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Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

They can claim a mental moral victory on the season if they play his health right, the question is what is more important to them, a better chance at beating us or an overall (perceived) quality season

1 minute ago, BurgleBro said:

They can claim a mental moral victory on the season if they play his health right, the question is what is more important to them, a better chance at beating us or an overall (perceived) quality season

Best case scenario for OU is to keep it close or pull out a miracle with Hawkins, then try to get a second shot in the SEC championship or in the playoff if they can make it through.  I think the goodwill is high enough with Venables right now that he doesn't need the excuse directly to save his job.  That could obviously change based on the rest of the year.

11 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

You type that as if it is a bad thing. 

39 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

In expanded playoff era you're 100% spot on imo.  But he could feel great and push to play, between him and his surgeon imo.  But with OU's schedule they can easily lose 2 and definitely be in and if they lose 3 and one is w no Mateer they still have a decent shot. 

37 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

In expanded playoff era you're 100% spot on imo.  But he could feel great and push to play, between him and his surgeon imo.  But with OU's schedule they can easily lose 2 and definitely be in and if they lose 3 and one is w no Mateer they still have a decent shot. 

This scenario implies a potential 2008 fuckery possibility. 

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

Oklahoma is crazy, but they aren't Ohio State level crazy. 

If Vegetables loses to Texas but otherwise has a great year and hits the playoffs they'll be happy to be functional again and aim at us next year. 
 

3 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Venables gets a mulligan if they sit Mateer and get beat by Texas. Nobody is going to blame him. He needs to sit Mateer for self-preservation unless the dude is anywhere close to 100%.

 

Yeah, there are few defenses in college football you would never want to play an injured QB against with a shitty OL. We are one of them.

"you can't injure it worse" is not true.

I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer Mateer trying to come back for our game. The injury and surgery is to his throwing hand.  If he comes back for that game, his passing is going to be all kinds of fucked up, he will be a fumbling machine if he tries to run the ball, and we are going to attack him mercilessly with Simmons and co. 

4 hours ago, LonghornSean said:

Sure, Jan

 

Just because surgery was “very well” doesn’t mean the recovery and rehab is going to be a breeze. 

 

On 9/26/2025 at 9:38 AM, Red Five said:

I just saw this. If the recovery time is a month, minimum, then how is there not risk in playing him before it's healed? Hell, get him out there at practice now and shoot him up with painkillers if that's the case.

North Dallas Forty - Peter Gent says hi from above.  

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22 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Yeah, there are few defenses in college football you would never want to play an injured QB against with a shitty OL. We are one of them.

Colin Simmons and Anthony Hill Jr say “hi”

I don’t give a shit if they roll out the second coming of Charles Thompson in his orange prison jumpsuit at qb.

 

It won’t make a shit and they can all fucking blow me. 

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21 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer Mateer trying to come back for our game. The injury and surgery is to his throwing hand.  If he comes back for that game, his passing is going to be all kinds of fucked up, he will be a fumbling machine if he tries to run the ball, and we are going to attack him mercilessly with Simmons and co. 

We get the public hype of beating OU at "full strength" while Mateer will be functionally limited and running less. He likely wouldn't finish the game. Also, Mateer getting reinjured and making his thumb worse would doom their season.

Only an idiot would rush him back for the Texas game. I fully expect BV to rush him back for the Texas game. 

On 9/27/2025 at 5:36 PM, NashLonghorn said:

Colin Simmons and Anthony Hill Jr say “hi”

Just to calibrate this a bit; 

Anthony Hill Jr. has 16 tackles, 1 TFL for -2 yards, and no sacks this season.

Collin Simmons is sitting at 6 tackles, 1.5 TFLs for -5 yards, and 1.5 sacks.

Both good players, but not really putting up the kind of numbers people hype them up for.

15 minutes ago, Constant said:

Just to calibrate this a bit; 

Anthony Hill Jr. has 16 tackles, 1 TFL for -2 yards, and no sacks this season.

Collin Simmons is sitting at 6 tackles, 1.5 TFLs for -5 yards, and 1.5 sacks.

