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#8451
1 minute ago, hornbri said:

 

Yep a post with a single word “nazis” is posting news? Wtf?

That was supposed to be part of the subsequent post but I clicked the button on accident when I was getting up to deal with something at work and didn't realize it until ~10 minutes later. My bad.

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  • I love watching liberals lose their shit when shit that is better for the world happens.

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#8452

Israeli attack on Gaza City beach cafe kills dozens, including journalist | Middle East Eye

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An Israeli air strike targeting a cafe on Gaza City Beach has killed at least 33 Palestinians, including a journalist, and injured around 50 others, according to eyewitnesses and reporting from Wafa news agency and Quds Network.

Images and videos circulated online by Quds Network revealed emergency teams carrying bodies out of the building’s wreckage and combing through the rubble.

Gaza's government media office said in a statement that Palestinian photojournalist Ismail Abu Hatab was among those killed in the attack. It added that Hatab had worked for a number of media platforms and organised several photo exhibitions about Gaza outside Palestine.

The media office said that Hatab's death brought the toll of Palestinian journalists killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza since October 2023 to 227.

 

#8453
23 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

I think it's pretty well adjusted to consider Zionists functionally and morally equivalent to Nazis, yeah. Thanks!

No.  It is complete rhetoric and exposes the speaker.  So keep it up.

#8454
25 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I found out the other day that a family friend’s son who is 21 and with the IDF was killed. Just awful. These are Old friends of my dad’s (who passed away in 2005) so I had not seen them in years and bumped into them in Dallas last week. I’d love to be optimistic about any agreement that curtails the violence and deaths and brings peace and prosperity to that region of the world but it’s been such a part of all of our lives it’s hard to see there will be any end in sight. To me it’s not political. It’s a vital thing to bring about this peace and Idgaf who brings it about. Anyway it was shocking to learn someone I know had lost a loved one to this ever going conflict that makes us all want to rip our hair out. ✌️ 

That’s awful. I share your frustration. Donating to the IDFWO is a really great way to help the families of fallen soldiers. 

#8455
6 hours ago, immamac said:

Next post that doesn't talk about anything that has happened in the last 3 days is getting time off. 

Next post that is Jew hate is getting time off.

Next post that is Muslim hate is getting time off. 

Grow the fuck up. 

Are you going to pistol whip the next person that says shenanigans

#8456
2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

See @immamac, you post news and they still cry about it.

 

Oh, there are definitely posters crying in this thread...

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-iran-nuclear-scientists-program-22453fec?st=b9zBBY&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The “China-Iran-Russia” Axis Is Falling ApartBeijing refused to back Tehran after U.S. and Israeli strikes, The Atlantic reports.When Israel and the U.S. launched strikes against Iran, both China and Russia remained silent. According to The Atlantic, this is a clear sign of…

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/06/iran-china-russia-axis-crumbles/683369/

Calls in Iran for the arrest and execution of IAEA Director General Grossi are unacceptable and should be condemned.We support the lAEA's critical verification and monitoring efforts in Iran and commend the Director General and the lAEA for their dedication and professionalism.…

 

#8462

He's just trying to lower the heat level, it's fine.

Netanyahu to meet with Trump in Washington next Monday | AP News

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The president in public comments has signaled he’s turning his attention to bringing a close to the fighting between Israel and Hamas, since the ceasefire to end 12 days of fighting between Israel and Iran took hold a week ago.

Trump on Friday told reporters, “We think within the next week we’re going to get a ceasefire” in Gaza, but didn’t offer any further explanation for his optimism.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt earlier on Monday said Trump and administration officials were in constant communication with Israeli leadership and bringing about an end to the Gaza conflict is a priority for Trump.

I'm more than a little skeptical anything good will come out of this meeting, but I guess there's always a tiny sliver of hope.

#8463
1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Not gonna lie I'm afraid to click on that

 

56 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

But what if the news is outrageous 🧐

You mean to say the video link I provided isn’t legit news? 
I thought considering the tone of the back & forth diplomacy between the White House and Tehran it was real. 
After all, even Billy Loochie says goats are the way to go.

#8464
BREAKING 🔴Trump signs order lifting sanctions on Syria.
BREAKING 🔴🔴The Times of Israel: Syria is no longer demanding the Golan Heights in a possible agreement with Israel.Instead, Damascus is seeking:▪️ Israeli recognition of Syria’s new government▪️ IDF withdrawal from southern Syrian territory seized since January▪️… https://t.co/9lQ7tmGayO
Middle East Could See Peace for the First Time in 75 Years

 

But! But! Hamas! And Gaza!

 

BREAKING:Mass-casualty event in Tehran after a drone struck an IRGC meeting.Several people killed and wounded
The Trump administration has notified Congress of a planned $510 million sale to Israel, covering precision guidance kits for aerial bombs, including:▪️3,845 JDAM kits for 2,000-pound BLU-109 bombs▪️3,280 JDAM kits for 500-pound Mk. 82 bombs

 

#8465
4 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
BREAKING 🔴Trump signs order lifting sanctions on Syria.
BREAKING 🔴🔴The Times of Israel: Syria is no longer demanding the Golan Heights in a possible agreement with Israel.Instead, Damascus is seeking:▪️ Israeli recognition of Syria’s new government▪️ IDF withdrawal from southern Syrian territory seized since January▪️… https://t.co/9lQ7tmGayO
Middle East Could See Peace for the First Time in 75 Years

 

But! But! Hamas! And Gaza!

