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#2351
Iran’s choice: lose its arm or lose its face https://t.co/R9kYay6CjR @farnazfassihi

 

 

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#2353
On 11/1/2023 at 4:30 AM, FartingMonk said:

They are trying to avoid Mogadishu and Operation Red Wings type stuff.  Military always says lessons and procedures are written in blood.  We lost a lot of special forces fighting terrorists in the urban desert environment because those guys learned that hiding in civilian populations set up easy ambush.  I think after Red wings when we lost 2 battalions of Tier 1 operators, it was quietly pushed that some collateral damage was acceptable.  ie drop smaller bombs

Not quite sure about your math....😃

Peyton Manning What GIF by Gatorade

 

On 11/1/2023 at 10:45 AM, Frank Drebin said:

A buddy of mine, who is a former JSOC guy (Green Beret) and is now an independent contractor who gets interviewed on the major news channels, told me we do not have enough good intel to send in our top guys.  His point is we have around 300 Delta Force operators.  It takes a lot of time and money to train those guys up.

You do not risk getting 30 of those guys getting killed to rescue hostages unless the risk to the operators is low.  You risk 30 of those guys getting killed to stop a nuclear attack no matter the risk.  But not to rescue hostages.

He referenced how much it hurt and was difficult to replace the 15 Seal Team 6 guys who died in Afghanistan.  Those tier one operators are difficult to replace.

The talent pool is always there. It's the experience / knowledge base which is difficult to replace.

16 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Your buddy should probably stfu.  

What Frank Drebin's buddy said is pretty much common knowledge. All that quoted above can be found at any library (Mostly from former SeALs and their book deals 🤷‍♂️).

Since the start of GWOT, what the press and a couple of administrations have released particularly about SeAL Team 6, along with Delta, the 160th or the other components from the Air Force (CCT/PJs) and Marine MARSOC is readily available.

#2354
7 minutes ago, BillyGoatHill said:

Not quite sure about your math....😃

Peyton Manning What GIF by Gatorade

 

The talent pool is always there. It's the experience / knowledge base which is difficult to replace.

What Frank Drebin's buddy said is pretty much common knowledge. All that quoted above can be found at any library (Mostly from former SeALs and their book deals 🤷‍♂️).

Since the start of GWOT, what the press and a couple of administrations have released particularly about SeAL Team 6, along with Delta, the 160th or the other components from the Air Force (CCT/PJs) and Marine MARSOC is readily available.

i may have combining red wing and extortion 17 incidents. 

#2356
8 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

i may have combining red wing and extortion 17 incidents. 

Just funnin' with you....

SEAL teams don't operate in battalion size (450-500 in training, can be larger in combat) strength. Ranger batts are that size, but even then normally don't operate or deploy at the full battalion size/strength. Usually in company or companies.

#2357
19 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

i may have combining red wing and extortion 17 incidents. 

That would be two SF groups. we don't have that many to take those losses without MAJOR impacts on SOCOM's ability. 

#2358
24 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

i may have combining red wing and extortion 17 incidents. 

You're good.

Red Wing's losses were 12 SEALS and 8 Night Stalkers (160th)

Extortion 17 was 30 US personnel and a military K9. 17 SEALs and a dog handler, 4 NSW support, 5 Army aircrew (Reserve and NG) 3USAF (2 PJs and 1 CCT) 8  Afghan Commandoes were also on board.

#2359
23 minutes ago, BillyGoatHill said:

Just funnin' with you....

SEAL teams don't operate in battalion size (450-500 in training, can be larger in combat) strength. Ranger batts are that size, but even then normally don't operate or deploy at the full battalion size/strength. Usually in company or companies.

damn my bad.  i forgot the order of battle.   I was thinking platoon.  not battalion.  on the submarine we'd get about 100 of those freeloading mouth breathers that came onboard.  only about 15-20 of them were actual SEALs.  The rest of them were faggot wannabe divers.  Or as A-gang called them, SEALs bitches.

#2360
6 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

damn my bad.  i forgot the order of battle.   I was thinking platoon.  not battalion.  on the submarine we'd get about 100 of those freeloading mouth breathers that came onboard.  only about 15-20 of them were actual SEALs.  The rest of them were faggot wannabe divers.  Or as A-gang called them, SEALs bitches.

Yeah, I remember now that you were a sub guy. 

Not to disrespect SeALs (sister service rivalry and all) but working with them, I'm not sure which are worse about the love of their bodies or hair, them or PJs! 😂 Matt Best has some great videos covering the subject on his IG. Sums them both up well. 

Check Me Out Derek Hough GIF by Hairspray Live!

#2361
Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says - WSJ https://t.co/TlR1MJ9Uux
U.S. Intelligence Officials told CNN today that they currently believe Iran and Iranian-Backed Groups like Hezbollah are “Holding-Back” their Attacks against the United States and Israel in order to avoid a Major Regional War, which Iran knows would cause Devastation to its…

 

#2362
28 minutes ago, BillyGoatHill said:

You're good.

