June 13, 20232 yr MOTHER FUCKER. FUCK INFLATION!!!!! RIP Anchor Christmas Ale and FUCK CALIFORNIA Edited June 13, 20232 yr by AUS-97HORN
June 13, 20232 yr I used to see Anchor Steam in bars and restaurants a lot more than I do now. Once upon a time many years ago, it was one of the few "craft" beers I would see on a regular basis. But it got overtaken by the craft brewing revolution that it helped spark. I haven't had an AS in either bottle or draft form in a long time.
June 14, 20232 yr It's been many years since I last bought traditional Anchor Steam at the store, but I always looked forward to the Christmas brew. Bad news.
June 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, AUS-97HORN said: MOTHER FUCKER. FUCK INFLATION!!!!! RIP Anchor Christmas Ale and FUCK CALIFORNIA You mean fuck Japan? Sapporo bought them in 2017, this is probably part of their streamlining. I think they will keep making some Christmas Ale for the brewery.
June 14, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, We’reTexas said: You mean fuck Japan? Sapporo bought them in 2017, this is probably part of their streamlining. I think they will keep making some Christmas Ale for the brewery. An article I read said they won't.
June 14, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, HenryJames said: Draft Anchor Steam at Swan Oyster Depot is just the best. I was in SF a couple of weekends ago and knocked back a couple draft Anchor Steams at lunch with oysters and some chowder (not at Swan) Hadn't had any in years but its still a solid offering.
June 14, 20232 yr I would feel worse about this, but 1. Every time I drink that stuff, I get the worst headaches, and 2. I live in California so I can still buy some and get headaches from it anyway
June 14, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Rimbo said: I would feel worse about this, but 1. Every time I drink that stuff, I get the worst headaches, and 2. I live in California so I can still buy some and get headaches from it anyway California rules! Surly Summer Ski-Trip
June 14, 20232 yr Wow, that sucks. I love Anchor Steam. Their Christmas Ale is also usually excellent. Not always. It’s different every year. But it’s usually very good. I don’t drink Anchor as often as I used to. But it used to be my favorite and I drank it more than any other beer. I should probably go buy a sixer if they’re still on the shelves. I was given a personal tour of the Anchor Brewery one time. It was when they took me into the hop room that I realized where that Anchor Steam flavor comes from and how the hops affect the flavor of beer. That was an eye opening moment. It was beautiful.
June 14, 20232 yr Meh. Truly a beer with more romance than quality. The brand benefitted by being an early player in the craft movement when it was really more a regional mass producer. Like a west coast Sam Adams. I would drink it some on trips to Cali in the 80’s , and just didn’t when I lived in SF in the 90’s. By that time real craft brewers were emerging and then moved to Portland which was ground zero. A lot of these regional beers don’t travel well because they don’t control the supply chain, freight is expensive, and the aisle is crowded. I expect more of them to contract distribution for similar reasons.
June 14, 20232 yr I don't even drink anymore and this bums me out. The Christmas Ale label was different each year with a different type of tree as the symbol each year. Oh well.
June 14, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Macanudo said: I don't even drink anymore and this bums me out. The Christmas Ale label was different each year with a different type of tree as the symbol each year. Oh well. There’s a bar in their brewery with a shelf that runs all around the top of the room displaying their Christmas Ale bottles throughout the years.
June 14, 20232 yr Man, this sucks. I always enjoyed killing a few bottles (or even a magnum) while wrapping presents. Thanks a lot, Bin Ladin.
June 14, 20232 yr I always liked their Liberty Ale more than Anchor Steam. I don't think I've had either in 20 years.
June 14, 20232 yr I think the last time I had an Anchor Steam was when I was doing the Global Beer Club at Double Dave's when I was back in school. It was decent...
June 15, 20232 yr Their Christmas Ale has been a holiday tradition for me for like 20 years or so. This is a bummer to hear that they are shutting down.
June 15, 20232 yr I haven’t seen it in a while so not sure if they continued making it after the Japanese bought it, but Liberty Ale used to be amazing.
