Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Surly Horns

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

Featured Replies

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

Harris knew that we knew.  

With Hillary, it was the entire thesis of her campaign.

  • Replies 56.6k
  • Views 3.7m
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • I don't post all that often, though don't mistake that for not enjoying this board's discourse, OUsucks/Texags point and laughs, and quality original content on a frequent basis. I haven't felt t

  • Clintonaldo
    Clintonaldo

    Just had an interesting conversation with wife. Her: Hey Wednesday I need you to pick our son up Me: ok but be home by 4 because I am going to Chili’s for some internet friends. Her: You are mee

  • Old Freak Nasty
    Old Freak Nasty

    I am an American Indian, born in rural Pennsylvania while my dad attended Penn State for graduate school in the 70s.  He was accepted by all on campus, but encountered plenty of racism when outside of

Posted Images

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Texas Monthly took a shot at what Texas congressional districts could look like if they were gerrymandered to a similar standard as what the fascists have done.

image.thumb.png.c716333639aa19fce7a9522cb903929f.png

includes close-up of cities and also a bonus non-gerrymandered map https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-gerrymandering-democrats/

California should do this just to make a point ,,, I would love to see how Roberts would respond to a 52-0 House delegation.

1 hour ago, linux said:

So Dabo was kicked out of the polling booth because his son shared his same name, and these motherfuckers think we need IDs when your voting action is immediately tracked?

lmao what

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Precinct numbers for the Pitt campus have already surpassed 2020 total numbers

 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

They are REALLY freaking out about turnout today

CLARK COUNTY NEVADA We need Republicans to vote today as we are UNDERPERFORMING significantly vs 2020 on Election Day. Do not get complacent with our early vote lead! R turnout in Clark is behind D turnout. At this same point in 2020, Rs had 41% of the Election Day vote - we are down to 33%. VOTE VOTE VOTE

Look, I can buy the "R's have cannibalized their ED vote" line of thinking because a reversion to the mean makes sense but this is more than a little selectively interpreting data with the comparisons to 2020 ED specifically. We don't know shit about fuck.

34 minutes ago, quigley said:

But as it's population grows, it'll have more electoral votes. FL may surpass NY in the 2030 census.

It would be a little weird if it didn't given it surpassed NY in the 2020 Census and has more EVs now.

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

b4a9901b-8ae7-46c7-9ad6-c1c52dd82a08.png

So basically they just submitted a Surly post chosen at random,

  • Popular Post
6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.

I can't even believe this discourse is happening at this moment, and I'm not going to post on this further but the Democrats are not nearly as leftist at they were in the 80s. They are only more progressive on sexual morality.
Meanwhile, the GOP has gone from a pro-business party of social conservatives to an pro-inflation, pro-debt insurgent outlier party that nominated a convicted felon who led an attack on the United States Capital in pursuit oif stopping congress from performing ministerial duties under the constitution.

If you would like to have a "both sides" thread, my suggestion would be to start one. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/obama-harris-progressives.html
There’s a lot of people that think both have gone too far away from center, it’s not like this is something new.  There’s plenty of charts and polls over the last ten years that prove that.  Sorry for having a different opinion than the norm in here.  There’s not much of a debate that both parties have gotten further and further apart steadily in the last ten years.  Are they the same no but good lord it’s shouldn’t be bad to point that out and negative reactions to that just prove the point more. One article said when Clinton was elected only 25% of democrats claimed to be liberal now it’s like 75%, there’s a difference now that’s all I’m saying. Just like most republicans use to not be blind Trump cult lovers.  I don’t get how saying the divide on both sides has gotten worse is a bad thing.  

Cool. So who did you vote for this year?
1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Name a fucking policy, stop posting opinion pieces and polls. What policy by Democrats evidences this massive swing to the left? 

I think he is simply mistakingly saying "both" parties have gotten more radical in policies, to the country has become more polarized.   The MAGAt GOP has moved way further right than dems have left.    Now the Clay Travis/ELON bros of the world, think WOKE is a policy, so maybe that is what the policy he is referring to.

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Meanwhile, WI GOP officials are freaking out about the gender gap

Even the GOP women have no idea what the average swing women voter thinks right now. 

rich women who watch fox news don't consider abortion an issue because they have the means to leave their state and get things done quietly.

this is not about sex, it's about class, and they're too fucking stupid to understand that.

CLEMSON, S.C. (AP) — It has been a rough few days for Clemson coach Dabo Swinney. First, his 19th-ranked Tigers lost to Louisville on Saturday night, then he was told he couldn’t vote Tuesday at his polling place.

Swinney, whose given name is William, explained that the voting system had locked him out, saying a “William Swinney” had already voted last week. Swinney said it was his oldest son, Will, and not him.

“They done voted me out of the state,” Swinney said. “We’re 6-2 and 5-1 (in the Atlantic Coast Conference), man. They done shipped me off.”

