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7 hours ago, SarkAfterDark said:

Arch came out and said exactly what we all saw. He wasn’t good enough, and some of you will still come on here and deflect and try and lay blame elsewhere. Sark didn’t call a perfect game, but he called a good enough game for us to win even if the QB was average.

and the qb, as bad as he was, played well enough to have us in the game with better scheming and play calling. you can’t have a 15 play drive that ends with you getting stuffed at the goal line on the most vanilla, obvious, predictable play call in the universe and not blame the guy calling the plays. especially when it’s part of a multiple season pattern of terrible play calls on 4th and short.

tOSU won’t hold another team to 7 points this year, and a big part of that comes down to how conservative and predictable we were, and our failure to change things up enough/in time: there’s only so many years you can go 1st down: incomplete; 2nd down: run between the tackles for 0-1 yards; 3rd and long; rinse and repeat. we needed to play with tempo and with quick reads, and we waited way too long to do that and didn’t stick with it when it was working. both guys had a really bad day.

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Just now, Tex Pete said:

We truly do have some of the shittiest fans in football. 

It is quite literally exactly like this on every other fan messaging board after a loss with shitty QB play.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, more experience hopefully helps Arch -- welcome to "The Show".    Colt and VY had bad games too


Game 1 QB stats; 19 completions, 32 attempts, 154 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. 7 points.

Game 2 QB stats: 17 completions, 30 attempts, 170 yards,  1  TD, 1 INT. 7 points.

1. Colt Mccoy v. OSU 2006.
2. Arch yesterday.

Colt turned out ok.

4 hours ago, Levi said:

Nash Talks Texas on Twitter or YouTube. He’s pretty good and gets the vids up quick. 

 

more open receivers than remember.

arch just can't hit them or doesn't see them 

classic milwee coached qb 

17 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

It is quite literally exactly like this on every other fan messaging board after a loss with shitty QB play.

Every other QB didn’t just start his first “real game” on the road at #3 with all sorts of external pressure. 

Manning played poorly. He will improve a lot. Our own fans shouldn’t shit on him this way. It is the exact same shit that was done to Chris Simms. It is going way beyond criticism.

This is one game. It sucked. But it isn’t career defining. 

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

Every other QB didn’t just start his first “real game” on the road at #3 with all sorts of external pressure. 

Manning played poorly. He will improve a lot. Our own fans shouldn’t shit on him this way. It is the exact same shit that was done to Chris Simms. It is going way beyond criticism.

This is one game. It sucked. But it isn’t career defining. 

You wouldn’t find any other fan base in upper tier college football reacting any differently, is the point.

4 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Our own fans shouldn’t shit on him this way. It is the exact same shit that was done to Chris Simms. It is going way beyond criticism.

Here? I haven't seen anything like that. It's gone into conspiracy territory on the shoulder stuff, but that's because he just looked so wildly different that what we've seen from him before. 

10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Every other QB didn’t just start his first “real game” on the road at #3 with all sorts of external pressure. 

Manning played poorly. He will improve a lot. Our own fans shouldn’t shit on him this way. It is the exact same shit that was done to Chris Simms. It is going way beyond criticism.

This is one game. It sucked. But it isn’t career defining. 

Literally everyone is saying the same thing you are. Stop with this lame ass sanctimonious finger wagging.  

35 minutes ago, Derka said:

and the qb, as bad as he was, played well enough to have us in the game with better scheming and play calling. you can’t have a 15 play drive that ends with you getting stuffed at the goal line on the most vanilla, obvious, predictable play call in the universe and not blame the guy calling the plays. especially when it’s part of a multiple season pattern of terrible play calls on 4th and short.

tOSU won’t hold another team to 7 points this year, and a big part of that comes down to how conservative and predictable we were, and our failure to change things up enough/in time: there’s only so many years you can go 1st down: incomplete; 2nd down: run between the tackles for 0-1 yards; 3rd and long; rinse and repeat. we needed to play with tempo and with quick reads, and we waited way too long to do that and didn’t stick with it when it was working. both guys had a really bad day.

