December 3, 20232 yr Based purely on resume, FSU should be in. They aren't anywhere close to a top 4 team based on their current circumstances. Not even sure top 10.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, G650 said: Say what. Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, you're saying that you think FSU's spot would still be in question with the exact same resume, even if Travis was healthy?
December 3, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Vic Mackey said: Lousiville is a top 15 team because they play in the ACC. A shit ass conference that Clemson propped up for years now. They masked how bad it was. Also, if Lousiville is your 2nd best team in the ACC, shows how bad it was. They have a "top 20" offense because of ACC and a shit ass OOC schedule, which included the gauntlet of Murray State, Indiana and Kentucky. Lousiville makes Oklahoma State look like prime Bama. Spare me how battle tested FSU was because they won tonight. The one thing I learned watching that game, aggy made a horrible decision.
December 3, 20232 yr If the game last night was exactly the same but with their starter, how would that support the argument that they don’t deserve to get in with a backup? If you want to say they are out whether they have Travis or not, then that’s an argument that makes sense. Because Travis has 12 other games of heisman performances that most of us would give them a pass.You want to throw rodemaker or Glenn into the fire??
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, closetohumping said: If I were an FSU fan my argument would be we beat a top 15 team with our third string true freshman qb. We are undefeated and beat two sec teams. I’m not an fsu fan Sec with a losing record to the ACC this year also
December 3, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, Dbeasy said: I know everyone wants Michigan instead of Washington, but not me. Michigan's defensive front is scary good and will create havoc. Washington is good and well-coached, but I think vulnerable. They barely beat an over-rated Oregon team and the Pac10 looked great early in the year but as the season progressed seems over-rated. Texas can beat Washington. Texas can beat any of these teams.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, UTEX90 said: Teams will still be arguing but it will be the 10-15 seeds making their case. yep and playing that hard non conference game was a major mistake or a great idea
December 3, 20232 yr Just now, aggie08 said: Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, you're saying that you think FSU's spot would still be in question with the exact same resume, even if Travis was healthy? Yes. He would have them out regardless. I don’t agree but it’s at least an argument you can make.
December 3, 20232 yr Just now, aggie08 said: Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, you're saying that you think FSU's spot would still be in question with the exact same resume, even if Travis was healthy? If they played exactly the same game last night with Travis, that would mean they were an objectively worse team, unless you feel that the third string QB is equal to Travis.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Beau Vine said: Is this Chat? This thread is moving 100X faster than a game thread. yea but no missed holds
December 3, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said: The one thing I learned watching that game, aggy made a horrible decision. This was my entire argument against Elko. People were hyping wins against the Georgia Techs of the world thinking that was special because "Duke."
December 3, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, ApocalypseTexas said: At the end of day this is just another example of how the NCAA fucked something up. They have had years to get the playoffs right and did little to nothing to set a playoff format that eliminates speculation. This is wrong, The Universities did not want to give the NCAA a March Madness in football. The end.
December 3, 20232 yr Coaches poll has us tied with Bama at 4. Such bullshit. Edited December 3, 20232 yr by satyanash
December 3, 20232 yr Just now, G650 said: If they played exactly the same game last night with Travis, that would mean they were an objectively worse team, unless you feel that the third string QB is equal to Travis. That in no way answers the question. Would their spot be uncertain this morning with Travis?
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: Because Travis has 12 other games of heisman performances that most of us would give them a pass. You want to throw rodemaker or Glenn into the fire?? How do we know Rodemaker won’t come out and light it up? How do we know any of the other teams can even score on FSU. Cardale won a natty as 3rd string.
December 3, 20232 yr Just now, Rickylovesweed said: Those lines are moving because people are hitting them at the lower number. It is not because of some inside info.,
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, satyanash said: Coaches poll has us tied with Bama at 4. Such bullshit. They will all have us at 1 at the end of the season
December 3, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, G650 said: If they played exactly the same game last night with Travis, that would mean they were an objectively worse team, unless you feel that the third string QB is equal to Travis. This makes sense. 3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: Because Travis has 12 other games of heisman performances that most of us would give them a pass. You want to throw rodemaker or Glenn into the fire?? This does not.
December 3, 20232 yr 36 minutes ago, Macanudo said: This feels like Christmas 1977. I had asked my parents for a Millenium Falcon toy because Star Wars had rocked my world that year. And they didn't deliver. I got some lame knock off from Space :1999. This better not be like 1977. I wanted a Johnny 7 - One Man Army, and got a Screaming Mee-Mee. My son wanted a Jurassic Park Bull Rex, and they were nowhere to be found. Arnold's kid wanted a Turbo Man. Sucks as a kid. As a parent, you hear it every year. Sucks x 2.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, satyanash said: Coaches poll has us tied with Bama at 4. Such bullshit. That's fine. We have H2H
December 3, 20232 yr Just now, aggie08 said: That in no way answers the question. Would their spot be uncertain this morning with Travis? With the exact same result? Yes, I think absolutely it would be up in the air. You are conflating my take on FSUs worth vs what the committee will do, which aren't the same thing though. I'm not penalizing FSU for having a backup QB, I'm penalizing them because i don't think they are very good.
