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We need to dedicate all available resources to finding this sub, bringing it back up to the surface, and stuffing David Concannon in it and dropping it back to the bottom of the ocean.

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After eleven pages, I'm confused on a couple of details that seem to conflict across several posts.

 

1.  The Porthole.  Obvious weak point.  But in one video, the dome appears to be walled off with a large monitor.  But that appears to be the other end (with the porthole being on the dome that doubles as the bolted on hatch.  While there are plenty of red flags to cause any functioning human to walk away from this death trap, but idea that they would be viewing the Titanic wreckage on a video screen instead of out of a porthole made it seem like an infinitely greater risk vs. reward equation.  As far as I can tell, the porthole was intact and they would be able to look directly at the wreckage if they reached it, which I doubt they did. 

 

2.  My initial understanding was that the sub had reached the wreckage on three separate occasions prior to this trip.  But in the Sonar Operator video posted above, he says it never had traveled to that depth before.  It seems like the CBS reporter said that after the first unsuccessful attempt, they later went down again and reached the wreckage.  If this was the first test run to the site, it's nuts that they'd take "not passengers" along.

 

Appreciate any clarification anyone can offer.

What you don’t want to hear right now if you’re on that sub. Who farted?

One would think that they would carry at least a six shot revolver on that shitcan. You could choose to keep up the good fight, and hope to be rescued, or choose to go out with a bang.

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Donald Trump Jr (no CR) has entered the chat. 
 

 

When Jr knows it's insane, it's pretty fucking insane.

1 minute ago, CHIEF said:

One would think that they would carry at least a six shot revolver on that shitcan. You could choose to keep up the good fight, and hope to be rescued, or choice to go out with a bang.

CHIEF

In a high oxygen environment, it sounds like a group decision.

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3 minutes ago, G650 said:

When Jr knows it's insane, it's pretty fucking insane.

We must have gotten him in his five-minute window of sobriety.

I've read they are dead-bolted inside and cannot be let out without someone doing it for them, so in the chance that they are on the surface somewhere floating along (which is a decent chance) they will still die if not found. Horrible.

13 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

 

 

We know the names of the people who didn't do their jobs, and they all work for OceanGate.

Just now, HonkeyVape said:

I've read they are dead-bolted inside and cannot be let out without someone doing it for them, so in the chance that they are on the surface somewhere floating along (which is a decent chance) they will still die if not found. Horrible.

You probably read that on this thread. 

2 minutes ago, HonkeyVape said:

I've read they are dead-bolted inside and cannot be let out without someone doing it for them, so in the chance that they are on the surface somewhere floating along (which is a decent chance) they will still die if not found. Horrible.

That’s been proven to be untrue

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10 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Donald Trump Jr (no CR) has entered the chat. 
 

 

OceanGate Gate?

2 hours ago, Tylerocks said:

I mean, what the fuck are they going to do even if they find it?

How would you recover something from that depth?

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

That’s been proven to be untrue

Citation?

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2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

That’s been proven to be untrue

National Geographic used to be a fairly reliable rag, especially for explorer type shit. I am not onboard and am happy to be convinced otherwise: 

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/titanic-wreck-oceangate-titan-submersible-rescue

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Is there a chance Titan has made it to the surface and we don’t know it yet?

That’s possible: Titan has a series of redundant safety measures that would allow it to dump its ballast and return to surface automatically if there is a system failure or if the pilot is incapacitated. But making it to the surface isn’t enough—because there’s no hatch, passengers would still be reliant on 96 hours of air the ship had when it first headed to the site, until a rescue crew could unbolt the craft and get them out. 

 

Wonder if billionaire and hundred millionaire would trade their entire net worth to be saved.  You live. But you live poor. 

2 hours ago, Tylerocks said:

I mean, what the fuck are they going to do even if they find it?

How would you recover something from that depth?

Think I know who they might call...

 

 

8 minutes ago, HonkeyVape said:

I've read they are dead-bolted inside and cannot be let out without someone doing it for them, so in the chance that they are on the surface somewhere floating along (which is a decent chance) they will still die if not found. Horrible.

Are you a wizard?

Which design flaw number is building a semisubmersible without a sonar beacon?  Is that #3,176?

2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

National Geographic used to be a fairly reliable rag, especially for explorer type shit. I am not onboard and am happy to be convinced otherwise: 

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/titanic-wreck-oceangate-titan-submersible-rescue

 

This is what I've seen in every description out there, including from the CBS reporter who has been on the sub.  That it's been proven "untrue" would be news to me, but I'm willing to wait if that isn't the case.  I suspect that it's not.

8 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Citation?

 

6 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

National Geographic used to be a fairly reliable rag, especially for explorer type shit. I am not onboard and am happy to be convinced otherwise: 

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/titanic-wreck-oceangate-titan-submersible-rescue

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

22 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Donald Trump Jr (no CR) has entered the chat. 
 

 

What external factors? You guessed it, Hunter Biden's dong.

the consensus is that the bolts are only secured on the outside. Now it's possible there's a method to open from the inside but only the company would know and I don't believe they mentioned it.  Even if the people inside could open it at the surface, they would have to be quick as I imagine water would be rushing in. 

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3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video . . . 

Bruh. 

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5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

Never change, Helo.

