May 20, 20196 yr Did bran know the night King was after him? If so, he let thousands die for him. Was Bran really a good guy? Or just a manipulator like Tyrion and Sansa? Interesting how they are looked at as the victims, but ended up as the master manipulator the last two seasons. So nothing changed. Looking from the outside, that makes the night King look like the Good guy.
May 20, 20196 yr My summary “You freed your brother.” “You murdered a city.” “You must choose! Now!” “You will always be my queen, but damn, that shit was cold.” “Ughhhhhhhh.”. ”Why do you think I’ve come all this way?” “I’ve been wondering that for awhile now.” “Me, too.” “I thought there was a cripple quota or something” “You will be my hand!” “No, I couldn’t possibly..” “Fine, my second choice will be..”. “But if you insist! Yes, I will be hand!” ”The north is going to SECede! Fuck you and your dragon network!” ”Lord Bran, there is no clean water...” “warging” “our coffers our empty...” “Warging!” “and poop has replaced the blood flowing through the streets!” “WARGING!” “What’s west of Westeros?” “Uh, prolly Easteros if you go far enough.” “TO EASTEROS THEN!” ”Tormund!” “Jon! I heard you killed your old lady.” “Yep, bitch went fucking loco. Mind if my dog and I crash on your sofa for awhile?” “Sure, dude.” “Got any beer?”
May 20, 20196 yr It was just....boring. Tyrion has a knack for totally killing every scene he’s in with droning on and on. 😴
May 20, 20196 yr 59 minutes ago, HenryJames said: "Hey Daenerys, you just dropped your mixtape on an entire city, but not everyone is a fan. Maybe we should turn on the ADT?" "Nah, it's fine." Jon Snow was the only person on the planet who was getting past the dragon.
May 20, 20196 yr My dad, 67, asked if I watched the show this morningMe:yea but the finale suckedHim without a care in the world about this show: whyMe in 4 sentences was able to sum up brans entire existence: well this boy climbed up a tower and saw a brother and sister having sex. Brother pushed boy off and he became paralyzed. Boy goes off to become smart and be able to read the future, see into the past. Boy becomes king after not doing anything else in 8 seasons.
May 20, 20196 yr A friend of mine said he had read spoilers last week that were spot on with last night. Except spoilers had said when Jon rides north of the wall there would be a camera shot of the Night King’s “sigil” spiral laid out fresh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
May 20, 20196 yr Just now, Lat22 said: Jon Snow was the only person on the planet who was getting past the dragon. Yeah, only the biggest potential threat in the world to her queendom, as Tyrion explained 5 minutes before that.
May 20, 20196 yr Everything after Dany dies was as awkward as watching the Jon Favreau answering machine scene in "Swingers"
May 20, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said: My dad, 67, asked if I watched the show this morning Me:yea but the finale sucked Him without a care in the world about this show: why Me in 4 sentences was able to sum up brans entire existence: well this boy climbed up a tower and saw a brother and sister having sex. Brother pushed boy off and he became paralyzed. Boy goes off to become smart and be able to read the future, see into the past. Boy becomes king after not doing anything else in 8 seasons. And he can warg. "what's that good for?" Apparently nothing....
May 20, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, utxmike05 said: A friend of mine said he had read spoilers last week that were spot on with last night. Except spoilers had said when Jon rides north of the wall there would be a camera shot of the Night King’s “sigil” spiral laid out fresh. I wondered about this as well.
May 20, 20196 yr I'm going to run out of rep. Memes/social media are killing D&D. I'd love to see their inbox
May 20, 20196 yr 10 minutes ago, BabaYaga said: And he can warg. "what's that good for?" Apparently nothing.... So what you're saying is... WARG! HUH! YEAH! What is it good for?! Absolutely nothing! Say it again, why'all!
May 20, 20196 yr Perhaps Jon needed to kill Daenerys to save Westeros. Perhaps Jon needed to know he was a Targaryan to get past Drogon to kill Daenerys. Perhaps the only way Jon would find out he was a Targaryan was through Bran’s powers. Perhaps Bran doesn’t get his powers unless Jaime pushes him out the window. Perhaps Jaime isn’t at Winterfell unless Jon Ayrrn is murdered by Littlefinger. Edited May 20, 20196 yr by Hugo Stiglitz
May 20, 20196 yr I'd personally have liked it better if Drogon had let Jon get on, and they all fly away.