Red Wing's losses were 12 SEALS and 8 Night Stalkers (160th)

Extortion 17 was 30 US personnel and a military K9. 17 SEALs and a dog handler, 4 NSW support, 5 Army aircrew (Reserve and NG) 3USAF (2 PJs and 1 CCT) 8  Afghan Commandoes were also on board.

yeah, that ain't two battalions. Also, at the last minute a new interpreter was brought in. Fucked up day for sure. 

Anyone who goes over the bridge in Bastrop will see a name. 

#2364
7 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says - WSJ https://t.co/TlR1MJ9Uux
U.S. Intelligence Officials told CNN today that they currently believe Iran and Iranian-Backed Groups like Hezbollah are “Holding-Back” their Attacks against the United States and Israel in order to avoid a Major Regional War, which Iran knows would cause Devastation to its…

 

Iran and Hezbollah are clearly trying to get a Response out of both the United States and Israel, so the opinion that they are “Holding-Back” to avoid a War is Ridiculous and Laughable.

 

 

#2365
52 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:
Iran and Hezbollah are clearly trying to get a Response out of both the United States and Israel, so the opinion that they are “Holding-Back” to avoid a War is Ridiculous and Laughable.

 

 

Iran likes the push the envelope with proxies. It's been that way for years. I agree that we should hit the Shia militias hard to get them to back off.

#2366

Why you need dismounted infantry with armor.

Hamas terrorists have published videos of attacks on the IDF in the Gaza StripThe video shows the terrorists crawling out of their underground tunnels and attacking the Israeli military in the back using Yasin anti-tank grenade launchers.
#IDF solders continue to engage in fierce battles with #Hamas terrorists in the #Gaza Strip, uncovering large quantities of weapons and destroying terrorist infrastructure near Hamas military bases.IDF forces are reported to have eliminated about 130 terrorists during the…

 

#2367
On 11/1/2023 at 9:48 PM, Willfully Horn said:

Four shots espresso, no sugar, no milk. Tastier than the espresso I make at home, damn it.

Starbucks do not know how to make espresso.  They make concentrated bean water.

I'll happily serve you my home espresso or pay for a drink at a shop so you can be properly coffee-pilled.

#2368
10 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Why you need dismounted infantry with armor.

Hamas terrorists have published videos of attacks on the IDF in the Gaza StripThe video shows the terrorists crawling out of their underground tunnels and attacking the Israeli military in the back using Yasin anti-tank grenade launchers.

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#2369

some more fake and misleading viral images

 

This video falsely claims to show Hamas's al-Qassam Brigades destroy an Israeli Merkava tank.The video is from the war in Ukraine, and shows the destruction of a Russian T-90M tank.
There's been no shortage of devastating images and videos of death and destruction from Gaza during this war.But this image is AI-generated. It's not real.

 

 

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#2371
6 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

That kid has 6 fingers lol.

So he's a Palestinian from Kentucky....what's your point?

#2372
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So he's a Palestinian from Kentucky....what's your point?

All jokes aside, you may be onto something.  The AI may have actually added that 6th finger due to likely inbreeding.

#2374

It's a thing

Prince of Persia girl Gemma Arterton was born with six fingers on each hand

Gemma Arterton, has disclosed that she was born with six fingers on each hand. Credit: Me

 

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#2375
47 minutes ago, Nivek said:


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I wonder if he slash some Israeli kid's father right through the heart.

#2376
2 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

All jokes aside, you may be onto something.  The AI may have actually added that 6th finger due to likely inbreeding.

Inbreeding is common in Arab countries.

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#2380
4 minutes ago, Viper said:

This seems like the next outrage spreading around today.  

 

 

NPR Reporter is pessimistic

 

There's about 8 more tweets in the thread so click the thread reader link for the rest

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1720431360609755410.html

The point about Israel's tolerance for high civilian casualties being the Achilles heel of entire operation is spot-on.  Israel looks to be heading for a textbook example of "how to win the battle and lose the war."  Which, as a state led by Bibi Netanyahu, checks out.

#2382
43 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The point about Israel's tolerance for high civilian casualties being the Achilles heel of entire operation is spot-on.  Israel looks to be heading for a textbook example of "how to win the battle and lose the war."  Which, as a state led by Bibi Netanyahu, checks out.

Serious question: what is high, medium and low for civilian casualties?

 

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#2383
2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Serious question: what is high, medium and low for civilian casualties?

 

The only correct answer is "it depends."  It's circumstantial.  Oh, and it's cynical as hell, in that the tipping point is "for a given situation, what will be the tipping point of what is understandable/acceptable to the broader audience?"  And that may change block by block, target by target.

