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#1753
2 minutes ago, troph said:

as already stated it probably doesn't get up to 450 in the oven. but science is science.

It may not get that hot, but the chicken is basted with the drippings and oil, and it's immersed in a 450 deg environment for over half an hour.  The mechanical engineer in me is highly skeptical that the surface oil doesn't exceed EVOO's smoke point.  (Full disclosure:  I hated thermodynamics and only tolerated heat transfer because the underlying math was interesting.)

#1755
Just now, troph said:

hey jj, I don't care.  do what you want.  mkay...?

Wow.  Fussy.  Carry on.

#1758
11 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

One last thing on fats/oils. There are arguments to be made about what % of total calories should be from fats. I think it’s widely accepted though that you want most of your dietary fats to come from saturated fats (SFA) and monounsaturated fat (MUFA)

only a minority (some recs say as low as 5%) of fat calories should come from polyunsaturated fats (PUFA) and of those you want to keep the ratio of Omega 6 : Omega 3 at around 2:1. So if you are cooking with oil you want to use one that is low in total PUFA or if high in total PUFA you want the ratio of 6:3 at 2 or less.
 

The worst for you are ones that have high total PUFA and high ratio of 6:3. Some of the worst are safflower oil, cottonseed oil, corn oil, and soybean oil. And guess which oils snack food / processed food manufacturers, chain restaurants, and other industrial kitchens use most commonly?

wait what

https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/polyunsaturated-fats

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/support/healthy-living/healthy-eating/fats-explained

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fat/art-20045550

 

 

#1759

Ok, there's a whole board for food stuff where you guys can argue about cooking oil for the rest of your lives.

#1760
Just now, kevwun said:

Ok, there's a whole board for food stuff where you guys can argue about cooking oil for the rest of your lives.

It's actually germane to this thread insofar as the "seed oil" drama is being brought by RFK Jr and his acolytes.

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#1761
5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's actually germane to this thread insofar as the "seed oil" drama is being brought by RFK Jr and his acolytes.

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#1762
2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Ok, there's a whole board for food stuff where you guys can argue about cooking oil for the rest of your lives.

Sir, this is the RFK Jr thread. The topic of cooking oil, like healing crystals and coffee enemas is appropriate since as a nation we no longer adhere to the science of medicine. 

 

#1764
Smoke point for EVOO starts around 375, starts around 500 for avocado oil. One thing absolutely happens when you exceed the smoke point - the oil breaks down and the first things to go are the antioxidants which is one of the primary reasons you consume EVOO. Flavor goes after that. Longer cook times the oil can even break down enough to transform to harmful compounds.
added bonus - do it with a ceramic non-stick and it will ruin the non-stick.
as sawbonz indicated it’s probably ok in the oven, one a good oven you can dial in the max temp at 350 which is plenty for most oven cooked vegetables, and two it probably doesn’t get that hot anyway. 
the stove top is dicey when it comes to EVOO.


You’re assuming that people are primarily searing things at high heat on the stove top. If you are searing meat, then I would agree that avocado oil or ghee are much better options than EVOO due to the higher smoke point.

Most of my stove top cooking is at lower temps for sautéing garlic and onion, vegetables, or cooking other meats at lower temps. I don’t want to scorch meats like chicken or shrimp. EVOO is my default for all of those things.
#1765

So how does everyone feel about Testosterone Replacement Therapy and drinking raw milk? Might as well throw in some dog meat into the conversation as well. 

 

#1766
3 hours ago, kevwun said:

Does RFK wear blue jeans to bed? Fuck, he's so goddamn weird.

he wears them to swim, as we saw recently (and I don't care to find the pic). he's probably a never-nude

#1769
16 minutes ago, F250 said:

So how does everyone feel about Testosterone Replacement Therapy and drinking raw milk? Might as well throw in some dog meat into the conversation as well. 

 

Florida raw milk lol

#1770
2 hours ago, F250 said:

So how does everyone feel about Testosterone Replacement Therapy and drinking raw milk? Might as well throw in some dog meat into the conversation as well. 

 

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my ball tanning machine.

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#1771
2 hours ago, troph said:

We banned gender affirming care. If I can’t have my estrogen you can get fucked on TRT.

You do realize that is not how this works, right?  Penis pills = (probably) covered by insurance.  Birth control = stop being a skank.   

#1773
33 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my ball tanning machine.

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This is how you MAHA.

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#1778
20 hours ago, kevwun said:

Does RFK wear blue jeans to bed? Fuck, he's so goddamn weird.