Both good players, but not really putting up the kind of numbers people hype them up for.

Anthony Hill had 8 sacks, 19 TFLs and was First Team All SEC last year. Colin Simmons had 9 sacks and 17 TFLs last year and was the Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year. Worth noting that they combined for 2 sacks, 6 TFLs and a forced fumble against OU last year. 

Is your contention that they've both gotten significantly worse based on box score reading from primarily meaningless games so far this year? 

8 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

Anthony Hill had 8 sacks, 19 TFLs and was First Team All SEC last year. Colin Simmons had 9 sacks and 17 TFLs last year and was the Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year. Worth noting that they combined for 2 sacks, 6 TFLs and a forced fumble against OU last year. 

Is your contention that they've both gotten significantly worse based on box score reading from primarily meaningless games so far this year? 

I think my contention is they suck, and you suck. Last year is last year. Mike Leach said it best.

On 9/27/2025 at 11:58 PM, tbone_ said:

I don’t give a shit if they roll out the second coming of Charles Thompson in his orange prison jumpsuit at qb. 

The second coming of Charles Thompson played for us in 2021 and collapsed in the second half of Red River....

31 minutes ago, Constant said:

I think my contention is they suck, and you suck. Last year is last year. Mike Leach said it best.

Then OU should definitely play Mateer. He has nothing to worry about. Looking forward to it.

On 9/28/2025 at 8:39 AM, Josef Pwag said:

We get the public hype of beating OU at "full strength" while Mateer will be functionally limited and running less. He likely wouldn't finish the game. Also, Mateer getting reinjured and making his thumb worse would doom their season.

Only an idiot would rush him back for the Texas game. I fully expect BV to rush him back for the Texas game. 

No one will care but message boards fans in week 11 

13 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said:

No one will care but message boards fans in week 11 

If Mateer is rushed back before being fully healthy, reinjures his thumb, makes it much worse and is out the rest of the year...you are saying only people on message boards will care?

On 9/28/2025 at 8:39 AM, Josef Pwag said:

We get the public hype of beating OU at "full strength" while Mateer will be functionally limited and running less. He likely wouldn't finish the game. Also, Mateer getting reinjured and making his thumb worse would doom their season.

Only an idiot would rush him back for the Texas game. I fully expect BV to rush him back for the Texas game. 

Vulnerables does what Vulnerables does.

Mobilehoma has no qualms about running kids into the ground for the mere possibility of beating Texas.

They'll make Mateer play, and have no conscience when he gets hurt worse and is out for the rest of the season. They'll blame him for getting hurt in the first place, too.

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15 hours ago, Constant said:

I think my contention is they suck, and you suck. Last year is last year. Mike Leach said it best.

That's not really how it works at all, but I think it's probably smart to get all your crowing out before OU plays a team with a pulse. 

Wait so are we gonna win or nah.  aggy said they saw matter at chipotle in Norman and he told them he’s def playing. 
 

book it

10 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Wait so are we gonna win or nah.  aggy said they saw matter at chipotle in Norman and he told them he’s def playing. 
 

book it

Fake. But even he does play, if they do rush him back...fuck it. We win anyways.

 

Besides, it woudln't matter...OU has a built in excuse either way.  They lose without Mateer "wouldn't have beat us with him" and if he plays and they lose "he wasn't' fully healthy"

Just beat Florida. Beat OU either way, and move on.

11 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Wait so are we gonna win or nah.  aggy said they saw matter at chipotle in Norman and he told them he’s def playing. 
 

book it

He legit might play, this is the game he was looking forward to ever since he transferred to ou 

11 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Wait so are we gonna win or nah.  aggy said they saw matter at chipotle in Norman and he told them he’s def playing. 
 

book it

Lol

God damn, thats fucked up.  Aggy dad and sooner son.  Don't ever let anyone tell you that bad decision making can't be hereditary.

