July 10, 20232 yr https://dailynorthwestern.com/2023/07/08/top-stories/former-nu-football-player-details-hazing-allegations-after-coach-suspension/ The former player said he reported his experiences to the University in late November 2022. He alleges that much of the team’s hazing centered around a practice dubbed “running,” which was used to punish team members, primarily freshman, for mistakes made on the field and in practice. If a player was selected for “running,” the player who spoke to The Daily said, they would be restrained by a group of 8-10 upperclassmen dressed in various “Purge-like” masks, who would then begin “dry-humping” the victim in a dark locker room. According to the former player, team members allegedly identified players for “running” by clapping their hands above their heads around that player. The practice, the player said, was known within the team as “the Shrek clap.” The Daily obtained a video of a player clapping his hands during a game, which the anonymous player said was the same motion taken to signify “running.” According to the player who spoke with The Daily, Fitzgerald repeatedly made the signal during practices when players, specifically freshmen, made a mistake.
July 10, 20232 yr Seems more like stupid shit than anything else. Stupidity isn't illegal, yet... is it?
July 10, 20232 yr Just now, Tex Long said: Seems more like stupid shit than anything else. Stupidity isn't illegal, yet... is it? Wut. This has some weird “boys will be boys” vibes to it
July 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Tex Long said: Seems more like stupid shit than anything else. Stupidity isn't illegal, yet... is it? I'm not sure a school like Northwestern will consider hazing that includes a sexual component to be "stupid shit." If Fitzgerald really knew about this, I don't see him escaping discipline that isn't at least a few games suspension.
July 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Js1 said: Wut. This has some weird “boys will be boys” vibes to it More stupid than weird.
July 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Tex Long said: More stupid than weird. More weird than stupid. If aggy were Northwestern smart, they would be doing things like this, which should tell you just how weird things have gotten up in Evanston.
July 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, South Austin said: I'm not sure a school like Northwestern will consider hazing that includes a sexual component to be "stupid shit." If Fitzgerald really knew about this, I don't see him escaping discipline that isn't at least a few games suspension. So, it's the "sexual component" rather than hazing in general, that bothers you? What does your Mom think of it?
July 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Tex Long said: So, it's the "sexual component" rather than hazing in general, that bothers you? What does your Mom think of it? Just commenting that the optics of hazing, which is itself non-consensual, combined with the sexual element, make it hard for Northwestern to not take any action.
July 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, South Austin said: Just commenting that the optics of hazing, which is itself non-consensual, combined with the sexual element, make it hard for Northwestern to not take any action. At least the hazees were getting dry humped, and not soaked. What "action" would you suggest?
July 10, 20232 yr If this was alleged to have happened at a single summer training camp during a single year, Fitzgerald might be able to reasonably claim he didn't know about it. But the claim is this shit is a year-over-year tradition. The head coach definitely knew about it, and if he claims he didn't, he was asleep at the wheel. Forcibly holding someone down and dry-humping them as a group. Forcing QB and Center to strip and take snaps. Forcing freshman to strip and do stuff against their will. I don't really see a path for Fitzgerald to keep his job. The 6-month investigation already said the claims are 'largely substantiated'. This isn't some #metoo over reaction, this is the type of crap that needs to be called out and eliminated. The Big 10 looks like it has a coaching opening.
July 10, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Tex Long said: At least the hazees were getting dry humped, and not soaked. What "action" would you suggest? As I said earlier, I think at least he gets a multi-game suspension. Compared to some of the shit other coaches have done (e.g., DJ Durkin killing a kid), this was more humiliation than physical harm. But this is a pretty liberal university in a time where the optics aren't good, so I don't see Fitzgerald going without some kind of disciplinary action.
July 10, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, South Austin said: ... I don't see Fitzgerald going without some kind of disciplinary action. He's been losing way too many games for the last couple of years, so it might even be a "for cause" thing, as well. A little late in the year, but, hey, maybe Jimbo will be available, particularly if that Petrino thing doesn't work out...
July 10, 20232 yr I know a guy who tutored Fitz at Northwestern. Says he's a good dude. Apparently, he took a turn to the dark side. WTF is wrong with the Big 10? Are they just really bad at not getting caught, or are they particularly bad actors? Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, Northwestern, Indiana, Maryland, ???
July 10, 20232 yr There is no room for this in today's environment. If he knew or should have known because of how commonplace it was he's gone for cause. If this happened at Texas eight win Esteban would be promptly shown the door just like Chris fuck head beard.
July 10, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, Parliament said: a player was selected for “running,” the player who spoke to The Daily said, they would be restrained by a group of 8-10 upperclassmen dressed in various “Purge-like” masks, who would then begin “dry-humping” the victim in a dark locker room.
July 10, 20232 yr Popular Post For the life of me I will never understand this type of shit, whether it be in frats or sports or what have you. Seems like a bunch of dudes just REALLY wanting to rub up against another man with the added benefit of humiliation and dominance of the victim. “You see Smith miss that tackle? Oh man I’m definitely gonna teach him a lesson by dryhumping him to completion!” Unfortunately for them it’s actually sexual assault and should be considered an illegal and coercive act. Yes he should be shitcanned.