June 15, 20232 yr There is such an excess of beers and beer brands now from the microbrew cambrian explosion of the last 2 decades that if 3/4th of any random drinks disappeared overnight, its hard to notice. There's probably a ton of bottles that you could buy that taste near identical to Christmas Ale or Anchor Steam or whatever.
June 15, 20232 yr I used to roll into parties in Austin back in the 90s with a six pack of Anchor Steam and get weird looks from the Miller Lite crowd. I picked up some a few years back and it tasted like it had been on the shelf a while. Too bad. But as long as I can still buy SNPA, I'll be okay.
June 16, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, dcbc said: I used to roll into parties in Austin back in the 90s with a six pack of Anchor Steam and get weird looks from the Miller Lite crowd. I picked up some a few years back and it tasted like it had been on the shelf a while. Too bad. But as long as I can still buy SNPA, I'll be okay. This. SNPA is still my favorite ale. Just the right weight and bitterness.
June 16, 20232 yr One of the OGs of national craft beer, but man I can't remember the last time I actually drank it. Or even thought about it.
June 16, 20232 yr Sierra Nevada Xmas is great. Its a spiced IPA. Celebration Edited June 16, 20232 yr by huge
June 16, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, huge said: Sierra Nevada Xmas is great. Its a spiced IPA. Celebration I don't think it's spiced. It's wet-hopped or fresh-hopped. It is indeed delicious.
July 12, 20232 yr They are done. Sad day in San Francisco. An institution.https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/anchor-brewing-company-ceasing-operations-18196509.php
July 12, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, AnotherUTFan said: They are done. Sad day in San Francisco. An institution. https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/anchor-brewing-company-ceasing-operations-18196509.php Buckle up, because a lot of craft beers you either know or love are going to disappear over the next few years. I was taking to a local brewer this weekend and he basically summed up the industry this way: if you are a macro, or a tiny tap room, you are doing fine. Everyone else is getting squeezed six ways from Saturday by inflation, leveraged PE, and over saturation Edited July 12, 20232 yr by Bateshorn
July 12, 20232 yr I remember when I'd start off a Friday or saturday at a brew pub near me with an Anchor Old Foghorn. Like 14% ABV. I'd sip on that for about an hour, then would move onto the lighter things. Would end up saving me some scratch by the end of the evening rather than ripping through quantity beers every 12-15 minutes.
July 12, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said: Buckle up, because a lot of craft beers you either know or love are going to disappear over the next few years. I was taking to a local brewer this weekend and he basically summed up the industry this way: if you are a macro, or a tiny tap room, you are doing fine. Everyone else is getting squeezed six ways from Saturday by inflation, leveraged PE, and over saturation Plus shelf space. Stores, especially groceries, just don't have the space or desire to devote a huge amount their cold case to craft brews that don't sell huge volumes.
July 12, 20232 yr Damn, truly an institution. It’s a long shot but maybe Fort Point or someone keeps producing the Steam beer?
July 12, 20232 yr For those unaware, Fritz Maytag and Anchor Steam literally started the whole craft beer revolution single handedly. At one point demand was so strong he started teaching other people to start breweries just to take some pressure off his own. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2015/07/31/how-anchor-brewing-changed-the-beer-business.htmlSurely somebody will buy the brand and it will continue in some form, hopefully in its current facility.
July 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Macanudo said: Plus shelf space. Stores, especially groceries, just don't have the space or desire to devote a huge amount their cold case to craft brews that don't sell huge volumes. Yep. Thanks a lot, seltzer-drinking fucks.
July 12, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, AnotherUTFan said: For those unaware, Fritz Maytag and Anchor Steam literally started the whole craft beer revolution single handedly. At one point demand was so strong he started teaching other people to start breweries just to take some pressure off his own. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2015/07/31/how-anchor-brewing-changed-the-beer-business.html Surely somebody will buy the brand and it will continue in some form, hopefully in its current facility. maybe they’ll pack up and relocate to a better spot to do business in
July 12, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, TornACL said: Yep. Thanks a lot, seltzer-drinking fucks. Legal weed is the looming big killer of all varieties of alcohol.