December 3, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, G650 said: If they played exactly the same game last night with Travis, that would mean they were an objectively worse team, unless you feel that the third string QB is equal to Travis. But you can’t judge FSU based on the 3rd string QB when we all know the 2nd stringer will be healthy. He’ll also get a month of reps.
December 3, 20232 yr Allstate Playoff Predictir odds to make playoffs:Florida State 97%Texas 55%Bama 42%Ohio State 4%Georgia 3%First off, any system that has any percentage for Ohio State or Georgia is severely flawed. They’re both out. Period.Also, how do you determine “Game Control”? Texas is #2 in that metric that is apparently a big measurement the committee looks at.
December 3, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, TonyTexas said: The ESPN announcement show is from 11am to 3pm. Will the CFP be revealed early on or will we be forced into a long, excruciating wait? CFP edging. How kinky.
December 3, 20232 yr That in no way answers the question. Would their spot be uncertain this morning with Travis?FSU not making it in with Travis healthy today has about as much of a chance as rodemaker or Glenn having fsu @ 13-0 without Jordan Travis playing a snap this season
December 3, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: The only argument against FSU involves ignoring the entire season. We have no idea how good they might be with a backup QB. We managed to win some games, against ranked teams, with a backup QB. If Quinn got hurt yesterday should we be out? We aren’t a top 4 team without Quinn. Quarterback is the most important position in football and it matters. And yes we would be out if Quinn had a season ending injury. I would’ve upset but I would get it. With that said, I hope fsu does get in with us as it would be an easier path to win it all.
December 3, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, satyanash said: Coaches poll has us tied with Bama at 4. Such bullshit. Hopefully we can figure out a good tiebreaker for that tie…
December 3, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: Lol, proof the computers are trash and the BCS was terrible.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Horn80 said: Can’t wait to see Finebaum raging. Can you imagine the shitshow the Finebaum Show will be on Monday if Bama gets left out? Edited December 3, 20232 yr by UTEX90
December 3, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: Sec with a losing record to the ACC this year also And I’d point to everyone else’s ugly ass losses too
December 3, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, TexasGolf said: Head to head all that matters. quinn better now than September just like milroe Quinn plays best in the big games won on the road. Not a neutral sight Thanks. Fortunately he must not have seen the OU game.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, G650 said: I'm not penalizing FSU for having a backup QB, I'm penalizing them because i don't think they are very good. 1 minute ago, B00M said: But you can’t judge FSU based on the 3rd string QB when we all know the 2nd stringer will be healthy. He’ll also get a month of reps.
December 3, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, PTINS said: I wanted a Johnny 7 - One Man Army, and got a Screaming Mee-Mee. My son wanted a Jurassic Park Bull Rex, and they were nowhere to be found. Arnold's kid wanted a Turbo Man. Sucks as a kid. As a parent, you hear it every year. Sucks x 2. One of my cousins got the Millenium Falcon and my aunt told me and my mom that she bought it like 4 days before Christmas and there were still a few on the shelves.
December 3, 20232 yr If we were undefeated and just won our conference title game with our 3rd string qb we would be wanting credit for that and feeling deserved to be in the playoffs.
December 3, 20232 yr This does not.How does it not? I provided like 11 games of Travis completely outplaying his back ups. FSU isn’t the same team without Travis and it makes no sense you want to waste a top 4 spot to prove that
December 3, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said: Lol, proof the computers are trash and the BCS was terrible. To be fair, the BCS computers formulated the same 4 playoff teams the committee did every year. This seems like the only year that they won't.
December 3, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: How do we know Rodemaker won’t come out and light it up? How do we know any of the other teams can even score on FSU. Cardale won a natty as 3rd string. Cardale put up 59 points on Wisconsin in the big 10 title game. FSU’s backups struggled mightily against really shitty teams.
December 3, 20232 yr If we were undefeated and just won our conference title game with our 3rd string qb we would be wanting credit for that and feeling deserved to be in the playoffs.Yea our third string is arch manning lol
December 3, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said: Lol, proof the computers are trash and the BCS was terrible. BCS always sucked when it came to head-to-head. In 2000, one-loss Washington beat one-loss Miami, who beat one-loss Florida State. Final BCS rankings were #2 FSU, #3 Miami, and #4 Washington.
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