November 15, 20241 yr Looks like they’re playing in a concrete underpass or drainage ditch with some cheap green turf rolled into it
November 15, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Ted Lange said: I missed it, I guess Johnny got injured? He may have pulled his pão de quiejo. EDIT: Tessman kicks a ball to the moon and looked like he hit it into the ground first, but the bozo providing color commentary then says that he looked “fluid & clean.” WTF? Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Napoleon
November 15, 20241 yr Author We need to be careful. There is no reason we should be baited into anything here.
November 15, 20241 yr This is a much more spirited effort from the USMNT than we have seen in a good while.
November 15, 20241 yr I fell asleep and missed halftime and the first 17 minutes of the 2nd half. Shocking considering how exciting this has been. If you want to see real exciting soccer, I present to you…
November 15, 20241 yr i really would like to get that 2nd goal just to prove the fucking point firsttimethatbitch!
November 15, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, VinyVango said: Looks like they’re playing in a concrete underpass or drainage ditch with some cheap green turf rolled into it That's an insult to concrete underpasses and drainage ditches. 15 minutes ago, Ted Lange said: Like seeing the team finally stand up for Pulisic You know this is what leads to this: 15 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said: When did Jamaica turn into bigger cocksuckers than Mexico? When we played soft GGG ball, the MO for teams was to beat the shit out of our players, especially CP10, because we weren't going to stand up for our players. In this confederation you can't do that. You need some Marty McSorley types out there willing to throw down. Poch wants more of this Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Captain Ron #BringBackTheWaldo
November 15, 20241 yr Author 5 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said: Is it just me or is this field oddly narrow? I think it's how low the stands are and how that angle makes the field look - because this is a full size 105 x 68 field. Add in how wide the sides are (track + the velodrome). Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Captain Ron
November 15, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Captain Ron said: I think it's how low the stands are and how that angle makes the field look - because this is a full size 105 x 68 field. Add in how wide the sides are (track + the velodrome). I guess. I'm just looking at the space between the penalty area and the sideline. Seems smallish.
November 15, 20241 yr Have to say, this was not pretty, even for scary for a few minutes, but we absolutely clamped them down the last 20 minutes.
November 15, 20241 yr Stolen from big soccer: We have 4 away wins in the last 11 years and 2 of those were against Grenada and St. Vincent and The Grenadines. That's a great win! Even if it wasn't pretty, a win was never gonna be Is this actually true?
November 15, 20241 yr Author 11 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said: Stolen from big soccer: We have 4 away wins in the last 11 years and 2 of those were against Grenada and St. Vincent and The Grenadines. That's a great win! Even if it wasn't pretty, a win was never gonna be Is this actually true? you can look it up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_soccer_team_results My gut says no, because I have 2 away wins for 2021 below. But I could be wrong. The biggest issue is that in the GGG era mainly, we prioritized home games over getting better, so our schedule looks a lot like this: 22 games, 7 not on US Soil and only 4 of those were competitive games.
November 15, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Captain Ron said: you can look it up - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_soccer_team_results My gut says no, because I have 2 away wins for 2021 below. But I could be wrong. The biggest issue is that in the GGG era mainly, we prioritized home games over getting better, so our schedule looks a lot like this: 22 games, 7 not on US Soil and only 4 of those were competitive games. That stat might have been for competitive matches.
November 15, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, VinyVango said: Looks like they’re playing in a concrete underpass or drainage ditch with some cheap green turf rolled into it I was thinking it looked like they were running in sand that was sprayed with green dye and with an under inflated ball. Still, a win is a win.
November 15, 20241 yr I feel like the field conditions actually favored the US. Feels like it totally took away the quick counter.
November 15, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, TrashMaster G said: I guess. I'm just looking at the space between the penalty area and the sideline. Seems smallish. Thought the same thing
November 15, 20241 yr I said I would be neutral with a 2-1 win but after seeing that pitch, holy hell, I'll take 1-0 and be happy about it. It looked like the ball was dragging an anchor all day.
