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  • Huckleberry
    Huckleberry

    No it doesn't, this is absurd selfishness on a grand scale. Nobody is getting punished. My wife and I paid off our student loans, and you know what I think about younger people or even those in our ge

  • henrygandorf
    henrygandorf

    i’ve really enjoyed the 900 posts from bt explaining how bernie people aren’t aggressive, obsessive, and very-online.  truly a learning experience. 

  • Bill Clinton
    Bill Clinton

    3rd or 4th thread but whos counting.  Name recognition and ability to collect money is most important to the Democratic Party. They aren't trying to win 2020, they are trying to rebuild and colle

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#16802
30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NH knocked out 3 people.  Awesome.

Can we also knock out Steyer, Biden and Gabbard now? 

Tulsi is probably trying to coordinate her campaign suspension with a Lou Dobbs interview. 

 

#16803
11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Tulsi is probably trying to coordinate her campaign suspension with a Lou Dobbs interview. 

 

You misspelled Tucker Carlson blowjob 

#16805
3 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Giving or receiving?

Tulsi's Big Dick 2020

#16806
4 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Let's remember that the Beto stan hate for Pete was WAAAAAAY before the back and forth about guns. 

Beto people were convinced that the media preferred Pete and that it doomed his campaign. The reality was Pete's strategy was to get on TV as much as possible, and Beto cowered away from doing media after the stupid Vanity Fair cover.  Beto's media strategy sucked, and when his numbers dipped they took their anger out on Pete. 

It's all very stupid. 

Beto's problem was Warren, which split the cultural appropriator vote.

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And now she's down to a 1/1024 chance of winning the nomination.

#16807

I'm hoping Bernie comes out wearing a bunch of fake medals so he can get the valor stealing vote.

(jk he's already got it)

#16813
45 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Warren is now listed below Hillary Clinton on Predictit.

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#16817

*celebrity tweets*

LOL IMAGINE GETTING OWNED BY A CELEBRITY WHOSE OPINION WE SHOULD TAKE SUPER SERIOUSLY, BUT ONLY IF THEY AGREE WITH ME

Image result for 30 rock jenna how will people know who to vote for gif

#16818
4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

God imagine getting owned by John Legend on labor and healthcare.

The entire premise of his argument is flawed.  The primary purpose of a union is to limit the employer's "freedom and choice" to fire employees without cause.

#16819

I don't think we should take John Legend seriously at all, which is why it's funny that he has a better understanding of it than Pete Buttigieg.

#16821
21 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I don't think we should take John Legend seriously at all, which is why it's funny that he has a better understanding of it than Pete Buttigieg.

You know except for the fact that Medicare would be available for that fired worker.

#16823
9 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Pete would beat trump’s ass in a debate.

Yeah--I'm really fucking worried that a rapist might make a crude homophobic joke if we elect Buttigieg.

Give me a motherfucking break.

#16824
1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

I like that Ryan Grim guy’s strategy, though.  “Bernie’s plans will never become actual law, so rest assured and vote Bernie.”  

instead of leopards eating people's faces it's the kittens drinking tea by the fire party

#16825
4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Pete is saying Medicare 4 All Who Want It, so the union person could still opt for the government plan anyway if that’s what they want.  So, what is the point of telling Pete Buttigieg that a union worker could lose his job, and how is that owning Pete?  Pete’s only point is that they still have the choice for the union benefits under his plan if they like those better, but there is no choice under Bernie’s plan.

I like that Ryan Grim guy’s strategy, though.  “Bernie’s plans will never become actual law, so rest assured and vote Bernie.”  

Are you not inspired by "big ideas with no chance of implementation!" 

#16826

LMAO this #Resistance grifter just bailed on Warren and is "endorsing" Bernie. 

He might have been the biggest Warren "supporter"/spammer on Twitter.  

 

#16827
6 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Pete is saying Medicare 4 All Who Want It, so the union person could still opt for the government plan anyway if that’s what they want. 

The idea that Pete's plan would "protect" private insurance plans is laughable. It would dramatically alter the private insurance market, and unless M4AWWI has legislation involved that literally requires private insurers to maintain existing plans at existing rates frozen in time, there is no protection for those plans.

John Legend doesn't really understand unions and Pete's sales job is a lie.

 

#16828
6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

LMAO this #Resistance grifter just bailed on Warren and is "endorsing" Bernie. 

He might have been the biggest Warren "supporter"/spammer on Twitter.  

 

Did you just doxx Hugo? 

#16829
43 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Pete would beat trump’s ass in a debate.

