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  • Brisketexan
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    That's not true.  There was definitely a vote.  It was $3 million to zero.  The vote took place in Dan Patrick's bank account.  It was not interfered with by any italian satellites or china with bambo

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#1202
1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Here's the thing: Paxton may have made his biggest mistake a couple of weeks ago, when he publicly vowed to campaign against every one of the 60 Republicans who voted for his impeachment in the House, and presumably, he will campaign against every Republican in the Senate last week who didn't vote to toss out the charges against him.  And we know he's petty enough and angry enough to do it.

This is a very good, and realpolitik observation.

Paxton is on trial for his political life.  He has said that if he survives the trial, he will seek vengeance on.....everyone.  If you are....anyone.....that creates a very, very strong incentive to END Paxton's political life.

"If you acquit me and I'm allowed to walk the streets a free man, I'm going to kill you."  "Well, okay then....I'm damned well gonna make sure you never walk the streets a free man again."

#1204

You have to figure that the DOJ is going to come down on Paxton ASAP after this trial. It will add to his narrative that he's being persecuted but that doesn't make it false.

#1205
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This is a very good, and realpolitik observation.

Paxton is on trial for his political life.  He has said that if he survives the trial, he will seek vengeance on.....everyone.  If you are....anyone.....that creates a very, very strong incentive to END Paxton's political life.

"If you acquit me and I'm allowed to walk the streets a free man, I'm going to kill you."  "Well, okay then....I'm damned well gonna make sure you never walk the streets a free man again."

Come at the King, best not miss.

Not that he's really the King, but if you are going to make the consequences of a miss high, all you're doing is ensuring they do everything possible not to miss.

#1206

I wonder if Danny G is sustaining all of these objections so when Paxton gets curbstomped by the senate vote he'll have nothing about which to complain as to the proceedings.

#1208
8 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

this dude is lying

Prosecution is fighting for her life against all the absurd sustained objections from the defense. It's completely a tactic to prevent this witness from truthfully answering questions 

#1211
18 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

I wonder if Danny G is sustaining all of these objections so when Paxton gets curbstomped by the senate vote he'll have nothing about which to complain as to the proceedings.

Why would that matter? This isn't a real trial. It's simply a show for the senators who will then cast votes to convict or not at the end. It's not criminal or civil court so WGAF what is or is not allowed by Patrick?

#1212
5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Why would that matter? This isn't a real trial. It's simply a show for the senators who will then cast votes to convict or not at the end. It's not criminal or civil court so WGAF what is or is not allowed by Patrick?

My point was to speculate whether Patrick may be trying to appear to be deferential to Paxton for appearances (hence re-election chances) if the ultimate outcome is in the bag against him.

Albino did not appear credible.

#1213
Just now, DDD Dad said:

My point was to speculate whether Patrick may be trying to appear to be deferential to Paxton for appearances (hence re-election chances) if the ultimate outcome is in the bag against him.

Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarification. But to paraphrase Bob Uecker from Major League: "Nobody's watching anyways."

#1215

I think it’s pretty obvious at this point that elected officials should not be able to plead the fifth and keep their job. Avoid self-incrimination? Yes. Stay General? No.

#1216

It's funny to see paxton's lawyers get so sweaty about whether something's "in evidence" like they're trying to avoid talking about something that the lawyers then debate in full earshot of the whole senate.

#1218

Lol.... the defense offers "Objection. Argumentative."

That's rich.

#1219

I'm amazed at how good the prosecution lawyers outside of the big names seem to be. 

#1220

Holy shit that was a brutal takedown. Wow. Seems like a highlight of the entire trial.

#1226

So De La Garza -- the OAG HR guy -- was on the stand on cross. Went like this...

"Mr. De La Garza, are you familiar with the whistleblower act?"

"Yes"

"Then you know it says anyone fired within 90 days of being a whistleblower is given the presumption of being retaliated against?"

"Yes."

Lawyer then asks about all the whistleblowers fired within 90 days of reporting Paxton to FBI and the HR guy confirms the dates.

"Mr. De La Garza, are you familiar with the saying 'there are no coincidences in Austin'?" "No more questions."

#1227
40 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

So De La Garza -- the OAG HR guy -- was on the stand on cross. Went like this...

"Mr. De La Garza, are you familiar with the whistleblower act?"

"Yes"

"Then you know it says anyone fired within 90 days of being a whistleblower is given the presumption of being retaliated against?"

"Yes."

Lawyer then asks about all the whistleblowers fired within 90 days of reporting Paxton to FBI and the HR guy confirms the dates.

"Mr. De La Garza, are you familiar with the saying 'there are no coincidences in Austin'?" "No more questions."

Was he asked if he was aware that Ken Paxton agreed that the whistleblowers were owed $3.3m for Paxton's and presumably his actions as the HR lead? Speaking of which, that's quite the achievement as an HR rep to not mitigate the problems in firing people. Well done Mr. De La Garza in protecting the Texas taxpayers.

#1228

The AG's attorney is waiving attorney client privilege on behalf of the client? That's a client's privilege to waive, not the attorney's privilege. 

#1229

wfaa commentator: "part criminal, part civil, part whatever, part just made up"
 

well those last two are accurate. 