I don't think there is any chance that he plays.   It's a free roll for OU (from a playoff committee perspective) and Venables (from a job preservation perspective). Nobody is going to blame OU if they lose without Mateer and of course Texas won't get any credit if they beat OU without their heisman candidate.    Of course, if OU wins regardless, then everyone pretty much plugs them in as a playoff team and championship contender.   So why would OU risk playing an injured player without real practice time when they have little downside and significant upside letting him heal? 

Even as dumb as most Sooners are, this one seems too obvious to me no matter how much we all hear he's planning to play, gametime decision etc. etc. the next 10 days.

3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Nobody is going to blame OU if they lose without Mateer

 

Are You Sure GIF by Monty Python

 

'23 Florida St says hello.

2 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

Lol

Imagine publicly admitting that the best school your kid could get into is OU. What a family tragedy. 

let's hope the sooners didn't learn anything about managing QBs.

 

letting Dillon Gabriel walk for Jackson Arnold should have more ramifications than this

2 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

 

Are You Sure GIF by Monty Python

 

'23 Florida St says hello.

You are completely missing my point if you think '23 Florida State is relevant at all to a game the 2nd weekend in October.

Just now, thunderlounge said:

Nah, I get it. But never say never, and all that shit. 

I'm just saying a 9-3 OU team with a loss to Texas with Mateer playing will be viewed differently than a 9-3 OU team with a Texas loss and no Mateer.  That would be a huge talking point when evaluating similarly ranked teams.  To be clear, I'm working off the assumption Mateer would be playing less than 100%, be less effective and/or more likely to re-injure if he plays that soon after surgery.  Obviously if that isn't the case then he starts, but that just doesn't seem very likely.

32 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I'm just saying a 9-3 OU team with a loss to Texas with Mateer playing will be viewed differently than a 9-3 OU team with a Texas loss and no Mateer.  That would be a huge talking point when evaluating similarly ranked teams.  To be clear, I'm working off the assumption Mateer would be playing less than 100%, be less effective and/or more likely to re-injure if he plays that soon after surgery.  Obviously if that isn't the case then he starts, but that just doesn't seem very likely.

It really depends on who's at 12 . 

They kept out an undefeated Florida state so anything is possible . 

 

Imagine starting a thread just to talk about a rumor about another teams QB playing against your rival. 

On 9/29/2025 at 4:54 PM, Constant said:

Just to calibrate this a bit; 

Anthony Hill Jr. has 16 tackles, 1 TFL for -2 yards, and no sacks this season.

Collin Simmons is sitting at 6 tackles, 1.5 TFLs for -5 yards, and 1.5 sacks.

Both good players, but not really putting up the kind of numbers people hype them up for.

Proof that the average OU fan is in fact a RETARD.

3 hours ago, Skipper said:

I don't think there is any chance that he plays.   It's a free roll for OU (from a playoff committee perspective) and Venables (from a job preservation perspective). Nobody is going to blame OU if they lose without Mateer and of course Texas won't get any credit if they beat OU without their heisman candidate.    Of course, if OU wins regardless, then everyone pretty much plugs them in as a playoff team and championship contender.   So why would OU risk playing an injured player without real practice time when they have little downside and significant upside letting him heal? 

Even as dumb as most Sooners are, this one seems too obvious to me no matter how much we all hear he's planning to play, gametime decision etc. etc. the next 10 days.

Mateer being considered a Heisman candidate is all you need to know about how shitty the field is this season if he REALLY is a contender.   I think it's more along the lines he looked good against a crappy Michigan team and a horrible Auburn team where in the later they still need some help from the Refs to get the W.  Because we saw what kind of team Auburn was against aggy the following week  

1 hour ago, BigHornedLurker said:

It really depends on who's at 12 . 

They kept out an undefeated Florida state so anything is possible . 

 

Again.  FSU is not a relevant comparison. At all. Jordan Travis was hurt at the end of the season and unavailable for the playoffs.   We're talking about missing a couple of games in October.   JFC.  

Man it was quiet while he was winning and Arch was getting by. you think Arch would have finished a game with a broken hand. doesn't matter what happens at RRS at worst they are tied.

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