Dabo Swinney had to complete a paper ballot and was told there will be a hearing on Friday to resolve the issue.

“I was trying to do my best and be a good citizen and go vote,” he said. “Sometimes doing your best ain’t good enough. You have to keep going though, keep figuring it out.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clemson-coach-dabo-swinney-challenged-at-poll-when-out-to-vote-in-election/

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Jokes aside, I'm legit worried for that guy's safety should Trump lose. 

He's a piece of shit. We'd all be better off

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

How

I SAID ATTEMPT

  • Popular Post

Voted about 11:30 in light-blue Birmingham suburb. Clicking along efficiently, I asked the poll workers how busy it was, they showed me the numbers on the machines, about double the usual.

No drama, even though I cosplayed wearing my replica Union Army belt buckle.

Saw one woman walk out from voting with a smile like she'd sent an abusive ex to prison.

Checking Instagram later, my local artsy friends are swarming the polls, some standing in hour-long lines. Maybe all the other people in those lines are Trumpy. Maybe they aren't.

IMG_0984.jpg

IMG_0985.jpg

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Democrats have spent the last two decades enacting policies that were created by Republicans. The Democratic Party has actually moved right but you don't realize it because Republicans have lurched way way more right and you don't have any actual principles other than feeling comfy in the middle. So you've moved right, too, and now Democrats feel further away from you because don't realize what's happened.  

Seriously, that might be the dumbest post in months. Just a bunch of gullible dumbasses falling for the "everyone's a radical leftist" coming from republican campaigns. They just point to AOC or Bernie and pretend that they are the party and not the outliers. Anyone remember in the democratic primary when they were asked who supports Medicare for all and only Bernie (maybe Warren I don't remember) raised there hand? Anyone see that no democrat other than a handful are willing to come even close to criticizing Israel? Supporting the police in response to more vocal progressives calling for "defunding the police" etc.? This is why this country is doomed. People seriously are too dense to see propoganda when it's staring them in the fucking face.

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

It seems pretty obvious from that, that the parties have shifted with the voters.

Quote

But there’s a paradox: since the early 1990s, according to Gallup, Democratic voters have shifted more to the left than Republican voters have to the right. In 1994, the second year of Bill Clinton’s presidency, 25% of Democrats thought of themselves as liberal and the same share—25%—called themselves conservative. A strong plurality of Democrats—48%—identified as moderate.

By 2022, the second year of Joe Biden’s presidency, the picture had entirely changed. An outright majority of Democrats—54%—now called themselves liberal, while the share of conservatives fell to just 10%. Moderates, who once outnumbered the party’s liberals by 23 percentage points, now trailed them by 18 points.

and:

Quote

The Republican Party has changed far less during this period, largely because it has long been more ideologically homogeneous at the grassroots. In 1994, 58% of Republicans were conservative, a figure that rose to 72% in 2022. During these three decades, Republican moderates fell from 33% to 22% while Republican liberals (already an endangered species in the early 1990s), declined from eight percent to just five percent.

 

9 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

 

As I sit waiting for a heart CT, regret sets in. 

I had a colonscopy this morning. I’m hoping to flush several loads of shit tonight.

Edited by Xminus6

9 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't see the evidence for Kamala giving up on rural voters anyway. I have seen several pitches to them during her campaign by both Kamala and Walz.

But this is the second time I have heard this nonsense about Kamala going all in on women and ignoring everybody else. I haven't seen a single speech or campaign event she has done that was specifically for women only while I have seen several directed to rural voters.

yeah, it's a right wing talking point.

i knew the speed of this thread would confuse my posts, but remember, i was quoting fox news. nobody on this board thinks that.

24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You just going to take that, @texasdago?  Vendetta!

Owww!

image.jpeg

12 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

rich women who watch fox news don't consider abortion an issue because they have the means to leave their state and get things done quietly.

this is not about sex, it's about class, and they're too fucking stupid to understand that.

Or more commonly, they have medical (not surgical) abortions. If they need a surgical abortion, their OB/Gyn will do it and code for something else.

Edited by quigley

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

One of the things I saw earlier was that she hasn't repeatedly (that I can recall) brought up being the first woman president.  Or to use that as a reason to vote for her. 

Hillary talked about it a lot.  Yeah, her nomination was historic, but my god, her campaign did not shut up about it. 

Kamala has not, to the best of my knowledge, mentioned being a woman or a minority to any significant degree. Supposedly because Obama told her that she doesn't have to. It speaks for itself and bringing it up will make it sound like you are trying to shove it down people's throats.

15 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

as much as i'd like to continue watching 4 blondos on tv, i'm tapping out.

will try to do more later, i love being an amateur stenographer.

thank you for your service, sir

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Kamala has not, to the best of my knowledge, mentioned being a woman or a minority to any significant degree. Supposedly because Obama told her that she doesn't have to. It speaks for itself and bringing it up will make it sound like you are trying to shove it down people's throats.

