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    A special fuck you to the bitch ass pussies that have infected this thread for the last week. Maybe the most pathetic display from Texas fans regarding one of our players that I've ever seen.  Ar

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2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

TEs are poor blockers and they aren't dynamic in the passing game. Endries has all but disappeared as a receiver, but obviously Arch is missing throws all over. 

WIsner is good, but no one else is a value add. Pass pro is also below average here.

Sark is definitely an issue though. We thought it was Quinn, but now we see the common denominator here.

TEs are neither poor blockers nor poor receivers. Endries should have had a 40 yd TD tonight. TE (and RB) isn’t the problem. 

He sucks, but there were way too many plays called where he'd need 2+ seconds of solid protection to make the play.  

 

8 minutes ago, Levi said:

Arch is missing throws that are in every scheme. Day 1 install type shit. He’s a tough SOB, that’s for sure.

Caldwell is here because of Owen’s, who’s now behind a true freshman on depth chart. What do Arch, Caldwell and Lacey all have in common? 

They’ve all fucked South Austin’s mom?

Also, having Parker Livingstone blocking on bubble screens is apparently our new Split-Cade-Brewer-Out-Wide.

What’s the worst completion percentage all time at UT? I’ve googled, but have differing results?

6 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Talk of benching Arch is ridiculous. He made 3 bad throws tonight. Admittedly they were very bad and my son’s HS QB (15) makes them routinely. But he’s not getting benched. This O is bad with him and it would be bad without him with a far less talented QB. I’d look squarely at Sark and the line and tell supposed QB Whisperer to tell his prized recruit to stop thinking and fucking play. 

We clearly did not watch the same game tonight.  Arch was ass.  Pure and simple.

We should have been at least trying Caldwell out earlier & throughout this season.  Now it's too late & Sark has tied his anchor to a very average-at-best QB.

It's going to be a very rough go from here on out, till Arch leaves campus. 

TEs are neither poor blockers nor poor receivers. Endries should have had a 40 yd TD tonight. TE (and RB) isn’t the problem. 

Endries should only be on the field when it’s a pass, because he blocked as many people as I did tonight.
15 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Sark is definitely an issue though. We thought it was Quinn, but now we see the common denominator here.

I think the common denominator is the OL.  For all the talent we had last year, the OL was less than the sum of its parts and it affected Ewers badly with happy feet and injuries.

Most deserved blame for offensive woes this season, in order: 

1. Sark

2. Offensive Line 

3. Arch 

4. RBs

5. WRs 

 

Only an elite, veteran QB could overcome our issues, assuming they could survive a game behind this line. 

 

3 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Endries should only be on the field when it’s a pass, because he blocked as many people as I did tonight.

There was one Arch run where Endries had two guys he could have blocked and chose neither. 

 

3 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Endries should only be on the field when it’s a pass, because he blocked as many people as I did tonight.

I've just stopped responding to that guy because we clearly see the game differently. Our TEs can't block for shit right now.

2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Most deserved blame for offensive woes this season, in order: 

1. Sark

2. Offensive Line 

3. Arch 

4. RBs

5. WRs 

 

Only an elite, veteran QB could overcome our issues, assuming they could survive a game behind this line. 

 

1. Arch

2. O line

3. Sark

4. Receivers 

49 minutes ago, sidis said:

I checked. 172 yards at the end of regulation is not the worst since 2000…I thought it might be.

153 yards against ou in 65-13 loss in 2003. Scored the same number of points though!

unless you specifcally meant  conference games, or excluded bowl games, in the  2014 Texas Bowl, our yardage total was 59 or 60 yards

I understand that playing the backup is not for the future. 
 

It’s for this year. Where they still have w chance.  Riding it out with arch just makes this season worse and hurts another future too if he doesn’t improve.  We really could start Caldwell and juts see.  If there no improvement go back to arch. Not like he could play worse. 

22 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Nick Montana

Why would you do that to me?

Can we start a class action law suit on whatever camp Arch used in the offseason that fucked his mechanics?

As much love I have for Archibald Manning (I'm from the New Orleans area too), he is ass. Good kid, but he isn't gonna cut it as a premier D1 QB.

We better hope Dia Bell stays committed and this injury he has doesn't slow him down next season. We need to go in the portal and get oline and a QB or fucking something.

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8 minutes ago, Stringer said:

Can we start a class action law suit on whatever camp Arch used in the offseason that fucked his mechanics?

He roomed with Nussmeier at the MPA. Maybe Nuss rubbed off on him, because they both suck.

