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Joe Biden 2024 thread - Dark Brandon Where Art Thou?

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51 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Jesus Christ. The MAGATs and GOP'ers in my networks have seized on this so-called "red meat." What a disaster. Bill Barr never would've let something like this happen. When will Democrats learn that "doing the 'right' thing all the time" rarely pays off in the world of US politics. One side is relentless and ruthless. The other is populated by total pussies.

I have to wonder, did Garland and his team read the damn thing before it was released?

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57 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Bill Barr never would've let something like this happen.

Correct. Garland should have done a press conference giving his own view of the SC's findings and then sat on the report for a week or so until people saw something else shiny and moved on.

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There are hundreds, maybe even one thousand Americans who can name the Egyptian president. The man is making a clear point about countries that need humanitarian solutions and just had a major bill blocked because of ongoing Mexico border issues. If anything he has too many thoughts going on in his head.
 

1 minute ago, The Royal We said:

Correct. Garland should have done a press conference giving his own view of the SC's findings and then sat on the report for a week or so until people saw something else shiny and moved on.

Taylor Swift will be the shiny object in 3 days. 

Just now, The Royal We said:

Correct. Garland should have done a press conference giving his own view of the SC's findings and then sat on the report for a week or so until people saw something else shiny and moved on.

Or redacted all the shit that the MAGATs have pounced on like Barr did. It would've eliminated the need for the disastrous WH presser that was thrown together last night.

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Taylor Swift will be the shiny object in 3 days. 

"But her emails!"

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Nobody will remember that press conference come Monday with the Super Bowl coming up.

Meanwhile, just put Joe on ice till the general and watch Trump light himself on fire.

22 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Nobody will remember that press conference come Monday with the Super Bowl coming up.

Meanwhile, just put Joe on ice till the general and watch Trump light himself on fire.

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36 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Nobody will remember that press conference come Monday with the Super Bowl coming up.

Meanwhile, just put Joe on ice till the general and watch Trump light himself on fire.

That's great and all, but he's going to have to campaign and debate. 

Trump won’t debate him 

Have him out and about with the public but do not, under any circumstances, let the man debate.

This will not go away. It was already a main talking point that registers with people. Not it is “written” by someone and it will be used again and again and every time Biden does one of his typical gaffes.

Republicans know how to message.

Democrats know how to step on their own dicks. Over and over.

Fuck CNN is even making a huge issue of this.

Trump drives ratings and that is what is going to matter. Journalism is dead.

3 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Fuck CNN is even making a huge issue of this.

No shit they are. "Do the comments in Biden's exoneration completely nullify all of Trump's legal issues? We'll discuss, next." 

Back in the 2020 primary I’m sure there were some folks claiming on here Biden would likely only serve one term…Which was as laughable then as it is now, but it was a nice way to kick the can on Biden’s most glaring shortcoming.  

they should have him do the Willie Wonka thing where he slowly walks out and limps while holding a cane and then toss it to the side and do a little roll and dance

24 minutes ago, Red Five said:

You can't hide him for nine months. That's a great way to lose. 

it worked for Joe in 2020 and worked for Katie Hobbs.

I thought Joe not traveling in 2020 would be his campaign downfall.  

Trump not debating seems to be working like a charm.

 

Seems a bit like conventional campaign wisdom is not so wise.

 

I also thought Hillary was a lock in 16. so I am not a great election prognosticator.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

it worked for Joe in 2020

Conditions were slightly different then, in the middle of a pandemic. 

5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Conditions were slightly different then, in the middle of a pandemic. 

acknowledged.

Trump would likely do the above referenced, "light himself on fire" if not given the counter point of Joe campaigning in the late summer/fall.  Certainly an isolation strategy would be a HUGE risk.

Frankly I could see, "He's beneath me" as a strategy.   Joe would get heat for it from the media who need the clicks.

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32 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Have him out and about with the public but do not, under any circumstances, let the man debate.

I mean, that's true of both of them. Against any other candidate he would be a liability but against Donald Trump it's a layup. I have little doubt Biden would be considered a decisive winner in public polls and in media analysis just as he was in 2020, but debates have been definitively proven to not matter at all anyway. They are poo flinging contests.

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Hobbs not debating Lake because she’s a comfortable liar with TV experience was the right move.

Trump showing up to a debate with Covid was spot on and made Biden’s isolation completely warranted as well

Just now, gmr548 said:

They are poo flinging contests.

IMPO the debates were losses for Trump.  Precisely because he wouldn't shut up at all and the, "will you shut up, man" was pretty perfect.

8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

I may have mentioned this, but pass this around as a debate to people you know.  Some will get it, others will wonder how two olds can debate 24/7.

https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024

lmao this is awesome

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

IMPO the debates were losses for Trump.  Precisely because he wouldn't shut up at all and the, "will you shut up, man" was pretty perfect.