I mean I am sure they have checked under the mothership, Polar Prince, to make certain the Titan submersible isn’t stuck underneath the damn mothership somehow? 
 

I do (assuming they are all still alive and JUST running out of oxygen and sitting around waiting to die) feel bad for the 19 year old. The rest including his dad are all 48 and much older. Hope it wasn’t something he drug his dad to do or vice versus with their billions.

 

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7 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I saw a tiktok video

Of course.

Hey now if he sez he saw a TikTok commenter say it was that way, who are any of us to tell him otherwise...

 

Anybody want to do a little TikTok commenter research and see if we can figure out who really killed Kennedy? My money is still on the Mob but who knows maybe the Nazis really did complete that Time Machine they were working on...

Has there been any talk about when the manned or unmanned subs can get to the site to explore the wreck for them? Not as a rescue but from recovery or at least to learn more.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/21/missing-titanic-tourist-submarine-search-noises-live-updates/70341342007/

"Lochridge’s concerns primarily focused on the company’s decision to rely on sensitive acoustic monitoring – cracking or popping sounds made by the hull under pressure – to detect flaws, rather than a scan of the hull."

So their safety protocol is what I do to check if my car engine is doing okay.

"Sounds kinda weird, boss."

"Well, just turn up the poop music volume. "

13 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

Helobious saw a TikTok video. What more proof do you need? 

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3 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/21/missing-titanic-tourist-submarine-search-noises-live-updates/70341342007/

"Lochridge’s concerns primarily focused on the company’s decision to rely on sensitive acoustic monitoring – cracking or popping sounds made by the hull under pressure – to detect flaws, rather than a scan of the hull."

So their safety protocol is what I do to check if my car engine is doing okay.

"Sounds kinda weird, boss."

"Well, just turn up the poop music volume. "

I’m not a materials engineer but it seems to me that if you hear carbon fiber cracking or popping 2.5 miles underwater you might as well just have this be the alarm:

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I saw a spokesperson from the search effort say they would address that problem after they locate the sub. I have to assume there are people giving some thought to the possible solutions already. It seems like waiting until you locate them might be too late to start planning the rescue. But I don’t know what technology we have to rescue them from the bottom of the ocean 2.5 miles deep even if we located them right now at this very moment. 

What would they use a flattened collapsed sub for? Put it on the state fair midway tour next to the Bonnie and Clyde Ford, Jayne Mansfield’s Buick, and James Earl Ray’s Mustang??
38 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Donald Trump Jr (no CR) has entered the chat. 
 

 

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19 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

A random commenter on a tiktok video said it. It must be true.

19 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

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Just now, Chad Fuck said:

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Do you even Helobious bro

“Bluetooth connection lost”. “Unable to pair Logitech controller”

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36 minutes ago, HonkeyVape said:

I've read they are dead-bolted inside and cannot be let out without someone doing it for them, so in the chance that they are on the surface somewhere floating along (which is a decent chance) they will still die if not found. Horrible.

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We all knew helo’s proof would be something like that. And it’s still crazy that random tic tok comment means proven false to him- or even unclear. 

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Finding a shipwreck is far different than this.  We've just recently been finding WWII carriers and battleships.    This tin can was 22x9x8.   

For reference:

The deepest wreck ever found was the U.S.S. Samuel B. Roberts.  She was a Destroyer Escort and one of those tasked with protecting Taffy 3's escort carriers when Halsey went off  on his wild goose chase.  She sank in 22,000 feet of water.   It was pretty well known where she was by position reports and it still took 77 years to find her.   

She was 306 feet in length (a football field) and assuming some of her bridge still remained after the battle and is sitting upright, she'd be between 40-50 feet in height.   

They aren't going to find the Oceangate for a while.  

Right.

27 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

A f'n tik tok video, huh. Did the expert relay that information mid-twerk? 

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Finding a shipwreck is far different than this.  We've just recently been finding WWII carriers and battleships.    This tin can was 22x9x8.   

For reference:

The deepest wreck ever found was the U.S.S. Samuel B. Roberts.  She was a Destroyer Escort and one of those tasked with protecting Taffy 3's escort carriers when Halsey went off  on his wild goose chase.  She sank in 22,000 feet of water.   It was pretty well known where she was by position reports and it still took 77 years to find her.   

She was 306 feet in length (a football field) and assuming some of her bridge still remained after the battle and is sitting upright, she'd be between 40-50 feet in height.   

They aren't going to find the Oceangate for a while.  

Ballard has frequently talked about how they found the Titanic by realizing that it was much easy to find the larger debris field and then follow it to the Titanic.  If the sub is not on the surface or stuck on or near the Titanic, we may never find it.

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

 

I saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue. It makes more sense that it’s openable from the inside anyway. So I guess “proven” was the wrong word. More like it’s currently unknown.

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32 minutes ago, Helobious said:

saw a tiktok video and one of the commenters on it said it was untrue.

Link it up.  I kind of want to see what this person looks like.

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Ballard has frequently talked about how they found the Titanic by realizing that it was much easy to find the larger debris field and then follow it to the Titanic.  If the sub is not on the surface or stuck on or near the Titanic, we may never find it.

If this submarine is anywhere near Titanic, it’s now part of that same debris field. 

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