I can excuse a guy running for his life and still trying to make throws down the field like in the Florida game. I can’t excuse missing wide open 5 yard drags and throwing it at guys feet. I’m not sure that Caldwell will be an improvement but there is literally no harm in trying. We won’t get any worse on that side of the ball. Will it ‘scare away’ Arch and his camp? So fucking be it.

3 hours ago, Drew said:

Felt the same for a while. At least this year.  I was hoping last week was a spring board. But it’s the Same shit. 
 

Yes the play calling stinks. But he can’t call short easy passes cause arch can’t hit them.  

Its just that simple. Arch can't reliably hit the layups. While Sark has his own issues, how do you play call for a QB with his accuracy issues. We might as well run the f'n wishbone

1 hour ago, GabrielsHorn said:

He’s just not consistent enough to be a quality starting QB. 
 

sark needs to think about what does he really want for next year as bringing Arch back will be an easy way to get fired. 

I'm starting to think its more likely than not that Arch will probably transfer if he doesn't drastically improve. The noise will be deafening here in Austin next season and who wants to put up with that BS. And why wouldn't we see what we have in Lacey, or fuck it, Dia Bell assuming he sticks with us. If they can't play better than what Arch has displayed to date, what the fuck are we doing? His name is probably worth the most at Ole Miss and Kiffin's QBs have been putting up numbers. Wouldn't shock me. 

I was really optimistic after the RRS. It was the first time I'd seen him start live where I could see the full field and he played a very good game. Had me thinking the issues wereless about his processing and mental game (though still slow/needing improvement) and more about the OL.

The OL was terrible tonight and that's absolutely issue 1A but Arch was bad and got worse over the course of the game. He completely melted down and his play degraded. We've seen the game Ewers had against Georgia repeat with Arch 3-4 times this year. It's not going to get any better this season and may not ever. We have to look at options over the offseason.

I was optimistic after the Florida game that Arch could still be good but his O line was screwing him. Now I realize they both suck really bad.

7 minutes ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

As much love I have for Archibald Manning (I'm from the New Orleans area too), he is ass. Good kid, but he isn't gonna cut it as a premier D1 QB.

We better hope Dia Bell stays committed and this injury he has doesn't slow him down next season. We need to go in the portal and get oline and a QB or fucking something.

Bell will get injured or killed behind this line 

Arch needs to start thinking and playing like a great leader instead of just a great teammate. 

He plays the most important position and we need a confident and steady QB to help elevate the rest of the offensive players. He needs to take that next step, now. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, CurlyDumps said:

He's been so bad the camera person stopped expecting him to get throws off on third down.

I was cackling on the third down at the end. Glad we made it, but the cameraman so obviously expected a sack when Kentucky blitzed. I did too lol.

 

54 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Talk of benching Arch is ridiculous. He made 3 bad throws tonight. Admittedly they were very bad and my son’s HS QB (15) makes them routinely. But he’s not getting benched. This O is bad with him and it would be bad without him with a far less talented QB. I’d look squarely at Sark and the line and tell supposed QB Whisperer to tell his prized recruit to stop thinking and fucking play. 

If you're serious about winning this year you have to give someone else a shot. We should have lost tonight and there are obviously going to be more of these games for this offense. It's the rule, not the exception at this point.

Riding it out with Arch is an admission that you're not serious about contending this year and are hoping he ends up taking a major step next year having played through is struggles. This is obviously the route they're going to go and I don't think a Matthew Caldwell makes this team a contender soI'm kind of meh on the whole thing. But the talk of benching his reasonable if your midset is about winning games this year. Arch has been a liability more often than an asset.

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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Arch needs to start thinking and playing like a great leader instead of just a great teammate. 

He plays the most important position and we need a confident and steady QB to help elevate the rest of the offensive players. He needs to take that next step, now. 

 

 

 

He plays and acts like he is just having fun. Enjoying the college life. Goofing off and just being an overall gosh darnit good guy 

 

Most deserved blame for offensive woes this season, in order: 
1. Sark
2. Offensive Line 
3. Arch 
4. RBs
5. WRs 
 
Only an elite, veteran QB could overcome our issues, assuming they could survive a game behind this line. 
 
There was one Arch run where Endries had two guys he could have blocked and chose neither. 
 

That was the play I had in mind too. Ran between them, looked at them and ran on by. At least Washington tries to block.
2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I was cackling on the third down at the end. Glad we made it, but the cameraman so obviously expected a sack when Kentucky blitzed. I did too lol.

 

If you're serious about winning this year you have to give someone else a shot. We should have lost tonight and there are obviously going to be more of these games for this offense. It's the rule, not the exception at this point.

