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#301

Milei went to Davos and is shitting in the WEF's cereal bowl:

Milei speech starts @ 6 minute mark.

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#302
1 hour ago, bernorange said:

Milei went to Davos and is shitting in the WEF's cereal bowl:

Milei speech starts @ 6 minute mark.

He's more articulate and consistent (at least so far in these very early days) than other right wing leaders, whether that comparison is made to the present day or the last century in South America.  

The wave of privatization and de-regulation is the opposite direction of authoritarianism, unless there's a Putin-esque quid pro quo with the aristocracy/oligarchy.  If he ramps of the nationalist populism and liberal use of the military, then maybe the comparisons to Pinochet won't be inaccurate.  Argentina is racially and ethnically homogenous, with a very small indigenous minority, and Afro-Argentine descendants of slaves are also a tiny minority.  So the left/right divide is seen less along racial lines, which makes this less of a social experiment and more of an economic one, at least as much as those can be disentangled.  In other words, the oppressed/oppressor dichotomy is much more difficult to define and frame as a political movement in Argentina.  No one can even agree whether Peronism, the dominant faction in Argentine politics for the last 80 years, is left or right wing, and I think that's what makes it kind of confusing for people observing Argentina right now.  Either way, it was time to move on from the Peronistas.  That had become an incoherent mishmash of left/right populism, corporatism, and corruption.   

Argentina has needed a political enema for decades.  I don't know if this is going to work, or if they're going to end up worse off than before, but something needed to be shaken loose.  That's going to come with a lot near-term volatility as markets evolve.  But I am interested to see what happens with this experiment.  

#303

American libertarians are cheering him on, so I've got a pretty good idea of where his experiment will end up.

#304
51 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

American libertarians are cheering him on, so I've got a pretty good idea of where his experiment will end up.

I think this is the power of labels.  At the beginning of that Davos speech, his description of libertarianism sounds almost identical to the Federalist Papers.  I think a lot of disgust with Libertarians in the US (including from me) is the propensity to hide behind Hamiltonian descriptions of society while they're trying to justify their right to marry a 7 year old. Or other vile shit.  Then there are the MAGA folks who use a Libertarian wrapper to help their twitter following by making them seem edgelord-y, like oooohhh you're such an independent thinker, when in reality it's just an expedient ideology to hide sociopathic selfishness.  

Anyway, maybe you're right and Millei devolves into that.  We'll see.  

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#305
On 1/14/2024 at 9:55 AM, Biff Tannen said:

My co-worker announced last week that she's taking her big vacation this year to Argentina.  I'm guessing she doesn't pay much attention to the news.

Is it any more unsafe than it's been for many years. I'd go to Buenos Aires or a hunting/fishing trip to Cordoba tomorrow if I could swing it.

 

1 hour ago, ryskey said:

I think this is the power of labels.  At the beginning of that Davos speech, his description of libertarianism sounds almost identical to the Federalist Papers.  I think a lot of disgust with Libertarians in the US (including from me) is the propensity to hide behind Hamiltonian descriptions of society while they're trying to justify their right to marry a 7 year old. Or other vile shit.  Then there are the MAGA folks who use a Libertarian wrapper to help their twitter following by making them seem edgelord-y, like oooohhh you're such an independent thinker, when in reality it's just an expedient ideology to hide sociopathic selfishness.  

Anyway, maybe you're right and Millei devolves into that.  We'll see.  

I'm morbidly curious to see how this whole thing plays out. And you're right -- Libertarians in the US are (mostly) Republicans who secretly like a lot of the vile shit Trump stands for.

#306
2 hours ago, C-Man said:

Is it any more unsafe than it's been for many years. I'd go to Buenos Aires or a hunting/fishing trip to Cordoba tomorrow if I could swing it.

 

I'm morbidly curious to see how this whole thing plays out. And you're right -- Libertarians in the US are (mostly) Republicans who secretly like a lot of the vile shit Trump stands for.

I don’t see it as unsafe necessarily, but just chaotic with a government and economy that will do god knows what. I’ve never been though, so maybe talking out of my ass. 

#307
1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

I don’t see it as unsafe necessarily, but just chaotic with a government and economy that will do god knows what. I’ve never been though, so maybe talking out of my ass. 


every american should visit once 

#308

There's a strong national identity that will keep Argentina more or less functional in the midst of any political instability.  They expect it and shrug it better than they probably should.  Just bring US dollars. 

There's property crime but no worse than most major American cities.  Violent crime also similar to US average.

#309
9 minutes ago, ryskey said:

There's a strong national identity that will keep Argentina more or less functional in the midst of any political instability.  They expect it and shrug it better than they probably should.  Just bring US dollars. 

There's property crime but no worse than most major American cities.  Violent crime also similar to US average.

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#310
13 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:


every american should visit once 

Maybe learn Spanish to a functional conversational level first though.

#311
39 minutes ago, bernorange said:

Maybe learn Spanish to a functional conversational level first though.

The AI will handle that for us. This is pretty cool. 
 