I’m pretty sure I stated Sark didn’t call a perfect game and his struggles in the redzone are duly noted. That doesn’t excuse Mannings play. You can say Manning played good enough to have us in contention and others can say Sark called a good enough game, despite Mannings struggles to complete a forward pass to still have the team in contention to win. Regardless I don’t feel a need to pick sides, this shouldn’t become a Sark fanboys vs Manning fanboys argument. We’ve seen Manning play better, we’ve seen Sark call better games. I’m glad this happened in Game 1 and I have faith both will get their issues straightened for this season. 

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

It’s jarring to watch this and compare it to yesterday. No hitch in his delivery, layers the ball in when he needs to, footwork looks pristine. 

I sure hope yesterday was just an off day because it makes no sense, regardless of competition level.

 

This is what I don't understand. Am I just imagining it or was everything more sidearmed yesterday than in this video? Granted, this video only shows good plays but the motion just looked so much crisper and over the top than what we saw yesterday

30 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Every other QB didn’t just start his first “real game” on the road at #3 with all sorts of external pressure. 

Manning played poorly. He will improve a lot. Our own fans shouldn’t shit on him this way. It is the exact same shit that was done to Chris Simms. It is going way beyond criticism.

This is one game. It sucked. But it isn’t career defining. 

 

12 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I’m pretty sure I stated Sark didn’t call a perfect game and his struggles in the redzone are duly noted. That doesn’t excuse Mannings play. You can say Manning played good enough to have us in contention and others can say Sark called a good enough game, despite Mannings struggles to complete a forward pass to still have the team in contention to win. Regardless I don’t feel a need to pick sides, this shouldn’t become a Sark fanboys vs Manning fanboys argument. We’ve seen Manning play better, we’ve seen Sark call better games. I’m glad this happened in Game 1 and I have faith both will get their issues straightened for this season. 

What about Sark's red zone impotence? The dude has been working on it for 2 years now.  If he can't figure it out after 7 month of intense focus, what makes any of us think he will in the next 1-2 months?

10 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I’m pretty sure I stated Sark didn’t call a perfect game and his struggles in the redzone are duly noted. That doesn’t excuse Mannings play. You can say Manning played good enough to have us in contention and others can say Sark called a good enough game, despite Mannings struggles to complete a forward pass to still have the team in contention to win. Regardless I don’t feel a need to pick sides, this shouldn’t become a Sark fanboys vs Manning fanboys argument. We’ve seen Manning play better, we’ve seen Sark call better games. I’m glad this happened in Game 1 and I have faith both will get their issues straightened for this season. 

Let’s hope that this is reconciled and everyone is on the same page moving forward.  I have hope that things will get better and put us into the position of a National Championship run.

*pulls pin and counts to 3*

So what are Arch’s chances to still win the Heisman?
 

*runs for cover*

6 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

 

What about Sark's red zone impotence? The dude has been working on it for 2 years now.  If he can't figure it out after 7 month of intense focus, what makes any of us think he will in the next 1-2 months?

He literally addressed that. You’re losin it.

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

He literally addressed that. You’re losin it.

I am.  I need some more time to cool off.   Fuck.

2 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

 

What about Sark's red zone impotence? The dude has been working on it for 2 years now.  If he can't figure it out after 7 month of intense focus, what makes any of us think he will in the next 1-2 months?

I think the first empty trip in the RZ was more poor execution than poor play calling. 
 

The 4th down QB sneak on the last one was so atrocious I’m hoping that Manning was supposed to check out of it…Sark’s reaction on the replay sort of lends to that.  
 

Either way….in my opinion (and I don’t know fuck about fuck) all the rest of the in game play calling is fine…nobody anywhere is perfect 100% of the time….and we actually made effective 2nd half adjustments which is the complete opposite of last year…..but yeah, the chink in our armor is Red Zone success….until it isn’t.

31 minutes ago, Goredho said:

*pulls pin and counts to 3*

So what are Arch’s chances to still win the Heisman?
 

*runs for cover*

Realistically, they are unchanged. It still says Manning on the back of his jersey, and Texas on the front.

If he has a monster year the rest of the way, he'll be a front runner and all the chatter will be about how he grew up and overcame a rough start. 

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Your hands get tied when the QB can't connect on easy completions. But I still wish Sark had a little more up his sleeve to overcome it. 

