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4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yea choosing to scramble and slide is a real hard skill if you can run, which Arch can
 

If you want to question whether Sark will allow it have at it, but it’s pretty clear he’s been told to limit running. Even on the TD run today you could see those “coach has told me to find a receiver and not run” wheels turning as he approached the LOS  

 

reptitions matter but it doesn't matter it's obvious his QB coach and HC are telling him not to. There was at least 3-5 opportunities where he should have taken off instead of ripping low percentage throws. It's just brain dead of Sark to not tell his QBs, especially athletic ones like Arch, to not take free yardage.

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I think Sark is right not to have his QB running around at risk when unnecessary. But no one is paying me for my football acumen.

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

reptitions matter but it doesn't matter it's obvious his QB coach and HC are telling him not to. There was at least 3-5 opportunities where he should have taken off instead of ripping low percentage throws. It's just brain dead of Sark to not tell his QBs, especially athletic ones like Arch, to not take free yardage.

It is equally braindead to tell your QB—a QB for all his flaws at present is the only one on the roster who can take the team deep into the CFB playoffs this year—to run the ball in any situation against San Jose Fucking State. 

20 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:

It is equally braindead to tell your QB—a QB for all his flaws at present is the only one on the roster who can take the team deep into the CFB playoffs this year—to run the ball in any situation against San Jose Fucking State. 

If you can't do it vs San Jose St and get down to protect yourself you aint going to do it vs elite competition. Also with what we've seen on offense we shouldn't even been talking about going deep into playoffs.

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20 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If you can't do it vs San Jose St and get down to protect yourself you aint going to do it vs elite competition. Also with what we've seen on offense we shouldn't even been talking about going deep into playoffs.

You’re an idiot

Just now, Fat Bastard said:

You’re an idiot

No, it's fucking idiotic to think that when a QB is being told not to run or use his legs to expect him to do it in crunch time when he's not naturally doing it in games like today. Because once you have to do it in a big game you're going to look timid doing it and not decisive. Arch, well any QB needs to be decisive when they decide to take off to get yardage to extend drives or get chunk yardage if no one is open. 

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49 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

reptitions matter but it doesn't matter it's obvious his QB coach and HC are telling him not to. There was at least 3-5 opportunities where he should have taken off instead of ripping low percentage throws. It's just brain dead of Sark to not tell his QBs, especially athletic ones like Arch, to not take free yardage.

Arch did it at least twice last week, too, with the flat sideline passes.

33 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

No, it's fucking idiotic to think that when a QB is being told not to run or use his legs to expect him to do it in crunch time when he's not naturally doing it in games like today. Because once you have to do it in a big game you're going to look timid doing it and not decisive. Arch, well any QB needs to be decisive when they decide to take off to get yardage to extend drives or get chunk yardage if no one is open. 

Tl;dr. Because you’re a fucking dumbass. 

1 minute ago, Fat Bastard said:

Tl;dr. Because you’re a fucking dumbass. 

QB told not to run by coach

not runing when free yards available vs bad team is stupid

won't magically be good at it vs good teams

11 hours ago, elguapo said:

sLaNt cAnT bE ThRoWn uPfIeLd

 

Says guy who's never watched football before. Apparently the QB just has to lead the WR straight into the DB,  cause some guy on the internet thinks that’s the only way slants are allowed to be thrown. 😂

You clearly don't know what a slant is. 

2 hours ago, SimkinsMan said:

It is equally braindead to tell your QB—a QB for all his flaws at present is the only one on the roster who can take the team deep into the CFB playoffs this year—to run the ball in any situation against San Jose Fucking State. 

QBs run the ball throughout college football every weekend and there isn’t some epidemic of injuries. If you have a QB that can run it should be a part of your offense.

1 hour ago, Fat Bastard said:

Tl;dr. Because you’re a fucking dumbass. 

Good encapsulation of this entire thread. 

Non retarded QBs don’t forget how to run because they are asked not to for a couple shit games. TBD on if Arch is retarded.

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Non retarded QBs don’t forget how to run because they are asked not to for a couple shit games. TBD on if Arch is retarded.

Being ingrained to pass first and not run like Sark tends to do with his QBs makes them second guess their decisions to take off and effectively limits them more.

14 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

He looks hurt to me. He ain’t slinging like last year boys. 
 