No… wait, what was the question again? 

#1779
I spent the week tracing how HHS Secretary RFK Jr. canceled $500 million in mRNA research and reporting on a(nother) very chaotic week inside HHS. Let me introduce you to the fringe doctors, anti-vaccine activists, and MAHA operatives behind the mRNA “debacle.” https://www.msnbc.com/news/news-analysis/rfk-jr-alienated-maga-maha-white-house-mrna-vaccine-rcna225100

 

#1780
A woman who was 20 weeks pregnant fed her toddler son raw milk. He contracted Campylobacter and then passed the infection to her; she progressed to sepsis, and had a miscarriage. She is suing the business that sells the raw milk, saying she didn’t know the risk. Don’t feed your kids raw milk. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/florida-raw-milk-lawsuit-miscarriage-b2808514.html

 

#1782
1 hour ago, HenryJames said:
A woman who was 20 weeks pregnant fed her toddler son raw milk. He contracted Campylobacter and then passed the infection to her; she progressed to sepsis, and had a miscarriage. She is suing the business that sells the raw milk, saying she didn’t know the risk. Don’t feed your kids raw milk. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/florida-raw-milk-lawsuit-miscarriage-b2808514.html

 

Surprised she wasn’t prosecuted for her miscarriage.

#1786
wait are hormone treatments legal or illegal now i can't keep it straight

 

#1787

Is that the challenge where they eat some roadkill, chug a liter of cheap booze mixed with raw milk, and then race tricycles around a course?

#1789
13 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Is that the challenge where they eat some roadkill, chug a liter of cheap booze mixed with raw milk, and then race tricycles around a course?

Then they cancel some more medical research funding and order the bombing of a small country.

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#1790
35 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Is that the challenge where they eat some roadkill, chug a liter of cheap booze mixed with raw milk, and then race tricycles around a course?

Sounds like a Surly tailgate.

#1791
On 8/17/2025 at 9:39 AM, HenryJames said:
A woman who was 20 weeks pregnant fed her toddler son raw milk. He contracted Campylobacter and then passed the infection to her; she progressed to sepsis, and had a miscarriage. She is suing the business that sells the raw milk, saying she didn’t know the risk. Don’t feed your kids raw milk. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/florida-raw-milk-lawsuit-miscarriage-b2808514.html

 

ah Florida, never change

#1793
Jesse Watters: Why do you wear jeans when you work out? RFK Jr.: Well, I just started doing that a long time ago because I would go hiking in the morning and then I'd go straight to the gym. And I found it was convenient and now I'm used to it, so I just do it.

 

#1794
10 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Is that the challenge where they eat some roadkill, chug a liter of cheap booze mixed with raw milk, and then race tricycles around a course?

No, that's the Surly tailgate.

#1796
31 minutes ago, HenryJames said:
Jesse Watters: Why do you wear jeans when you work out? RFK Jr.: Well, I just started doing that a long time ago because I would go hiking in the morning and then I'd go straight to the gym. And I found it was convenient and now I'm used to it, so I just do it.

 

Hiking in jeans is a number one no-no. Synthetics only if you don’t want chafing. And even then you can still chafe. Of course that clown hikes in his jeans. 

#1797
41 minutes ago, HenryJames said:
Jesse Watters: Why do you wear jeans when you work out? RFK Jr.: Well, I just started doing that a long time ago because I would go hiking in the morning and then I'd go straight to the gym. And I found it was convenient and now I'm used to it, so I just do it.

 

I've hiked in jeans more than a few times without issue. It's not preferable but it works. Hell I've played multiple baseball games wearing jeans and a pair of Red Wing boots, also not ideal but doable.

Working out with jeans just seems counter productive depending on the workout. Jeans tend to limit your range of motion when they cling around your knees. Jeans and leg day definitely do not go together.

#1798
12 hours ago, C-Man said:

I got you, fam.

8 hours ago, F250 said:

I've hiked in jeans more than a few times without issue. It's not preferable but it works. Hell I've played multiple baseball games wearing jeans and a pair of Red Wing boots, also not ideal but doable.

Working out with jeans just seems counter productive depending on the workout. Jeans tend to limit your range of motion when they cling around your knees. Jeans and leg day definitely do not go together.

 

Have you tried soaking them in EVOO first?  That will cut the friction considerably.

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#1800
3 hours ago, Bullneck said:

I got you, fam.

 

Have you tried soaking them in EVOO first?  That will cut the friction considerably.

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