#1230

"instead of our lawyers working on this they could be doing something productive like filing biden administration lawsuits"

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#1234

So Paxton supporters want to hold a rally now, as the trial is wrapping up, when they could have been packing the balcony and protesting outside the chambers/Capitol....dozens of them.

Karl Rove is the fixer for the Bush cartel & has been for decadesBush family wants Ken Paxton gone so George P. Bush can take over as AGThat’s why Karl Rove is coordinating Ken Paxton’s impeachmentThis is a battle of We the People vs. the powerful but decaying Bush empire https://t.co/5qbpfY7y9n

 

#1235
1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

So Paxton supporters want to hold a rally now, as the trial is wrapping up, when they could have been packing the balcony and protesting outside the chambers/Capitol....dozens of them.

Karl Rove is the fixer for the Bush cartel & has been for decadesBush family wants Ken Paxton gone so George P. Bush can take over as AGThat’s why Karl Rove is coordinating Ken Paxton’s impeachmentThis is a battle of We the People vs. the powerful but decaying Bush empire https://t.co/5qbpfY7y9n

 

Yes!  It's the Bush family...they did this!  And also the Colonel, with his wee beady eyes and the secret ingredient he puts in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly! 

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#1236

Want to know how he's going to pay for his revenge tour against every Republican that voted against him?

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I’m heading to Maine next week to sit down with @TuckerCarlson and discuss the last two weeks in Texas politics. It should be interesting!

 

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#1237

This is actually a pretty good observation, yes Surly lawyers??

 

Ken Paxton’s defense achieved an important goal-He gave no statement that can be used against him by Federal Investigators. The only people who affirmatively increased their risk of Federal investigation were those who gave testimony in his favor &his lawyers #txlege https://t.co/bez2o9nbAg

 

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#1239
9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is actually a pretty good observation, yes Surly lawyers??

 

Ken Paxton’s defense achieved an important goal-He gave no statement that can be used against him by Federal Investigators. The only people who affirmatively increased their risk of Federal investigation were those who gave testimony in his favor &his lawyers #txlege https://t.co/bez2o9nbAg

 

That observation isn't wrong.  If I was representing Paxton, where my duty was to pursue and preserve his interests, in order of importance....yeah, "don't say shit that will send you to pound-me-in-the-ass prison" would be chief among my goals for him.  It was kind of the baseline strategy here - a "first do no harm" kind of thing.

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#1240
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

That observation isn't wrong.  If I was representing Paxton, where my duty was to pursue and preserve his interests, in order of importance....yeah, "don't say shit that will send you to pound-me-in-the-ass prison" would be chief among my goals for him.  It was kind of the baseline strategy here - a "first do no harm" kind of thing.

I think Paxton's team promised way more than what we got. The "we've got nothing to hide" remark at the beginning can't really be squared with all the obstruction and Paxton not only refusing to testify but refusing to even be present. Pay attention to their actions, not their words. That would be my theme.

#1241
OAG office scuttlebutt update: De La Garza was not the HR director when this Paxton scandal struck. That person was fired because he would not sign off of these OAG firings. De La Garza then was promoted because he would. #txlege #paxtontrial

 

#1242
34 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:
OAG office scuttlebutt update: De La Garza was not the HR director when this Paxton scandal struck. That person was fired because he would not sign off of these OAG firings. De La Garza then was promoted because he would. #txlege #paxtontrial

 

If accurate, that would have been a good line of questioning.

#1243

I rewatched De La Garza's cross, and when the defense was asking him about the time line, he didn't want to concede the date the whistleblowers went to the FBI because he didn't have personal knowledge of it. The lawyer was incredulous and asked him something like "you don't know? You're the head of HR, aren't you?" He answered "now, yes."

If it were a regular trial, I have no doubt Dutko would've picked up on it, but he was thrashing the guy and on the clock.

And as someone mentioned up thread, these senators are reading all of this anyway.

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#1244

Wrapping it up tomorrow

NEW: Ken Paxton’s defense team rested their case Thursday evening after a full day of testimony in which they downplayed his conduct as merely a part of his duties. Closing arguments will begin at 9AM Friday. #txlege #Paxtonimpeachmenthttps://t.co/HYfGr33NdP

 

#1245
7 hours ago, Cap33 said:

And as someone mentioned up thread, these senators are reading all of this anyway.

I think some of them have posted on the Alabama game thread.

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#1246
Rep. @BriscoeCain

This fucking timeline, where Briscoe Cain is listened to, and is one of the impeachment managers.

But yeah, sounds like today will move fast.

#1247

Briscoe never forgoes his time for butt 

#1248
11 hours ago, Cap33 said:

I rewatched De La Garza's cross, and when the defense was asking him about the time line, he didn't want to concede the date the whistleblowers went to the FBI because he didn't have personal knowledge of it. The lawyer was incredulous and asked him something like "you don't know? You're the head of HR, aren't you?" He answered "now, yes."

If it were a regular trial, I have no doubt Dutko would've picked up on it, but he was thrashing the guy and on the clock.

And as someone mentioned up thread, these senators are reading all of this anyway.

He was getting good stuff that he knew he had him on. During a deposition he would have definitely explored that. I'm not sure, even without a clock, that he pushes on it at trial. If he doesn't know the answer, it could all end up being nothing and diluting the cross. 

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