 

 

IF he is playing through an injury or pain, he could be defiantly trying to ignore it. Isn't a shoulder tear/rotator cuff injury what ended his dad's playing career?
Also, he sat behind a QB playing through pain/injury for 2 years, so he may feel like this is how its going to be as a QB

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He looks hurt to me. He ain’t slinging like last year boys. 
 
 
 

We’ve been told if he was injured in anyway, we would know. Because we never been mislead by a coaching staff about injuries.
IF he is playing through an injury or pain, he could be defiantly trying to ignore it. Isn't a shoulder tear/rotator cuff injury what ended his dad's playing career?
Also, he sat behind a QB playing through pain/injury for 2 years, so he may feel like this is how its going to be as a QB

Cooper had spinal stenosis as a wr didn’t he?
1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:


We’ve been told if he was injured in anyway, we would know. Because we never been mislead by a coaching staff about injuries.
Cooper had spinal stenosis as a wr didn’t he?

They wouldn't play him if he was injured.

2 hours ago, Fat Bastard said:

You’re an idiot

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59 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Being ingrained to pass first and not run like Sark tends to do with his QBs makes them second guess their decisions to take off and effectively limits them more.

Bro. Damn. 

They practice. Every week there is a game plan. That game plan changes. Elite QBs execute the plan. Above average QBs execute the plan. Average QBs execute the plan. 

Arch isn't going to forget when or how to run. Stop. 

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8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They wouldn't play him if he was injured.

He has *something* going on. He might be "hurt" but not injured. 

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They wouldn't play him if he was injured.

But footballholics

9 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Bro. Damn. 

They practice. Every week there is a game plan. That game plan changes. Elite QBs execute the plan. Above average QBs execute the plan. Average QBs execute the plan. 

Arch isn't going to forget when or how to run. Stop. 

Looks like he already did to me.

20 yard TD runs don’t get the people goin like they used to 

18 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Cooper had spinal stenosis as a wr didn’t he?

Yes

17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Looks like he already did to me.

It looks like he is following the game plan. 

Chill. 

Man, anyone who watches that clip above & thinks Arch doesn't look hurt, I dunno what to tell you.

Is he hurt bad enough or in an area where he's risking more damage by playing? No way for us to know. But it's pretty evident to me that he's dealing with a physical problem that's limiting his throwing ability. He did mostly do better today than a week ago, so who knows? Maybe it's improving somewhat. We'll see.

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

He looks hurt to me. He ain’t slinging like last year boys. 
 

 

 

but i was told that it was literally impossible for him to be injured.

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Or he grimaced because he knew it was a bad throw.

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i’m trying to think of another qb in the history of college football who has been scrutinized as closely or as harshly through four career starts as arch manning, and i can’t think of anybody. not even close really. it’s actually wild. the. wry same media who propped him up to be “a generational talent” before he’d had a chance to prove anything are now all tearing him down. an alarming number of Texas fans (many of whom worshipped quinn) are joining in. i’m not too worried about it, because his maturity is on another level, but it is very strange to watch. unprecedented. 

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Arch’s entire body of work:

rs freshman: gets two starts when qb1 is injured, we beat the crap out of two shitty teams 

sophomore: loses by 7 on the road vs now-no.1 tosu, records 5 td and 1 to vs sjsu

thats it

name another player in the history of college football with a resume this sparse who’s taken more criticism and had more definitive statements made about who he is as a qb with  this little experience under his belt. the shit is actually crazy. 

He clearly started to wince when the ball was along his ear, long before it was actually released. 

6 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

QBs run the ball throughout college football every weekend and there isn’t some epidemic of injuries. If you have a QB that can run it should be a part of your offense.

Fellas, great idea here: in a QB room with a journeyman and 3 freshmen, lets have your (possibly hurt) QB1 on his 4th start run the ball around against a high school opponent instead of using the snaps to work on his throwing decisions and mechanics. 

 

7 hours ago, Slacks said:

Arch isn't going to forget when or how to run. Stop. 

Left, right, left, left, shit!

3 hours ago, 52-80 said:

He clearly started to wince when the ball was along his ear, long before it was actually released. 

I don’t know if he’s injured/hurt, but he also made that face on a TD throw (so not a reaction to a bad throw). Think it was to the right end; I saw it during highlights. My buddy says all the Mannings make weird faces when they throw. Hope he’s not hurt or heals up before conference play. 

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