May 20, 20196 yr I found it adequate when considering the Magic 8-Ball has been screaming "Signs point to Shitshow" all season (and really since the accelerated ending was decided upon.) We watch with subtitles on, and even the closed captioners phoned it in during Tyrion's "Jar Jar at the Galactic Senate" scene - Man 1: Aye. Man 2: Aye. Man 3: [dramatic pause] Aye. Fucking "Man 1-3"?!
May 20, 20196 yr I'd personally have liked it better if Drogon had let Jon get on, and they all fly away. "Up up and awayyyy in our beautiful balloooooon..."
May 20, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, alincoln said: I'm just going to pretend that the series ended on a cliffhanger with Drogon flying away towards the horizon after melting the iron throne. The remainder of the episode was the worst television relative to expectations I have personally experienced. You had high expectations for that episode after watching the first seven of this season?
May 20, 20196 yr Yeah that was weird. I think there's a way that they could have gotten to a point where the ending for these characters made sense, but they needed a full real season of 10 episodes to build up this particular narrative. It's like they got George Lucas prequel-itis where they were more concerned with putting together these massive set piece battles that were pretty damn incredible, but they sacrificed story/narrative for it.
May 20, 20196 yr Can't wait to see all the emails, reports, tweets, from heads of HR telling workers not to call their wheelchair bound co-workers <name> the Broken.
May 20, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said: Was "Bran the Broken" ever a thing on the show before last night? I don't recall. No, only the show was broken.
May 20, 20196 yr The least realistic element of the finale was that after Jaime played with her emotions, hit it and then quit it, Brienne wouldn't trash him in the Kingsguard log. There were clearly no women in that writer's room.
May 20, 20196 yr Can't wait to see all the emails, reports, tweets, from heads of HR telling workers not to call their wheelchair bound co-workers the Broken.Just like the odds told me that somewhere out there is a black chick named Beth Page, I’m pretty sure there’s some dude in a wheelchair named Bran who’s life just got fucked up a little bit more.
May 20, 20196 yr Had two people at the watch party who had never seen an episode before...both (female) said they would never watch another episode and not sure why any of us would watch that boring show. Sure the finale doesn't represent the entire series, but still....
May 20, 20196 yr What kind of doofus watches only the series finale? I have a low opinion of your friends, Mike. Edited May 20, 20196 yr by Prepuce of Doom
May 20, 20196 yr 16 minutes ago, LonghornJudas said: Can't wait to see all the emails, reports, tweets, from heads of HR telling workers not to call their wheelchair bound co-workers <name> the Broken. Hahaahahahahaha, that is hilarious.
May 20, 20196 yr 14 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said: The least realistic element of the finale was that after Jaime played with her emotions, hit it and then quit it, Brienne wouldn't trash him in the Kingsguard log. There were clearly no women in that writer's room. Between that and Sansa basically saying she needed to be raped to be the person she was, it was quite clear there were no women on the writing team.
May 20, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, d2o said: Between that and Sansa basically saying she needed to be raped to be the person she was, it was quite clear there were no women on the writing team. yeah, it's weird, because martin managed to create great female characters that the show simply could not handle. very glaring.
May 20, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, aggie08 said: The Wall was blown open at Eastwatch, not Castle Black. But yeah, no idea why the Night's Watch is still a thing. Gotta send bastards and criminals somewhere I guess. Only thing I can think of is that, IIRC, the wall was against the wildlings/freefolk, not the Night King and his minions. Granted some (all? does Tormund represent all wildlings?) wildlings are now allies, but I guess for how long? And, even if there aren't express enemies north of the wall, I suppose it makes some sense to have a presence at the northern "border." /end Trump Of course all of the foregoing assumes that any of this makes any sense. Which seems to be a poor assumption.
May 20, 20196 yr The random council at the end that appointed Bran just made no sense. For centuries the throne was won either through lineage or major blood, and then all of a sudden, this council, who had no authority that I could determine, just up and picks a king? And everyone is supposed to accept it? That, to me, was the biggest failing of the entire season.