November 15, 20241 yr 130607 jamaica (wcq) 140616 ghana (wc) 140903 czech (f) 150605 nederland (f) 150610 deutschland (f) 160522 puertorico (f) 160902 sainvincent&gren (wcq) 161007 cuba (f) 191119 cuba (nl) 210328 northern eire (f) 210908 honduras (wcq) 230324 grenada (nl) 241114 jamaica (nl) did not include rona friendly win over panama in austria 7 full internationals 6 friendlies so 7 or 13 depending on the question
November 15, 20241 yr 130607 jamaica (wcq) 140616 ghana (wc) 140903 czech (f) 150605 nederland (f) 150610 deutschland (f) 160522 puertorico (f) 160902 sainvincent&gren (wcq) 161007 cuba (f) 191119 cuba (nl) 210328 northern eire (f) 210908 honduras (wcq) 221129 iran (wc) 230324 grenada (nl) 241114 jamaica (nl) did not include rona friendly win over panama in austria i consider world cup wins as away wins 8 full internationals 6 friendlies so 8 or 14 depending on the question
November 15, 20241 yr fucking editor won't let me delete the first post which is wrong (did not include iran win)
November 15, 20241 yr Spoiler soccer america By Mike Woitalla November 15, 2024 JAMAICA-USA EXPRESS: Nov. 14 in Kingston Jamaica 0 USA 1. Goals: Pepi 5. Att.: 25,000. Not easy on the eye was the soccer played on Jamaica National Stadium grass that looked like it had hosted a rodeo. Fortunately for the USA, Christian Pulisic and Ricardo Pepi navigated the divets to provide a 1-0 win in the Concacaf Nations League first-leg quarterfinal. Matt Turner. (Concacaf.com) Matt Turner. (Concacaf.com) USA Player Ratings (1=low; 5=middle; 10=high.) GOALKEEPER Matt Turner's mis-timed dive took down Shamar Nicholson. But Turner saved the 16th-minute penalty kick by Demarai Gray to keep the USA ahead. He punched away a cross from Gray the only other time Jamaica threatened in the first half. Turner coped well with back passes on the bumpy field and made a spectacular save on a Leon Bailey's corner kick that was curving into the goal by the near post. In the 75th minute, he headed clear a through-ball 10 yards outside the penalty area to prevent Romario Williams from getting a shot off goalkeeper Andre Blake's sidewinder punt. Player (Club) caps/goals (age) 6 Matt Turner (Crystal Palace/ENG) 48/0 (30) DEFENDERS Right back Joe Scally's intercepted pass led to the Jamaican attack that ended with Turner's penalty-kick foul. A few minutes later, he committed a needless foul in Jamaica's half. Left back Antonee Robinson in the 7th minute squandered the USA's best chance to make it 2-0 when Pulisic sent him through for a one-on-one with Blake. He was beaten by Bailey when Mason Holgate nearly scored. Mark McKenzie allowed Demarai Gray to send in the dangerous cross that Turner punched to safety and couldn't stop the charging Nicholson on the penalty for Jamaica, but otherwise he played flawlessly. He smoothly stepped in front of Nicholson to prevent a close-range shot and blocked Nicholson's effort when he did pull the trigger moments later. In stoppage time, McKenzie pulled off an overhead clearance on a through ball to Williams. McKenzie and his composed central partner Tim Ream, aided by a host of defensive midfielders, limited the Reggae Boyz to one shot besides the saved penalty kick. On the penalty, Nicholson roasted Ream. Player (Club) caps/goals (age) 4 Joe Scally (Borussia M’Gladbach/GER) 18/0 (21) 6 Mark McKenzie (Toulouse/FRA) 16/0 (25) 5 Tim Ream (Charlotte FC) 65/1 (37) 4 Antonee Robinson (Fulham/ENG) 49/4 (27) MIDFIELDERS A midfield long on brawn and short on attacking inventiveness meant offensive spark depended on Pulisic coming back for the ball. But it succeeded in taming the Reggae Boyz. Yunus Musah's offensive contributions were limited to a clever pass to Malik Tillman that resulted in the USA's only corner kick and surging forward briefly early in the second half. His moment of the match came when he interfered without fouling to thwart a goal-area tap-in by Holgate. Tanner Tessmann shot high and wide by a mile in the 32nd minute and drew two free kicks, one after dribbling impressively through a crowd of Jamaicans. But he too played mainly a defensive role. Weston McKennie struggled to show positives on the ball and displayed worrying lapses in composure. First, a needless shirt-pull deep in Jamaica's half earned him a 50th-minute yellow card, followed by his involvement in a scuffle. Mauricio Pochettino wisely took him off in the 72nd minute. Johnny Cardoso exited injured in the 21st minute, replaced by Tillman. Player (Club) caps/goals (age) 3 Weston McKennie (Juventus/ITA) 57/11 (26) 6 Yunus Musah (AC Milan/ITA) 44/1 (21) NR Johnny Cardoso (Real Betis/ESP) 18/0 (23) 6 Tanner Tessmann (Lyon/FRA) 5/0 (23) FORWARDS An early goal is excellent tonic for an away-game challenge, which is what Ricardo Pepi provided in a rare start. Christian Pulisic accelerated too quickly for three