#2384

The civilian rate debate is a good place to drop this very informative thread on how militaries think about acceptable civilian casualties. I learned a lot.

In recent days, I have seen many asking ‘how does Israel justify killing so many civilians to kill one man?’I want to explain the concept of non-civilian cutoff values (NCVs) - essentially the number of civilians a military deems acceptable 'collateral damage' when striking.

The key point here that’s down in the thread is that October 7 resulted in the Israelis settling on a higher figure than they would accept before. 

#2390

Hezbollah and Iran are throwing Hamas under the bus and it would all be very funny to me if lots of uninvolved people weren’t getting killed. This is the equivalent of racing out of the backstage with a folding chair and then pulling up right as your kayfabe ally is getting pinned.

Here is a bit of analysis on the Nasrallah speech ⬇️There are clear signs that point to Hezbollah's reluctance to enter the conflict, through a number of rhetorical points: 1. Nasrallah claims the Palestinians, Gaza and Hamas are strong, He says the October 7 attacks have…

 

#2391
14 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Hezbollah and Iran are throwing Hamas under the bus and it would all be very funny to me if lots of uninvolved people weren’t getting killed. This is the equivalent of racing out of the backstage with a folding chair and then pulling up right as your kayfabe ally is getting pinned.

Here is a bit of analysis on the Nasrallah speech ⬇️There are clear signs that point to Hezbollah's reluctance to enter the conflict, through a number of rhetorical points: 1. Nasrallah claims the Palestinians, Gaza and Hamas are strong, He says the October 7 attacks have…

 

"This is the equivalent of racing out of the backstage with a folding chair and then pulling up right as your kayfabe ally is getting pinned."

 

What does this mean,  if anything?

 
#2392
36 minutes ago, SKJ said:

"This is the equivalent of racing out of the backstage with a folding chair and then pulling up right as your kayfabe ally is getting pinned."

 

What does this mean,  if anything?

 

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#2393
24 minutes ago, SKJ said:

"This is the equivalent of racing out of the backstage with a folding chair and then pulling up right as your kayfabe ally is getting pinned."

 

What does this mean,  if anything?

 
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Since October 7, Hezbollah and Iran have made a lot of belligerent and theatrical statements about the dire consequences that await Israel if they invade or pummel Gaza. This includes some Marvel end-credits or WWE hype style  cameo appearances by Nasrallah on social media:

مر على قلبي يا آية الحبِانت تومي إيمأً لبيك للحربِ#نصر_الله 💛

In yesterday’s big speech he basically announced “eh, we’ve done enough. We aren’t in this really.”

So, if you watched pro wrestling as a kid, it’s the moment where a wrestler acts like he’s going to intervene at the key moment in a match,  but then stands by the ring and watches his buddy lose.  

#2394
8 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Since October 7, Hezbollah and Iran have made a lot of belligerent and theatrical statements about the dire consequences that await Israel if they invade or pummel Gaza. This includes some Marvel end-credits or WWE hype style  cameo appearances by Nasrallah on social media:

مر على قلبي يا آية الحبِانت تومي إيمأً لبيك للحربِ#نصر_الله 💛

In yesterday’s big speech he basically announced “eh, we’ve done enough. We aren’t in this really.”

So, if you watched pro wrestling as a kid, it’s the moment where a wrestler acts like he’s going to intervene at the key moment in a match,  but then stands by the ring and watches his buddy lose.  

I see...

I never really watched pro wrestling...  so I completely missed that reference

#2395

Even as a kid I thought wrestling was stupid and fake. Like a bad sitcom with worse acting.

#2396
21 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Even as a kid I thought wrestling was stupid and fake. Like a bad sitcom with worse acting.

 

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#2397
1 hour ago, Nivek said:

Even as a kid I thought wrestling was stupid and fake. Like a bad sitcom with worse acting.

You probably are too young, but you missed out on Wahoo McDaniel, Terry Funk, Mil Mascaras and others.   

#2398
2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Since October 7, Hezbollah and Iran have made a lot of belligerent and theatrical statements about the dire consequences that await Israel if they invade or pummel Gaza. This includes some Marvel end-credits or WWE hype style  cameo appearances by Nasrallah on social media:

مر على قلبي يا آية الحبِانت تومي إيمأً لبيك للحربِ#نصر_الله 💛

In yesterday’s big speech he basically announced “eh, we’ve done enough. We aren’t in this really.”

So, if you watched pro wrestling as a kid, it’s the moment where a wrestler acts like he’s going to intervene at the key moment in a match,  but then stands by the ring and watches his buddy lose.  

HAMAS is going for the tag and Hezbollah jumps off the apron and walks off

#2399
2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Even as a kid I thought wrestling was stupid and fake. Like a bad sitcom with worse acting.

Were you more of a Kung Fu kind of guy?  If so, there's a movie coming out next month, real Christmas/holiday-style right up your alley called "The Iron Claw".

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