 

2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

How many idiots think that Peyton video is real I wonder.

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25 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I’m pretty sure I stated Sark didn’t call a perfect game and his struggles in the redzone are duly noted. That doesn’t excuse Mannings play. You can say Manning played good enough to have us in contention and others can say Sark called a good enough game, despite Mannings struggles to complete a forward pass to still have the team in contention to win. Regardless I don’t feel a need to pick sides, this shouldn’t become a Sark fanboys vs Manning fanboys argument. We’ve seen Manning play better, we’ve seen Sark call better games. I’m glad this happened in Game 1 and I have faith both will get their issues straightened for this season. 

Well said. Idk why people feel the need to pick sides and only blame one. Arch played bad. Sark sucked in the redzone again. If either one were better, it might be a W. 

My main concern - I'm not an expert but why were Arch's mechanics so much shittier than last year? Maybe he was just in his head and will settle down, but if this is a new throwing motion he's using, that's a problem.

1 hour ago, Horndog said:


Game 1 QB stats; 19 completions, 32 attempts, 154 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. 7 points.

Game 2 QB stats: 17 completions, 30 attempts, 170 yards,  1  TD, 1 INT. 7 points.

1. Colt Mccoy v. OSU 2006.
2. Arch yesterday.

Colt turned out ok.

i think most are here. It’s just the arch fan bois last year that are pissing people off.

*pulls pin and counts to 3*
So what are Arch’s chances to still win the Heisman?
 
*runs for cover*

According to Vegas Insider, 13-1. I think it was 5-1 before yesterday
20 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Well said. Idk why people feel the need to pick sides and only blame one. Arch played bad. Sark sucked in the redzone again. If either one were better, it might be a W. 

My main concern - I'm not an expert but why were Arch's mechanics so much shittier than last year? Maybe he was just in his head and will settle down, but if this is a new throwing motion he's using, that's a problem.

Young on the road against an NFL caliber secondary with the best player in CFB and NFL coordinator  instead of also rans at home. 

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37 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

 

What about Sark's red zone impotence? The dude has been working on it for 2 years now.  If he can't figure it out after 7 month of intense focus, what makes any of us think he will in the next 1-2 months?

Spoiler alert… He won’t. 

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

You wouldn’t find any other fan base in upper tier college football reacting any differently, is the point.

We don’t treat visiting fans like shit, and we shouldn’t treat our own players, after a single bad game, like shit. It really doesn’t matter what other teams do. 

Buddy just texted me Arch Manning as uncle Rico. Tried to text back the GIF with Vince, Matt and Reggie but could not find it. I told him that was a good omen around here.

1 hour ago, CurlyDumps said:

Literally everyone is saying the same thing you are. Stop with this lame ass sanctimonious finger wagging.  

I’m not being sanctimonious. I’m saying shitting on a player after one game is awful. 

So, what can be done coaching wise, to help him be more on target with his passes? There were too many passes, even if complete, where if he got the ball close to the right spot we could have been in a better position to win the game.

On 8/30/2025 at 5:38 PM, Thatguy said:

This isn't true. That's why 3 high has worked so well against us because our receivers just keep running and their secondary can just hand them right off to the next guy. That's what happened on the double coverage throw to Wingo. Downs, playing the inverted Tampa, ball hawk roll, took him when he passed into his 3rd and then the boundary corner picked him up when he crossed into his zone. This has always been a problem in Sark's offense here at Texas. 

Yep, certain offenses are designed to do what the poster you quoted said but not ours...

16 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

We don’t treat visiting fans like shit, and we shouldn’t treat our own players, after a single bad game, like shit. It really doesn’t matter what other teams do. 

Agreed, we don’t have some of the shittiest fans in CFB. Which is what you stated.

Sober rewatch today.   Baker may have had a shittier game than Manning.  But it’s close.  Manning either has a shoulder injury or he was overcome by nerves …  shit footwork and short arming so many throws.   I hope it was nerves.  

1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

Well said. Idk why people feel the need to pick sides and only blame one. Arch played bad. Sark sucked in the redzone again. If either one were better, it might be a W. 

My main concern - I'm not an expert but why were Arch's mechanics so much shittier than last year? Maybe he was just in his head and will settle down, but if this is a new throwing motion he's using, that's a problem.