He would never show and the Q's would site that there was worry that the gays can spread the corona virus by simply looking at you unless it over 100 degrees outside. 

#16831
Just now, shnsajax said:

He would never show and the Q's would site that there was worry that the gays can spread the corona virus by simply looking at you unless it over 100 degrees outside. 

Gays are more powerful when its over 100 degrees.  Tank tops and short shorts. 

#16832
Just now, Js1 said:

Gays are more powerful when its over 100 degrees.  Tank tops and short shorts. 

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#16833
3 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Yes, those union people have more freedom to choose under the policy that makes every choice except Medicare illegal.

M4A takes away their plan. M4AWWI also takes away their plan.

One side is honest. One side is lying.

#16834
12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Are you not inspired by "big ideas with no chance of implementation!" 

Grim has long been a Warren defender. He is defending Warren's pivot here. 

 

#16835
49 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

M4A takes away their plan. M4AWWI also takes away their plan.

One side is honest. One side is lying.

You are such a beating.  

#16838
7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Do you think M4AWWI would leave existing private health insurance plans intact?

So, the official position of the Democratic Party is to forcibly take away everyone's health plan, nationalize and entire industry, and force everyone into Medicare, which already has funding problems?

That'll go over really well.

#16839

It's not the official position yet, but god willing it will be.

Do you think M4AWWI would leave existing private health insurance plans intact?

#16840
17 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Do you think M4AWWI would leave existing private health insurance plans intact?

Private plans will have to adjust to a new market player accordingly.  If Pete and the rest of those that support MFA are right there very well may be a natural run off of the private market.  Note however that market forces would dictate that not the government.  It’s also possible that private plans get better as a result and remain a preferred option.  Let’s stop acting like the government runs everything like Chic-Fil-A runs their drive through.

#16843
7 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Private plans will have to adjust to a new market player accordingly.

So will M4AWWI "protect" existing health insurance plans as Pete Buttigieg says?

It's a yes or no. You can add more detail, but the start is, "Yes, ..." or "No, ..."

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Note however that market forces would dictate that not the government.

How can market forces determine something that involves such a massive disruption by the government?

#16844
1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

I’m enjoying bad_teammate’s argument that unions would be incapable of negotiating any heath benefits for their members above the bare minimum imposed by law.   I guess it’s a miracle union workers make more than minimum wage.

On the plus side for conservatives, we will apparently get Bernie Bros onboard with right to work states at this rate.  All it took was for unions to oppose something Bernie proposed.

Who is your preferred candidate?  Curious - thanks!!!

#16845
Just now, longhornmatt said:

I’m enjoying bad_teammate’s argument that unions would be incapable of negotiating any heath benefits for their members above the bare minimum imposed by law.

I'm sure they could negotiate all kinds of things.

Pete Buttigieg says that M4AWWI would protect their existing plans. I am simply asking whether or not that's true.

Because they love their existing plans, right? So can they keep their existing plans under M4AWWI?

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On the plus side for conservatives, we will apparently get Bernie Bros onboard with right to work states at this rate.  All it took was for unions to oppose something Bernie proposed.

Unions don't oppose Bernie. :)

#16846
11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete Buttigieg says that M4AWWI would protect their existing plans. I am simply asking whether or not that's true.

Given that CBA's don't run concurrently with presidential election cycles, and could contractually go beyond 2020, the answer is yes, all things being equal.

#16847
44 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

Given that CBA's don't run concurrently with presidential election cycles, and could contractually go beyond 2020, the answer is yes, all things being equal.

This is also largely true for M4A, yes?

But let's say there's a plan the workers just adore and M4AWWI passes and the next year the CBA is up... does M4AWWI protect that plan?

#16849
14 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

In order of who I would prefer on the issues, putting aside electability, I would have the six main candidates as follows:

1. Klobuchar

2. Biden

3. Bloomberg

4. Buttigieg 

5. Warren

6. Sanders

I would be fine enough with the first 4.  I think Warren and Sanders would be disastrous, with Sanders being extra disastrous.

Adding in electability, though, I think Bloomberg is the only one of the four I like with a chance to win.  So, I guess him. 

Thanks. That helps me to understand your stances. 

#16850
The idea that Pete's plan would "protect" private insurance plans is laughable. It would dramatically alter the private insurance market, and unless M4AWWI has legislation involved that literally requires private insurers to maintain existing plans at existing rates frozen in time, there is no protection for those plans.
John Legend doesn't really understand unions and Pete's sales job is a lie.
 

“Dramatically alter the private insurance market” is the argument successfully deployed by the insurance industry against the public option in 2010, so it’s funny to see you invoke it.
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