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#51
On 1/15/2024 at 2:49 PM, Jive Turkey said:

Fuck this east coast prick. 

https://t.co/wyZiEi1FAV

 

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#52

Happy Beltre got in. I know he will go in as a Ranger but I loved him when he was playing for the Sox. Just don't touch his head.

 

Edited by InkaUtexas

#54
21 minutes ago, WBT said:

Except for the David Wright vote

Eh- I mostly meant the column. His point was Wright is a guy good enough to be on the ballot longer than 1 year and I agree with him there. 

#55

Wow.  Some surprises on there.  Wagner deserved better.  congrats to Mauer.  vizquel's omission continues to be bullshit.  But some of those guys that won't make another ballot, I'd have thought they'd last a few years or so.  But as Augie kept telling us, the game is a cruel, fucking bitch.  

#56
On 11/21/2023 at 10:13 AM, UTPhil2006 said:

If Wagner doesn’t get in this year we riot 

Better get the riot gear.

#58
Friendly reminder that Todd Helton started at QB at Tennessee over Peyton Manning


 

 

#59
4 hours ago, WBT said:

Wagner 5 votes short

 

3 hours ago, msbesq said:

BW got screwed

 

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

Wagner deserved better.

In the immortal words of Crash Davis.  Fuck this fucking game!  
 

Absolute bullshit from BBWA.  

#60
Three writers voted for Billy Wagner in 2023 but not in 2024. Two "writers" sent in ballots with only Manny and ARod on them. The pitcher with the most ever strikeouts by a left-handed reliever and fourth most all-time missed the Hall of Fame by 5 votes in his 9th try. Brutal.

 

#61

Todd Helton’s case when you look at other 1B is pretty unassailable. Advanced stats love him, he played very good defense, and he’s never been connected to roids which means something to the voters. 

#62
12 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Better get the riot gear.

I still have mine from when Biggio was shorted by 2 votes 

#63
12 hours ago, YGIFS said:

 vizquel's omission continues to be bullshit. 

Vizquel would be the worst SS in the Hall by JAWS. He doesn’t belong. He’s not even the most deserving SS on the current ballot-that’s Jimmy Rollins, and he’s probably not ever getting in.

#64
On 12/29/2023 at 10:14 PM, shadow_operative said:
16 Hall of Fame voters left Greg Maddux off of their ballot and quite frankly they should have all lost their right to vote.

 

Larry Rocca's rationale (via @ChrisCotillo)

 

Get ready for several of these clowns to leave Ichiro off of their ballots next year. 

#65

If Billy Wagner was a Yankee, he would have entered the HoF in his first or second year of eligibility. Total BS.

#66
8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:
Three writers voted for Billy Wagner in 2023 but not in 2024. Two "writers" sent in ballots with only Manny and ARod on them. The pitcher with the most ever strikeouts by a left-handed reliever and fourth most all-time missed the Hall of Fame by 5 votes in his 9th try. Brutal.

 

What's the rationale for voting yes in 23 and no in 24? There was no BW news over the past year which makes his career look worse. Of course, he'd still be two short in that scenario.

#67
2 hours ago, n64ra said:

What's the rationale for voting yes in 23 and no in 24? There was no BW news over the past year which makes his career look worse. Of course, he'd still be two short in that scenario.

You can only vote for 10 and there wre some good first timers on the ballot

#68
2 hours ago, n64ra said:

If Billy Wagner was a Yankee, he would have entered the HoF in his first or second year of eligibility. Total BS.

None of the 5 BBWAA members from the NY Post had Wagner on their ballot. 

Edited by TonyTexas

#69
55 minutes ago, WBT said:

You can only vote for 10 and there wre some good first timers on the ballot

Yeah- I'm in team Billy Wagner shouldn't be in the Hall because relief pitchers are still pitchers and it's a subset of guys not good enough to start games and thus 35% as valuable as a starter- but if you are going to have 8 closers in there then Billy Wagner damn sure should be the 9th.  

That ballot was pretty stacked. I could see him being 11th on a couple guys ballots.  Or maybe they just fucked up checking the boxes.  They are humans and baseball writers so on some level they are morons, mostly. 

#71
20 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Yeah- I'm in team Billy Wagner shouldn't be in the Hall because relief pitchers are still pitchers and it's a subset of guys not good enough to start games and thus 35% as valuable as a starter- but if you are going to have 8 closers in there then Billy Wagner damn sure should be the 9th.  

That ballot was pretty stacked. I could see him being 11th on a couple guys ballots.  Or maybe they just fucked up checking the boxes.  They are humans and baseball writers so on some level they are morons, mostly. 

Yea. 6th most saves all time and there are already 8 closers in the HoF - not to mention that he did it in 95 to 266 less appearances than the 5th guys with more saves.

#72
56 minutes ago, n64ra said:

Yea. 6th most saves all time and there are already 8 closers in the HoF - not to mention that he did it in 95 to 266 less appearances than the 5th guys with more saves.

All his rate stats are awesome too. 

#73
Benito Santiago had more homers, more RBIs and the same number of Gold Gloves as Joe Mauer. He was also way cooler and would throw you out from his knees.

 

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#74
2 hours ago, shadow_operative said:
Benito Santiago had more homers, more RBIs and the same number of Gold Gloves as Joe Mauer. He was also way cooler and would throw you out from his knees.

 

Oh, sure...they're practically identical:

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#76
On 1/26/2024 at 8:38 AM, Beau Vine said:

Oh, sure...they're practically identical:

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Not saying Santiago was a better overall player but people forget that Mayer gets a lot of “bonus points” for hitting so well as a Catcher.  When in fact he literally played half his career as a DH or 1B, where his type of production was actually sub-HOF. 

#77
On 2/3/2024 at 5:13 AM, YGIFS said:

Not saying Santiago was a better overall player but people forget that Mayer gets a lot of “bonus points” for hitting so well as a Catcher.  When in fact he literally played half his career as a DH or 1B, where his type of production was actually sub-HOF. 

Nobody forgets that. It’s why his WAR was so much higher before he transitioned to 1B. You can remove all his season from 2014 on and he still easily has more than Santiago.

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