July 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, hookemATL said: For the life of me I will never understand this type of shit, whether it be in frats or sports or what have you. Seems like a bunch of dudes just REALLY wanting to rub up against another man with the added benefit of humiliation and dominance of the victim. “You see Smith miss that tackle? Oh man I’m definitely gonna teach him a lesson by dryhumping him to completion!” Unfortunately for them it’s actually sexual assault and should be considered an illegal and coercive act. Yes he should be shitcanned. It's clear he knew about it and that he enabled it. They mention some sort of hand sign that indicated someone was getting hazed after practice if they fucked up, and Fitz himself would make the hand signal. There's also photos of the white board, so hard to claim he had no idea. And yeah, I don't understand how sexual assault and touching another dude's junk is "bonding." Edited July 10, 20232 yr by Js1
July 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Js1 said: touching another dude's junk is "bonding." Many fine people are saying that’s how the gays greet each other in the gay bars. And these people are straight as an arrow so you know you can trust them.
July 10, 20232 yr Just now, Pato del Muerto said: Many fine people are saying that’s how the gays greet each other in the gay bars. Damn, I have been going to the wrong gay bars for the past 16 years.
July 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Js1 said: Damn, I have been going to the wrong gay bars for the past 16 years. And occasionally in a professional work environment Edited July 10, 20232 yr by Pato del Muerto
July 10, 20232 yr “You don’t know what it takes to really bring a team together! A football team is all about the lifelong bonds of brotherhood! Well that and the semen loads. Lots and lots of semen loads.”
July 10, 20232 yr It's clear he knew about it and that he enabled it. They mention some sort of hand sign that indicated someone was getting hazed after practice if they fucked up, and Fitz himself would make the hand signal. There's also photos of the white board, so hard to claim he had no idea. And yeah, I don't understand how sexual assault and touching another dude's junk is "bonding." Are you saying he ordered the code red?
July 10, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, immamac said: There is no room for this in today's environment. If he knew or should have known because of how commonplace it was he's gone for cause. If this happened at Texas eight win Esteban would be promptly shown the door just like Chris fuck head beard. To be fair, Beard's dismissal wasn't really prompt.
July 10, 20232 yr Author 1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said: WTF is wrong with the Big 10? Are they just really bad at not getting caught, or are they particularly bad actors? The Midwest is into some twisted shit. (I've seen things.)
July 10, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Deej said: To be fair, Beard's dismissal wasn't really prompt. He was suspended indefinitely pending an investigation. Fitz got a little wrist slap once this came to light
July 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Js1 said: He was suspended indefinitely pending an investigation. Fitz got a little wrist slap once this came to light I just remember all the squawking on here because he hadn't been fired yet.
July 10, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Parliament said: The Midwest is into some twisted shit. (I've seen things.) It's always the normal ones.
July 10, 20232 yr The trickle of info will soon become a flood. By the end of the week, Tom Rinaldi (not fired?) will be in Evanston with the soft focus lens. Bye Pat.
July 10, 20232 yr Popular Post WTF is going on in here? Pretty sure sexual assault is both weird and stupid. But more importantly it's illegal and awful. Trying to "no big deal" sexual assault is also both weird and stupid. Yes, if what is described happened it is 100% sexual assault.
July 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: WTF is going on in here? Pretty sure sexual assault is both weird and stupid. But more importantly it's illegal and awful. Trying to "no big deal" sexual assault is also both weird and stupid. Yes, if what is described happened it is 100% sexual assault. Yes. This is correct.
July 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: WTF is going on in here? Pretty sure sexual assault is both weird and stupid. But more importantly it's illegal and awful. Trying to "no big deal" sexual assault is also both weird and stupid. Yes, if what is described happened it is 100% sexual assault. "Old School" coach probably kept the same traditions going that were there when he was a player and an assistant. Most of the defenders I've seen on the Internet seem to be of the "hazing is a natural part of football, you just don't understand because you're not a real man" line of thinking.
July 10, 20232 yr "Old School" coach probably kept the same traditions going that were there when he was a player and an assistant. Most of the defenders I've seen on the Internet seem to be of the "hazing is a natural part of football, you just don't understand because you're not a real man" line of thinking.Most of the hazing stuff I see is some stupid shit that does nothing for anyone. Some of it is just basically giving guys a hard time about something. Wide spread dry humping by guys that were at the best partially nude is weird.
July 10, 20232 yr He's 4-20 the last two seasons. He'll resign and keep a good bit of his salary and the president will clean house and the AD likely (who is only there for 2 years) will be toast.
July 10, 20232 yr 57 minutes ago, Parliament said: The Midwest is into some twisted shit. (I've seen things.) Texans are super duper normal.
July 10, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, gatormarc said: Most of the defenders I've seen on the Internet seem to be of the "hazing is a natural part of football, you just don't understand because you're not a real man" line of thinking. Nothing says "I'm a real man" like barely-simulated rape. EDIT: and by "barely" I mean "awfuly close to actual rape" Edited July 10, 20232 yr by jimmyjazz
July 10, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, The Dog said: Judging from the player photos, the haircut accusations are b.s. In fact, it appears that the black players have wider ranging hairstyles than the white players.
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