 

BREAKING:Mass-casualty event in Tehran after a drone struck an IRGC meeting.Several people killed and wounded
The Trump administration has notified Congress of a planned $510 million sale to Israel, covering precision guidance kits for aerial bombs, including:▪️3,845 JDAM kits for 2,000-pound BLU-109 bombs▪️3,280 JDAM kits for 500-pound Mk. 82 bombs

 

And for the record. Me liking this post does not mean I agree, it means the poster brought news. 

#8466
53 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

And for the record. Me liking this post does not mean I agree, it means the poster brought news. 

You can always rep him for his avatar as well

#8473

I mean, you could also just look it up in traditional mainstream media. 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-usual-cooperationith-un-nuclear-watchdog-cannot-go-forward-due-2025-06-30/

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The statement did not specify what threats had been made against Grossi, but it follows an article in Iran's hardline Kayhan newspaper, closely associated with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, which accused Grossi of ties to Israel's Mossad intelligence agency. Should Grossi enter Iran, he should be tried and sentenced to death, it said.

 

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#8474
Just now, utee94 said:

Was just about to post that article. Yeah lol, it's just funny because people will trust whatever these AIs say even though they can easily look at reputable sources for confirmation.

#8475

Satellite Imagery Shows Iran at Work at Fordo Nuclear Site
Amid competing assessments of how badly the enrichment facility was damaged in U.S. strikes, Iran appears to be making its own inspection.

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Satellite images taken in the days after the American attack on Iran’s Fordo nuclear enrichment site show a flurry of activity at the heavily fortified facility built deep inside a mountain.

New roads can be seen constructed to the points where U.S. bombs struck the top of the mountain, and an apparent crane and an excavator seem to be working near one of the impact sites. Many other vehicles are also visible at additional points around the site in the images, which were captured by Maxar Technologies.

“It appears that they’re evaluating the hole, evaluating how deep it went,” said Joseph S. Bermudez, senior fellow for imagery analysis at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “The images are showing us that the Iranians are beginning the process of investigating what happened and what level of damage the facility has.”

American B-2 bombers dropped 12 Massive Ordnance Penetrators — 30,000-pound bombs often called “bunker busters” — on the Fordo enrichment site on June 22. Afterward, President Trump said the facility was “obliterated,” though other assessments have been more cautious.

Experts said the Iranians were most likely using the newly constructed roads and equipment to assess the damage themselves.

“It looks to me like they’re examining the impact of the event rather than doing any thing more substantial like carrying out repairs or recovery. I don’t think I see any evidence of that,” said Peter McDonald, a director at Viper Applied Science, a company that specializes in blast and structural dynamics and computational physics.

A day after the American attacks, Israel said it had also hit Fordo, striking access routes to the site.

Satellite imagery shows that repairs began quickly: By June 27, Iran had already filled in a large crater at the site’s entrance left by the Israeli strikes a few days earlier, the images show.

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Iran doesn’t appear to be beginning any type of reconstruction or repairs to the enrichment facility itself.

“I don’t think they’ve moved into the phase of reactivation,” Mr. Bermudez said. “There’s no real evidence for that. You would expect to see more vehicles, different types of vehicles.”

#8476
16 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

And for the record. Me liking this post does not mean I agree, it means the poster brought news. 

Just pure coincidence

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#8477
2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Just pure coincidence

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no, no, no! Pointing out how the president is trading personal favors for foreign policy concessions is politicizing things

#8478

The Unbelievable Reason Trump Is Threatening to Cut Aid to Israel | The New Republic

People really need to sit and think about how insane this is. Trump is trying to directly intervene to help Bibi avoid prosecution in his corruption trials.

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Netanyahu was indicted in 2019 on charges of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust. The trial began the following year, and has split into three criminal cases. In 2021, amidst widespread protests against Netanyahu’s leadership over the corruption charges, the Israeli prime minister lost his seat to a new coalition government. He subsequently returned to power the following year, fronting the most far-right and religiously conservative government in the nation’s history.

By March, polling within the country suggested that the vast majority of Israelis “don’t trust” Netanyahu’s government—roughly 70 percent—including his own supporters.

#8479

Trump: Israel agrees to 60-day Gaza ceasefire, Hamas urged to accept | AP News

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Talks between Israel and Hamas have repeatedly faltered over a major sticking point — whether the war should end as part of any ceasefire agreement. About 50 hostages remain captive in Gaza, with less than half believed to be alive.

Hamas says it is willing to free all the hostages in exchange for a full withdrawal of Israeli troops and an end to the war in Gaza. Israel rejects that offer, saying it will agree to end the war if Hamas surrenders, disarms and goes into exile, something that the group refuses.