When you're young, nervous and flustered you revert to bad tendencies. He'll get over it (I think).

11 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Agreed, we don’t have some of the shittiest fans in CFB. Which is what you stated.

No, we definitely do. Been that way at least since the 60s. 

11 minutes ago, Knighthawk said:

Sober rewatch today.   Baker may have had a shittier game than Manning.  But it’s close.  Manning either has a shoulder injury or he was overcome by nerves …  shit footwork and short arming so many throws.   I hope it was nerves.  

Why does he do that weird thing with his arm before he does stuff? Maybe we need to try a different sleeve jersey similar to what he wore in HS? Not making excuses but I never noticed watching his HS tape him doing that arm rotation thing. He was short arming the fuck outta everything

2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

No, we definitely do. Been that way at least since the 60s. 

Agree, there is a reason we get the shit we get from other fanbases.

On 8/30/2025 at 5:38 PM, Thatguy said:

This isn't true. That's why 3 high has worked so well against us because our receivers just keep running and their secondary can just hand them right off to the next guy. That's what happened on the double coverage throw to Wingo. Downs, playing the inverted Tampa, ball hawk roll, took him when he passed into his 3rd and then the boundary corner picked him up when he crossed into his zone. This has always been a problem in Sark's offense here at Texas. 

There was a wide open guy underneath the deep pass because of the double team. Wide open for 20+ yards. When the game slows down for arch he would punish that coverage. 

there were actually several plays like that. 

young QB....huge stage....incredible pressure.....and yet I never saw any coach try nd calm/ settle him down. They were treating him like a pitcher carrying a no hitter into the 8th inning.....no one dared talk to him. Strange to me.
I mean, there’s more experience and knowledge in his household that what Texas has in the building. Wonder if he’s been listening to the coaches this whole time and thought, do yall actually know what the fuck you’re talking about?

Is he worse than Kyle Flood?
The offensive line penalties and missed assignments looked like Flood had the new guys in midseason form.

Yeah, Flood is definitely one of those guys that needs to sit down with the Bobs.

We really need to drop half a hundred on these next 3 chumps.

6 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

We really need to drop half a hundred on these next 3 chumps.

We will. And they can’t run NFL caliber coverages either. 

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Posted 14 hours ago

Week ones are good for overreactions and out of proportion takes that typically don't age well, so read into this as you wish.

However, when scouring over the numbers and tape again this morning, there was a clear part of the passing game that felt worse than others – play action passes.

The numbers back it up too.

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Arch on Play Action Pass Attempts

10 drop backs

5-10 passing

26 yards

2.6 yards per attempt

1 INT

2 turnover worthy plays

Arch on Straight Drop Backs

24 drop backs

12-20 passing

144 yards

7.4 yards per attempts

1 TD

0 turnover worthy plays

Perhaps part of the offensive struggles on play action snaps include the average distance of target. On PA snaps, Arch's average distance of target was 11.9, compared to 8.8 on straight drop backs.

***

We will see over the next three weeks how this trend continues, but file this one in the growing "Didn't Expect That" folder from the season opener.

 

That’s decent analysis. Arch turning his back to the defense probably not such a great idea yesterday huh?

2 hours ago, Pods said:

If he has a monster year the rest of the way, he'll be a front runner and all the chatter will be about how he grew up and overcame a rough start. 

It was 27 years ago, but Ricky won the Heisman despite KState holding him to 43 yards on 25 carries.  I couldn't care less about the Heisman, it's a shit award given what they did to Vince & Colt, but one need not have a perfect season to win it.

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

It was 27 years ago, but Ricky won the Heisman despite KState holding him to 43 yards on 25 carries.  I couldn't care less about the Heisman, it's a shit award given what they did to Vince & Colt, but one need not have a perfect season to win it.

It's been a shit award since Marshall Faulk was robbed

2 hours ago, Pods said:

Realistically, they are unchanged. It still says Manning on the back of his jersey, and Texas on the front.

If he has a monster year the rest of the way, he'll be a front runner and all the chatter will be about how he grew up and overcame a rough start. 

FSU qb has to be up there no? Unless the Bama defense turns out to be a fraud that was impressive 

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