Milei's 2024 Davos talk, directly translated to English by AI (by heygen), in his own accent. Better than the dubbed version imo.

 

#312
1 hour ago, bernorange said:

Maybe learn Spanish to a functional conversational level first though.


google translate fixes all that 

#313
2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:


google translate fixes all that 

Google translate aint gonna get you superior service at a restaurant bro!  /Po1d

#314
3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

The AI will handle that for us. This is pretty cool. 
 

Milei's 2024 Davos talk, directly translated to English by AI (by heygen), in his own accent. Better than the dubbed version imo.

 

Great speech. 
 

Some early numbers coming out 

First data on Milei's fiscal adjustments: public spending dropped more than 30% last month. In both the monthly and year-on-year evolution, there was a sharp drop in real terms in December. https://t.co/8miDyrZ8SX

no wonder so many people are mad at him 

#322
On 1/7/2024 at 8:09 PM, Boss Hogg said:

6It will be an interesting experiment to witness, but no more than their almost a century of consistent decline. 

Let's not forget that there are actual people slllll suffering here. 

#323
On 1/19/2024 at 8:32 PM, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Let's not forget that there are actual people slllll suffering here. 

For a long, long time.

Just watched the speech.  Hopefully he is earnest.  Strongly agree with much of the speech.

If he can successfully pull off the directional change for Argentina, Buenos Aires should probably be renamed for him.  80 years of going in one direction is going to be a ton of inertia.

#324

He is going to collapse and fail spectacularly, Extreme austerity always brings economic collapse, similar to the economic collapse under Trump during COVID.

 

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#325
Argentina under @JMilei sees first monthly budget surplus in 12 years: https://t.co/6pIQosTZUN

 

#326
This is hilarious. Argentine President Javier Milei meets Trump backstage at CPAC today and puts him in a bear hug as Trump tries his best to move back.


 

 

#327
BREAKING:Financial Times reports that President Milei is planning to organize a “South American Support Summit" for Ukraine later this year.He wants South America to start pitching in with North America and Europe in the effort to help Ukraine win the war with Russia🇦🇷🇺🇦

 

#329
42 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


I was not expecting this but I’m glad to see it.


he’s not following the maga way

#331
8 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

No he is not, but what can they really send/do?

Anything is better than republicans stateside? 🤷🏽‍♂️

#332
12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

No he is not, but what can they really send/do?

Chainsaws and chainsaw training 

#333

Nice to see the prosperity and its just so obvious that left wing politics is the answer, right echo chamber?!?!?!

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#335
48 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

No he is not, but what can they really send/do?

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Im sure those fellas fighting could use some encouragement 

#337

I'd attempt to capture a Russian tank using only a .22 rifle just for an introduction.

Thanks to @ryskey for chipping away at my granite block of ignorance about Argentina. 

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#338

Horrible idea …

Far-right Argentine president Javier Milei importing a terrible idea from the United States: adding a for-profit incentive to the incarceration of human beings by instituting privatized prisons.https://t.co/iaeWlxOwsV

 

#339

Interesting read 

 

Argentine president Javier Milei devalued the peso by 50%, causing inflation rates to skyrocket further. The cost of gas has doubled. Food and healthcare prices have risen by 50%. On the two-month mark of Milei’s presidency, annual inflation topped 250%.https://t.co/MfLQKUjFf7

 

#340
21 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Interesting read 

 

Argentine president Javier Milei devalued the peso by 50%, causing inflation rates to skyrocket further. The cost of gas has doubled. Food and healthcare prices have risen by 50%. On the two-month mark of Milei’s presidency, annual inflation topped 250%.https://t.co/MfLQKUjFf7

 

Isn’t 250% inflation about 400% below normal for them?

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#343

To be fair wrt fisting and Vaseline you really can’t mention one without the other 

#344
4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

To be fair wrt fisting and Vaseline you really can’t mention one without the other 

Only if you’re a coward.

#345
9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Reading that list of topics raises one question for me: what is Milei's Surly handle?

#346
20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Reading that list of topics raises one question for me: what is Milei's Surly handle?

BernOrange.

#348
10 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

To be fair wrt fisting and Vaseline you really can’t mention one without the other 

 

10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Only if you’re a coward.

 

Any sexual act that requires lubricants should use water based lubricants.

Anything else can lead to infection, inflammation, and irritation.

In addition, not using lubricants can lead to trauma to the areas affected which also leads to an increased risk of STI and potential injury.

 

Let's be safe, healthy, and consensual out there folks. There's only so many hours/minutes/seconds in a day to get your dick or lady parts wet (is it person parts now?)... savor every one of them.

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#349
12 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Are you Argentinian? Curious what your axe is to grind with this guy. 

#350
Just now, Boss Hogg said:

Are you Argentinian? Curious what your axe is to grind with this guy. 


closer than 99.99% of this board 

1. he’s an idiot

2. he’s hammering the Very poor / poor 

3. His vp is literally the daughter of evil

4. I'm curious who’s pulling is strings because his elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top

5. Im guessing he has no plan, just doing what he’s told / shooting from the hip 


 

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