 

#8481
1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

After US and Israeli strikes, some nuclear experts say Iran could be more dangerous - ABC News

Interesting take. I'm not sure Iran will pull out of the NPT but I think it would be very, very bad for them if they did.

Iran president signs law suspending cooperation with IAEA

Iran is also considering an entry ban on IAEA chief Rafael Grossi, after rejecting his request to visit nuclear sites.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/iran-president-signs-law-suspending-cooperation-with-iaea

#8482
3 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Iran president signs law suspending cooperation with IAEA

Iran is also considering an entry ban on IAEA chief Rafael Grossi, after rejecting his request to visit nuclear sites.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/iran-president-signs-law-suspending-cooperation-with-iaea

Yeah, the shittiest part I think is that I believe Iran would be open to re-establishing the terms of the JCPOA, but now I think they're getting desperate and going to take increasingly desperate measures.

#8485
🇮🇱 Israel's military said it would issue 54,000 call-up notices to ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students following a Supreme Court ruling mandating their conscription and amid growing pressure from reservists stretched by extended deployments, - Reuters

This will be interesting...

#8486
Red Sea ship hit by waves of attacks in apparent step-up in Houthi tactics https://on.ft.com/4lfTYc8
#8487
On 6/22/2025 at 5:33 PM, Hank Kingsley said:

The US Government's "strategy" with Iran is whatever Netanyahu tells Trump to do. And I guarantee you the bait Bibi is using is "you'll win a Nobel Peace Prize, Donald."

 

⚡️Netanyahu nominates Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. You genuinely can’t make this shit up.https://t.co/OgdwfPE4DS

 

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#8489
BREAKING: Houthi forces have sunk a second ship in the Red Sea this week. The Liberian-flagged Enternity C went down after a drone and speedboat attack, killing four crew members.
#8490

More on the Iranian nukes. Free link to NYTimes article: https://archive.is/NCtSK

TLDR:

  • Israelis say material is still there but buried, along with all the centrifuges.
  • US agrees says everything's buried.
  • Israel and US say they'll know if digging up material begins.
  • IAEA says some stuff was moved.
  • IAEA has been kicked out of Iran since the bombing, so they're now blind.
  • If Iran starts back up its program, it'll likely be a more secretive and highly dispersed operation.

 

#8491

Man, remember when everyone randomly cared about Iran's nuclear capability for about two full weeks? Seems so long ago.

#8493
16 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Man, remember when everyone randomly cared about Iran's nuclear capability for about two full weeks? Seems so long ago.

Still plenty of other countries for Israel to bomb!

#8495
On 7/6/2025 at 3:20 PM, Schulz2.0 said:
🇮🇱 Israel's military said it would issue 54,000 call-up notices to ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students following a Supreme Court ruling mandating their conscription and amid growing pressure from reservists stretched by extended deployments, - Reuters

This will be interesting...

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#8496
1 hour ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Good point. Syrians killed a lot of Arab people, so Israel should be immune from criticism when it kills Arab people. 

That is the point you’re trying to make, right?

#8497
On 7/6/2025 at 10:20 PM, Schulz2.0 said:
🇮🇱 Israel's military said it would issue 54,000 call-up notices to ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students following a Supreme Court ruling mandating their conscription and amid growing pressure from reservists stretched by extended deployments, - Reuters

This will be interesting...

 

 

#8498
1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Good point. Syrians killed a lot of Arab people, so Israel should be immune from criticism when it kills Arab people. 

 

Arabs killed a lot of Arab people.

 

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

That is the point you’re trying to make, right?

 

The point the speaker is trying to make is that the criticism is much more strident when it's convenient to criticize Israel for perceived inhumanity, but conveniently quiet when it comes to criticizing any other country. Even when the numbers are orders of magnitude larger. What point do you think he was trying to make?

#8499
41 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Arabs killed a lot of Arab people.

 

 

The point the speaker is trying to make is that the criticism is much more strident when it's convenient to criticize Israel for perceived inhumanity, but conveniently quiet when it comes to criticizing any other country. Even when the numbers are orders of magnitude larger. What point do you think he was trying to make?

How many of those other countries does the United States directly supply with arms and munitions and deploy B-2's on their enemies when they ask us nicely?

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#8500
 
The point the speaker is trying to make is that the criticism is much more strident when it's convenient to criticize Israel for perceived inhumanity, but conveniently quiet when it comes to criticizing any other country. Even when the numbers are orders of magnitude larger. What point do you think he was trying to make?

He was making the “tu quoque” logical fallacy, in one of its most classic forms.
It’s like the people who deflect our criticism of the cops by arguing “why aren’t you criticizing the criminals???”
Well, because the criminals aren’t supposed to be the good guys…cops are. The criminals don’t work for me, and aren’t paid by my tax dollars…the cops are.
So, yeah…maybe hold Israel, purportedly a democratic, law-abiding state, with a military heavily funded by my neighbors and me, to a slightly higher standard than, say, the criminal, Russian-backed Assad regime in Syria.
That would be the intellectually honest, non-logically fallacious thing to do.

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