July 12, 20232 yr So this is California's fault because a company went out of business? I thought that was just how capitalism worked sometimes? Maybe the OP was suggesting that California wasn't socialist enough for his taste?
July 12, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Bateshorn said: Buckle up, because a lot of craft beers you either know or love are going to disappear over the next few years. I was taking to a local brewer this weekend and he basically summed up the industry this way: if you are a macro, or a tiny tap room, you are doing fine. Everyone else is getting squeezed six ways from Saturday by inflation, leveraged PE, and over saturation What bugs me is that I'll go to the local craft brew section of the store, and what you see are twenty three different brands of IPA. And I guess that's great, if you like IPAs. But it's not really variety, is it?
July 12, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Bateshorn said: Buckle up, because a lot of craft beers you either know or love are going to disappear over the next few years. I was taking to a local brewer this weekend and he basically summed up the industry this way: if you are a macro, or a tiny tap room, you are doing fine. Everyone else is getting squeezed six ways from Saturday by inflation, leveraged PE, and over saturation It was never a matter of if, but when. I honestly feel that 50% of the breweries in America could go out of business tomorrow and it wouldn't really matter one fuck to me. Dont get me wrong, I'm sure I'd lose the option to purchase some of my favorites, but in reality there will still be thousands to choose from. I laugh when I cruise the aisles at Spes or Total Wine, because I have no idea about 99.75% of the beers in there. That total at the close of 2022 was ~9700 breweries. That's a hell of a surge in 25 years. 7 minutes ago, CooterBrown said: Legal weed is the looming big killer of all varieties of alcohol. No doubt. I can take an edible in the evening, catch a buzz for less than $5, sleep great and wake up with no aftereffects. I'll still drink here and there, but my overall alcohol consumption is probably down 80%+ from 10 years ago.
July 12, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Horn_Spanker said: Maybe they should have lowered their prices? Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Tell me you don't know anything about running a business without telling me... anchor steam: We can no longer afford the costs of making our beer! horn_spanker: You should lower your prices! as: So... that... we lose MORE money per bottle? hs: but you'll make up for it in increased volume! 🤦 Edited July 12, 20232 yr by Rimbo
July 12, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Rimbo said: What bugs me is that I'll go to the local craft brew section of the store, and what you see are twenty three different brands of IPA. And I guess that's great, if you like IPAs. But it's not really variety, is it? Hazy Mango Guava Tropical NEIPAs aren't going to drink themselves.
July 12, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Rimbo said: What bugs me is that I'll go to the local craft brew section of the store, and what you see are twenty three different brands of IPA. And I guess that's great, if you like IPAs. But it's not really variety, is it?
July 12, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Blotto said: No doubt. I can take an edible in the evening, catch a buzz for less than $5, sleep great and wake up with no aftereffects. I'll still drink here and there, but my overall alcohol consumption is probably down 80%+ from 10 years ago. It's anecdotal but my high schooler doesn't really know any teens that drink. Sure, some have a beer here or there but there's no getting drunk at all among her high school peers. However, about 80% smoke weed. If that's the pattern everywhere, alcohol companies are gonna be in a world of hurt when a generation gets over 21 and doesn't drink like previous generations.
July 12, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, CooterBrown said: It's anecdotal but my high schooler doesn't really know any teens that drink. Sure, some have a beer here or there but there's no getting drunk at all among her high school peers. However, about 80% smoke weed. If that's the pattern everywhere, alcohol companies are gonna be in a world of hurt when a generation gets over 21 and doesn't drink like previous generations. My son's high school was all about the vaping. Not his peer group, mind you...
July 12, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Rimbo said: My son's high school was all about the vaping. Not his peer group, mind you...
July 12, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Macanudo said: Hazy Mango Guava Tropical NEIPAs aren't going to drink themselves. What if they are on a nitro tap?
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