May 20, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: The random council at the end that appointed Bran just made no sense. For centuries the throne was won either through lineage or major blood, and then all of a sudden, this council, who had no authority that I could determine, just up and picks a king? And everyone is supposed to accept it? That, to me, was the biggest failing of the entire season. I thought they were the leaders of the individual kingdoms but then why in the hell were Samwell and Davos there
May 20, 20196 yr Also that Scientific American article cited upthread I think really nailed it. It's not just poor writing, it was the shift from the group dynamic (sociological perspective) to the individual (psychological perspective) that ruined it.
May 20, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, d2o said: I thought they were the leaders of the individual kingdoms but then why in the hell were Samwell and Davos there That's what I mean. Some of them were, but Arya, Sam, Davos, Brienne, what did they have to do with anything?
May 20, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: The random council at the end that appointed Bran just made no sense. For centuries the throne was won either through lineage or major blood, and then all of a sudden, this council, who had no authority that I could determine, just up and picks a king? And everyone is supposed to accept it? That, to me, was the biggest failing of the entire season. They're the leaders of the houses of the seven kingdoms and they're trying to figure out what's next. What was glaring to me is that when they panned around it was like holy shit all of these people except for Sansa, Arya and Yara are useless. Arya has no place in Westeros, that's what her arc has been about. Yara really wants to just fight, drink and munch clam. Sansa was the only left who was a reasonable choice to be ruler of the seven kingdoms. I thought it was jarring, but not for the reasons you did.
May 20, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Sbbruin said: That's what I mean. Some of them were, but Arya, Sam, Davos, Brienne, what did they have to do with anything? I imagine they were there as advisors to the leaders of the seven kingdoms. Sam was represent the order of maesters who had provided council to the lords of the Seven Kingdoms in the past.
May 20, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: That's what I mean. Some of them were, but Arya, Sam, Davos, Brienne, what did they have to do with anything? A great example of the shift from sociological (the kingdoms, the houses) to the individual. And, of course, by this time, because of the narrative shift, we've lost all sight of the various kingdoms and houses. Edited May 20, 20196 yr by TwiceHorn
May 20, 20196 yr I thought the finale was pretty disappointing, even though I expected it to somewhat go that way. I expected Dany to die, but her death scene felt very hollow. No build up, no parting words from her, no immediate reactions of any characters except Jon... then Drogon carries her off and we get a small time jump. I say all of that as someone who was completely fine with Cersei's death scene. The scene with Dany felt too quick and too easy. I expected the North to remain separate and Sansa to take control, and that's what happened. I did not expect Bran to become king which is frustrating because his character was worthless and then suddenly he is voted king. He doesn't even consider himself Brandon Stark anymore. I suppose his Three Eyed Raven duties are no longer important? I did not expect Jon to go back to the Night's Watch. Not sure why Bran couldn't simply pardon him and tell Grey Worm to piss off. They pardoned Tyrion without any trouble. Like many others, I'm not sure why the Night's Watch even exists at this point. Doesn't really matter than much because I'm sure Jon is happier up north with Ghost and Tormund than he would be anywhere near King's Landing. I would've liked to see some small hint that a White Walker threat still exists, but that's the twisted side of me that likes Inception style endings. Oh well, despite the recent shortcomings, I will miss the hell out of this show. Even bad Game of Thrones is still more fun than 98% of other stuff on TV.
May 20, 20196 yr Brienne is the last of House Tarth and Sam is the last male heir to House Tarly. Davos admitted he was sure he got a vote. Arya is just a bad ass, although she didn't vote.
May 20, 20196 yr 13 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: The random council at the end that appointed Bran just made no sense. For centuries the throne was won either through lineage or major blood, and then all of a sudden, this council, who had no authority that I could determine, just up and picks a king? And everyone is supposed to accept it? That, to me, was the biggest failing of the entire season. I hear ya but there is a point to be made that nearly the entire seven kingdoms, including the great houses were wiped out, and the only people left standing were a bunch of second rate bastards, clowns, sellswords, and the Starks. One Lannister One Greyjoy One Tully One Baratheon One Arryn One Tarly One Payne One Tarth Three Starks Zero Tyrells Zero Freys Zero Martells Zero Boltons Zero Cleganes Zero Mormonts Zero Targaryans Maybe it was time to throw out the old way of running things. Edited May 20, 20196 yr by Hugo Stiglitz
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