converging Jamaicans to intervene and delivered the ball into the path of Pepi, who timed his run perfectly before hitting the net off the far post (1-0). Pulisic's frequent moves into midfield included defensive toil late in the game, when he also set up a Brandon Vazquez chance. Player (Club) caps/goals (age) 7 Ricardo Pepi (PSV/NED) 32/12 (21) 7 Christian Pulisic (AC Milan/ITA) 75/31 (26) SUBSTITUTES Malik Tillman's foul on Damion Lowe led to a midfield free kick that Jamaica translated into its best second-half chance. On a field that perhaps needed beach soccer acumen to create productive possession, Tillman and Gianluca Busio, like their fellow midfielders, were more effective at disrupting Jamaica's rhythm than establishing any for the USA. The center forward off the bench, Brandon Vazquez hesitated when Pulisic set him up and failed to pull the trigger on a narrow-angle shot that, if struck hard, would have caused problems for Blake. When Vazquez had plenty of time to shoot from longer range, his effort trickled into Blake's arms. Player (Club) caps/goals (age) 5 Malik Tillman (PSV/NED) 17/0 (22) 5 Gianluca Busio (Venezia/ITA) 16/1 (22) 4 Brandon Vazquez (Monterrey/MEX) 10/4 (26) NR Alex Zendejas (Club América/MEX) 10/1 NR Auston Trusty (Celtic/SCO) 4/0 (26) TRIVIA: Ricardo Pepi became the fourth player to score a dozen USMNT goals before his 22nd birthday, joining Christian Pulisic, Jozy Altidore and Landon Donovan. NOTABLE: In its previous five home games, Jamaica posted one win (1-0 over the Dominican Republic), tied Honduras (0-0), Cuba (0-0) and Haiti (2-2), and lost to Canada (1-2). UP NEXT: The USA-Jamaica second leg takes place Monday in St. Louis. Nov. 14 in Kingston Jamaica 0 USA 1. Goals: Pepi 5. Jamaica — Blake; Lembikisa (T.Gray, 88), Holgate, Lowe, Bell, Leigh (Hayden, 46); D.Gray (Cephas, 46), Latibeaudiere, Palmer (Magee, 58), Bailey; Nicholson (Williams, 77). USA — Turner; Scally, McKenzie, Ream, A.Robinson; McKennie (Busio, 72), Musah (Trusty, 87), Cardoso (Tillman, 21), Tessmann (Zendejas, 87); Pepi (Vazquez, 72), Pulisic. Yellow cards: Jamaica — Lowe 61, Bailey 69, Holgate 76, 86, Hayden 90+3; USA — McKennie 50, A.Robinson 69. Red cards: Jamaica — Holgate 86. USA — none. Referee: Juan Gabriel Calderon (Costa Rica). ARs: Juan Carlos Mora (Costa Rica), William Arrieta (Costa Rica). 4th Official: David Gomez (Costa Rica). VAR: Jesus Montero (Costa Rica). AVAR: Diego Ojer (Guatemala). Att.: 25,000. Stats: Jamaica/USA Shots: 5/5 Shots on target: 2/3 Saves: 2/2 Corner Kicks: 3/1 Fouls: 13/12 Offside: 3/0 Possession: 41%/59%
November 15, 20241 yr woitalla only gave turner a 6 and for me he was motm he has got to get to a club where he is the clear #1
November 15, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, Ted Lange said: I feel like the field conditions actually favored the US. Feels like it totally took away the quick counter. Maybe. I think we bag 2 or 3 on a better pitch. 1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said: woitalla only gave turner a 6 and for me he was motm he has got to get to a club where he is the clear #1 Agree a 6 is crazy. He put in an 8 shift. Unless you blame him for the pen but, you know, he did save it. Thought he, CP and McKenzie were our best players.
November 16, 20241 yr In case there isn’t a 2025 Nations League thread… https://www.espn.com/soccer/report/_/gameId/721463
November 16, 20241 yr Dos a cero and got cracked in the head too? Not a great day for him, but he took it like a champ.
November 16, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said: Respect to Aguirre. No place for that at any level. Between Aguirre & Iron Mike Tyson, last night’s theme was “Old Dude’s Getting Bloodied”. Kind of a downer for Gen X and older.
November 16, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, Napoleon said: Between Aguirre & Iron Mike Tyson, last night’s theme was “Old Dude’s Getting Bloodied”. Kind of a downer for Gen X and older. I’m not sure why other federations just do not get this. If you treat the fans like animals and stick them behind cages, don’t be shocked when they act like animals.
November 16, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Captain Ron said: I’m not sure why other federations just do not get this. If you treat the fans like animals and stick them behind cages, don’t be shocked when they act like animals. Oh please. They're going to act how they act regardless.
November 17, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, The Dog said: I’m a fan but don’t see that happening. He turns 28 next summer. Doesn’t really fit their age profile.
November 17, 20241 yr Several Americans allegedly linked with a possible move to Liverpool. I’m not buying it. Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Jive Turkey
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