Riding it out with Arch is an admission that you're not serious about contending this year and are hoping he ends up taking a major step next year having played through is struggles. This is obviously the route they're going to go and I don't think a Matthew Caldwell makes this team a contender soI'm kind of meh on the whole thing. But the talk of benching his reasonable if your midset is about winning games this year. Arch has been a liability more often than an asset.

Agreed on the liability over the net asset. But it doesn’t matter. Nobody on the bench, with this line, is going to outperform him. We are stuck. Talk of benching him is nonsense. 

14 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I was really optimistic after the RRS. It was the first time I'd seen him start live where I could see the full field and he played a very good game. Had me thinking the issues wereless about his processing and mental game (though still slow/needing improvement) and more about the OL.

The OL was terrible tonight and that's absolutely issue 1A but Arch was bad and got worse over the course of the game. He completely melted down and his play degraded. We've seen the game Ewers had against Georgia repeat with Arch 3-4 times this year. It's not going to get any better this season and may not ever. We have to look at options over the offseason.

That's the thing that worries me most. He doesn't just have a couple bad plays, it spirals for him. At one stretch in this game he went 1/9 on passes, and there were multiple throws to be made. He just doesn't figure it out when he's bad, he can't fix it in game.

6 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

That was the play I had in mind too. Ran between them, looked at them and ran on by. At least Washington tries to block.

I vividly remember that play too and was confused why he didn't block anyone.

The line isn't good. Arch makes it look worse than it is. Teams blitz with impunity because Arch cannot read it or hit a hit route. 

Just now, nineliveslost said:

He plays and acts like he is just having fun. Enjoying the college life. Goofing off and just being an overall gosh darnit good guy 

 

Yeah, I feel like his body language and demeanor coming to the sidelines is like he's still the backup QB and one of the guys. 

Arch, you have to be the man. You are the starting QB at Texas. Don't worry about the outside pressure, start focusing on the responsibility of leading this team. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Agreed on the liability over the net asset. But it doesn’t matter. Nobody on the bench, with this line, is going to outperform him. We are stuck. Talk of benching him is nonsense. 

I’m not 100% on what I think about the situation . . . but how bad would he need to be to let him sit?  I guess if he had more turnovers? 

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1 hour ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Talk of benching Arch is ridiculous. He made 3 bad throws tonight. Admittedly they were very bad and my son’s HS QB (15) makes them routinely. But he’s not getting benched. This O is bad with him and it would be bad without him with a far less talented QB. I’d look squarely at Sark and the line and tell supposed QB Whisperer to tell his prized recruit to stop thinking and fucking play. 


Arch missed on 3 throws that were both easy AND would have gone for 25 to 50 yards

Arch probably threw another 5 to 7 easy first downs passes that were either behind the WRs, about twice as hard as the pass should be thrown, thrown high, or thrown too late.

Arch was under duress a lot this evening, but he was also absolutely unplayable. No question that he would have already been benched if he weren’t who he is. 
 

All of this being said, Arch is capable of playing much better. We’ve seen it. But he can’t channel it this year and really needs to not be playing. 

Once again, Arch was the worst QB that I saw on TV today. Simply atrocious and incapable of making basic throws. It is malpractice to keep him out there these days. 

7 minutes ago, Napoleon said:


Arch missed on 3 throws that were both easy AND would have gone for 25 to 50 yards

Arch probably threw another 5 to 7 easy first downs passes that were either behind the WRs, about twice as hard as the pass should be thrown, thrown high, or thrown too late.

Arch was under duress a lot this evening, but he was also absolutely unplayable. No question that he would have already been benched if he weren’t who he is. 
 

All of this being said, Arch is capable of playing much better. We’ve seen it. But he can’t channel it this year and really needs to not be playing. 

Once again, Arch was the worst QB that I saw on TV today. Simply atrocious and incapable of making basic throws. It is malpractice to keep him out there these days. 

I would agree with this. Arch was the worst QB I saw today…. And I watched the end of the mizzou-auburn game

If KJ Lacey cant beat out Arch in the offseason, we need to use NIL to bring in a top flight qb. That needs to be priority #1

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

If KJ Lacey cant beat out Arch in the offseason, we need to use NIL to bring in a top flight qb. That needs to be priority #1

You think Sark is going to allow competition vs Manning? He's a pussy.

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Arch needs to start thinking and playing like a great leader instead of just a great teammate. 

He plays the most important position and we need a confident and steady QB to help elevate the rest of the offensive players. He needs to take that next step, now. 

 

 

 

Arch needs to be benched. He’s dog shit. You keep trying to make excuses but reality is he’s terrible. 

