic work on her campaign's part.

5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I have no doubt that he said something about America's sexism being a massive hurdle and something Warren might not be able to clear. It's something basically everyone has said or thought. But the idea that he was just like, "Look, honey, no dames are ever gonna be in the White House, it's for the FELLAS!" is not something anyone who is operating on good faith believes.

Aren't those two things a difference of tone and not of substance?

Here's an ongoing problem--candidates shouldn't act like pundits.  Every time they do--whether it be Romney's 47% comment or Hillary's "bag of deplorables" comment or this--it bites them in the ass.  Run your campaign.  Leave the punditry to pundits and campaign strategy to the strategists.

 

And yeah, for the record--this is a trap into which I see Joe Biden constantly falling.

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You really need to let this go. 

You should know by now that bt can't let anything go.  He's basically the Derka of politics.  

Why must everything these days feel like an episode of Real Housewives?

We now suffer through granular coverage of everything from sports to movies/tv to technology to this long-ass, trending towards farcical presidential horse race. In the end, the focus always drifts towards the train-wreck quality relationship that inevitably pops up.

We need to cut out the transitional period and just make "Ass" the number one movie and elect the most Dwayne Camacho fuck head we can find.

Just now, Longhornfan1024 said:

You should know by now that bt can't let anything go.  He's basically the Derka of politics.  

The whole thing isn’t much of a story and it’s not even that newsworthy.  

1 minute ago, softlynow said:

Why must everything these days feel like an episode of Real Housewives?

We now suffer through granular coverage of everything from sports to movies/tv to technology to this long-ass, trending towards farcical presidential horse race. In the end, the focus always drifts towards the train-wreck quality relationship that inevitably pops up.

We need to cut out the transitional period and just make "Ass" the number one movie and elect the most Dwayne Camacho fuck head we can find.

Ass wasn’t nominated for best picture because it was directed by a woman. 

Just now, Ghost of LL said:

Aren't those two things a difference of tone and not of substance?

Tone would be more like the feeling of the speaker when saying, "Women can't win in America". They could rueful about it, excited about it, demeaning about it, etc...

Now, the presentation by CNN is ALL about tone. Look at the way it's presented here and the women's reactions...

Also, not conspiracy theorizing, but...

11 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You really need to let this go. 

lulz, good luck man.

Hey, anything that helps Bernie get a message out that identify politics is not something the Dems should hang their hats on is good to me.

At the beginning of this campaign I wanted Bernie to go away so that Liz could get his votes, just to help clean up the field.

Now I just want Liz to go away.

 

42 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Tone would be more like the feeling of the speaker when saying, "Women can't win in America". They could rueful about it, excited about it, demeaning about it, etc...

Now, the presentation by CNN is ALL about tone. Look at the way it's presented here and the women's reactions...

Also, not conspiracy theorizing, but...

i think it has as much to do with cnn trying to gin up ratings for tomorrow's debate.

41 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

Now I just want Liz to go away.

Nevertheless...

24 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i think it has as much to do with cnn trying to gin up ratings for tomorrow's debate.

This is all it is and Warren's campaign had a couple of people dumb enough to help them.

Bernie's campaign sees through this bullshit.

Warren needs to get her camp back in line. Amateur hour over there.

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You can discuss the tit for tat between Warren and Sanders ad nauseam but it likely has no bearing on the few thousand moderates in the 3 states that will decide the election. 

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

This is all it is and Warren's campaign had a couple of people dumb enough to help them.

How do you know this?  Who from Warren’s campaign?  Why can’t it be someone that works for another campaign? 

It was a private meeting between Bernie and Liz and no one else was there.

Where did these others hear it from?

2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It was a private meeting between Bernie and Liz and no one else was there.

How do you know?  Were you there? I wouldn’t go into that meeting without a note taker or witness on either side.  It just seems like confirmation bias to make any assumptions with this story which is rather petty anyway.  

23 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Horseshit.
 

So your contention is that Liz is lying?

28 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Horseshit.
 

Is Warren really this dumb?

She described it as a private dinner that should stay private.

The idea that these two had stenographers with them is laughable.



After, of course, telling people about it so they could leak it later in a way that presented her as a wilting flower victim.

The only way this sticks to Bernie is if he fumbles it at tomorrow's debate.

The reality is that most/all of us have doubts about the ability of a woman to win. Most/all of us believe it's harder for them and that, all other things being equal, a woman is less likely than a man.

The categorical statement that it's actually impossible for a woman to win? No, that's silly. No one actually believes Bernie believes that. It's just not credible.

tantric is onto something here regarding identity politics. It's a dangerous weapon when handled by dishonest or clumsy people.
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