They were considered losses by Trump by huge margins in public polling in both 2020 and 2016. My contention is that means fuck all.

Just went to Jim's for lunch. Table of about eight old men next to me. Is it sad that my first thought was about how they are going to do nothing but talk politics and bitch about Biden?

Actually they just kind of chit-chatted with each other in groups of two or three about nothing in particular until one guy decided to talk to the guy all the way across the table from him. They were talking about an upcoming church service, but the guy who started the conversation had to shoehorn in a couple of Joe Biden quips that of course didn't really tie in with the conversation at all. The other guy just ignored them.

Funny thing is that these guys were all in the ballpark of Biden's age but don't seem to have any qualms working in jokes about how old/senile they think he is. Oh, and Joe Biden was pronounced exactly like you think it was by this guy -- "Joe BUY-dun"

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

there won't be debates.

I'll believe it when I see it. 

Just now, David Dennison said:

I'll believe it when I see it. 

Texas State has raised about a million dollars thusfar to host the debate later this year.  And have internally started inquiring about how to legally give it back.  There are not going to be any debates.  

It's okay, the fat guy dies in the Autumn.  

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Texas State has raised about a million dollars thusfar to host the debate later this year.  And have internally started inquiring about how to legally give it back.  There are not going to be any debates.  

It's okay, the fat guy dies in the Autumn.  

If there are no debates, I think that helps Joe Biden.

Just now, troph said:

I've never found Trump to be coherent or knowledgeable.

IOKIYAR

11 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

but the guy who started the conversation had to shoehorn in a couple of Joe Biden quips that of course didn't really tie in with the conversation at all.

Standard. 

"Hey did you see the game last night?"

"Yeah, that Biden sure is a moron."

"um what"

Ultimately anyone that was anti-Biden will still be anti-Biden post this report. I don't see this swaying anyone one way or the other. I just think we should put Trump & Biden in inflatable sumo suits at this point and have them have a pugil stick battle vs a debate. PPV would be through the roof.

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

IOKIYAR

That's a new one to me.

21 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

IOKIYAR

I had some speakers made by them in my dorm Sophomore year.  

19 minutes ago, safe sex said:

That's a new one to me.

The first time I saw it was at the Great Orange Satan/ aka Daily Kos.

39 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Ultimately anyone that was anti-Biden will still be anti-Biden post this report. I don't see this swaying anyone one way or the other. I just think we should put Trump & Biden in inflatable sumo suits at this point and have them have a pugil stick battle vs a debate. PPV would be through the roof.

I'm all for this as I'm quite sure Biden will win. But, I recommend replacing the pugil sticks with spears. 

Zero value add from Biden campaigning or debating. 

People are showing up to vote against Trump, not for Biden specifically. 

Imagine how much it must suck to be Joe Biden.  Dude comes out of retirement to save America from a Kremlin puppet and the GOP nominates that same asshole again.  You can see how this might complicates things for Biden… he almost has to run because if he doesn’t and Trump wins, he would probably feel responsible… and if he does run and Trump wins, he would also feel responsible.  On top of that, there’s a major war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East is an ongoing disaster. Biden must have done some bad shit in a previous life to deserve this level of stress at the spry age of 81. 

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Imagine how much it must suck to be Joe Biden.  Dude comes out of retirement to save America from a Kremlin puppet and the GOP nominates that same asshole again.  You can see how this might complicates things for Biden… he almost has to run because if he doesn’t and Trump wins, he would probably feel responsible… and if he does run and Trump wins, he would also feel responsible.  On top of that, there’s a major war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East is an ongoing disaster. Biden must have done some bad shit in a previous life to deserve this level of stress at the spry age of 81. 

And he's going to have to work until he's 86

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And he's going to have to work until he's 86

technically, once he’s done the job of beating Trump and been inaugaurated again, he can step down. He’s not required to finish his term and America would understand if he didn’t. 

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19 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Imagine how much it must suck to be Joe Biden.  Dude comes out of retirement to save America from a Kremlin puppet and the GOP nominates that same asshole again.  You can see how this might complicates things for Biden… he almost has to run because if he doesn’t and Trump wins, he would probably feel responsible… and if he does run and Trump wins, he would also feel responsible.  On top of that, there’s a major war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East is an ongoing disaster. Biden must have done some bad shit in a previous life to deserve this level of stress at the spry age of 81. 

i blame the D bench.  it isn't shallow -- its nonexistent

5 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

i blame the D bench.  it isn't shallow -- its nonexistent

That’s wholly untrue but okay

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That’s wholly untrue but okay

No shit, if the D bench is non-existent -- what do you say about the Republicans?

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