5 hours ago, gmr548 said:

I was really optimistic after the RRS. It was the first time I'd seen him start live where I could see the full field and he played a very good game. Had me thinking the issues wereless about his processing and mental game (though still slow/needing improvement) and more about the OL.

The OL was terrible tonight and that's absolutely issue 1A but Arch was bad and got worse over the course of the game. He completely melted down and his play degraded. We've seen the game Ewers had against Georgia repeat with Arch 3-4 times this year. It's not going to get any better this season and may not ever. We have to look at options over the offseason.

Yep.  Caldwell might or might not improve the situation, but that would be for this season, only.  And I think this season is pretty much kaput.  We ain't winning shit with this OL, period.

So, might as well see if Arch can somehow improve or if we're really kinda fucked for next year, too.

Serious question: what the hell goes on at practice?

Are they giving arch slam dunk snaps and not putting on real pressure? (is this the difference between OU game prep and this)?

How is he not accurately placing the ball on short crossing routes? Da hell is going on ova dere?

1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

Serious question: what the hell goes on at practice?

Are they giving arch slam dunk snaps and not putting on real pressure? (is this the difference between OU game prep and this)?

How is he not accurately placing the ball on short crossing routes? Da hell is going on ova dere?

Good question.  I think we all know that a QB1 is not going to experience real pressure (ie with actual sack/hit potential) in practice.

But something seems to be going on in practice or in Sark's head where he becomes convinced that players can execute better than they actually can in game time scenarios.  And this isn't just an Arch problem.

Good question.  I think we all know that a QB1 is not going to experience real pressure (ie with actual sack/hit potential) in practice.
But something seems to be going on in practice or in Sark's head where he becomes convinced that players can execute better than they actually can in game time scenarios.  And this isn't just an Arch problem.

It’s been a sark thing since he got to Texas.
6 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

If KJ Lacey cant beat out Arch in the offseason, we need to use NIL to bring in a top flight qb. That needs to be priority #1

He apparently can't beat out the jagger part-time starter at Troy. 

It starts and ends there for me.  Last year people calling to bench Quinn were dreaming on the Manning name.  Now you have a part-time QB from a below .500 sunbelt team waiting in the wings.  And a failed Ryan Williams package deal who's unreadiness is the reason we had to bring in the Troy guy.  Good luck with all that.

51 minutes ago, WBT said:

He apparently can't beat out the jagger part-time starter at Troy. 

It starts and ends there for me.  Last year people calling to bench Quinn were dreaming on the Manning name.  Now you have a part-time QB from a below .500 sunbelt team waiting in the wings.  And a failed Ryan Williams package deal who's unreadiness is the reason we had to bring in the Troy guy.  Good luck with all that.

Bro. They clearly dont wanna burn his shirt.

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep.  Caldwell might or might not improve the situation, but that would be for this season, only.  And I think this season is pretty much kaput.  We ain't winning shit with this OL, period.

So, might as well see if Arch can somehow improve or if we're really kinda fucked for next year, too.

If the trend continues, Arch won’t be back next season.    Based on performance alone, he’d be lucky to go back to his home state and get a starting job at Louisiana Monroe or Nicholls State.    I think over the years many of us have seen decent to spectacular QB’s overcome mediocre coaching to the point it made that coach look like a genius.  Yes I’m thinking about Greg Davis here when Vince improvised and saved his and Mack Brown’s job at the right time.   This is a situation where there is some very obvious mechanical and psychological flaws at play with Arch on top of a con job done by Sark and staff over the off season to hide our weaknesses with our O-line.  

What QB either in a transfer or four or five star out of high school would want to walk into this shit show next season?  The only way this gets fixed is Sark is very upfront that he screwed up and that is not happening.  His post game comments last night were pretty much a tell.  We will see if the $9.95’ers have spine tomorrow.  And as the season keeps going down the toilet, we will see if CDC has the same 

 

1 hour ago, WBT said:

He apparently can't beat out the jagger part-time starter at Troy. 

It starts and ends there for me.  Last year people calling to bench Quinn were dreaming on the Manning name.  Now you have a part-time QB from a below .500 sunbelt team waiting in the wings.  And a failed Ryan Williams package deal who's unreadiness is the reason we had to bring in the Troy guy.  Good luck with all that.

I wouldn’t poke at a part time QB from a .500 Sunbelt team.   I mean Vandy is winning games with a QB from fricken New Mexico State who built its reputation taking pay checks for an easy home win for SEC and Big 12 teams.   He’s likely to earn another Top 25 win in a couple of weeks  at DKR assuming we are still in the Top 25 which we shouldn’t  be even with our “win” last night.   

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