Just like her race, she can change her sex at will. 

15 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I’m not freaking arguing Trump isn’t an extremist at all.  Just the fact that both parties have gone more away from center, that’s it.  Which with polls of democrats since Clinton have proved. The other side I don’t even need to quote articles to prove obviously. I don’t understand why wanting both parties to be more center is a bad thing. The fact you have people like @Dahobbs and @Brisketexan negging anything they don’t agree with kinda proves my point.  

Which Dem policy positions are far left?

Just now, henrygandorf said:

yeah, it's a right wing talking point.

i knew the speed of this thread would confuse my posts, but remember, i was quoting fox news. nobody on this board thinks that.

I didn't mean to say that you had said that. Just that this is the second time I have heard that and I was checking my sanity.

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Democrats have spent the last two decades enacting policies that were created by Republicans. The Democratic Party has actually moved right but you don't realize it because Republicans have lurched way way more right and you don't have any actual principles other than feeling comfy in the middle. So you've moved right, too, and now Democrats feel further away from you because don't realize what's happened.  

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Name a fucking policy, stop posting opinion pieces and polls. What policy by Democrats evidences this massive swing to the left? 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

11 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

These dumbasses are so bad at math they don't understand that telling their ghouls to only vote in person in 2020, and telling them the opposite this year, means they're going to have far less in person on election Day than in 2020. 

There's no one single extra voter for Trump this year than 4 years ago. A portion of his 2020 voters died from the pandemic or just old age. 

He's lost a lot of women, lost a lot of Puerto Ricans in a week, and is even losing some among men. There's no way enough uneducated black and Mexican-American men are going to make up the difference, especially in PA, WI, and MI. 

He's toast

You better be right or I'm going to break a vodka bottle over your head.

2 minutes ago, linux said:

CLEMSON, S.C. (AP) — It has been a rough few days for Clemson coach Dabo Swinney. First, his 19th-ranked Tigers lost to Louisville on Saturday night, then he was told he couldn’t vote Tuesday at his polling place.

Swinney, whose given name is William, explained that the voting system had locked him out, saying a “William Swinney” had already voted last week. Swinney said it was his oldest son, Will, and not him.

“They done voted me out of the state,” Swinney said. “We’re 6-2 and 5-1 (in the Atlantic Coast Conference), man. They done shipped me off.”

Dabo Swinney had to complete a paper ballot and was told there will be a hearing on Friday to resolve the issue.

“I was trying to do my best and be a good citizen and go vote,” he said. “Sometimes doing your best ain’t good enough. You have to keep going though, keep figuring it out.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/clemson-coach-dabo-swinney-challenged-at-poll-when-out-to-vote-in-election/

I'd like Dabo not to vote. Sit this one out and focus on the defense.

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it. 

Then why did you start this conversation? Just to purposely take it nowhere?

That is BS anyway. I thought I was addressing your points fairly.

Edited by Valmy77

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can't hardly do this.  I'm "working" from home but I'm a mess.  What flick should I stream?

Dr Strangelove

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Okay, here is where I am:

Snacks - secured (Peach rings, red vines, sour gummy worms)

"Fun stuff" - secured (some good hybrid gummies from my new fave budtender while we bonded over both of us wearing Astros hats and being from the same part of Houston)

Nap - coming up

Dinner - not Chili's 

whoa, whoa, whoa...

i like Snacks and Fun stuff... I'd love a nap, but that's out of the question.... and I'm considering a fast today, to be ready for Chili's tomorrow.

And I am in Houston.

Edited by Slacks

I was gonna try a nap too since I’m working night shift tonight too, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen 

@quigley Yeah, I don't see evidence of MAGA, but the point is if he can't vote then nobody needs fucking  ID to vote.

Edited by linux

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Time to attempt a nap.  

 

Booooooo

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

So you got fucking nothing. You can't name one fucking policy, one fucking piece of legislation to prove your stupid fucking point. There is no middle for one reason and one reason only: the right has gone fucking looney tunes and is so far right, anything middle would look to be right of fucking Hitler. 

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

We aren't losing in Georgia.  I said it about 30 posts ago, but if this helps you, I can do it again.  

spacer.png

2 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article….   

 

What’s the point?  You aren’t going to agree with any of it.  Both have moved farther apart on almost all issues.  There’s plenty of examples out there, this isn’t news to most people.  Women’s rights and immigration fuck the Republicans for sure.  It’s the rest they keep getting farther apart on but you and plenty others don’t see it obviously.  Literally posted a poll of democrats and their stance and how it’s changed.  There is no middle anymore on anything.  

Could you be anymore of a pussy?  Just name one of your “plenty of examples”. 

4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Seriously, that might be the dumbest post in months. Just a bunch of gullible dumbasses falling for the "everyone's a radical leftist" coming from republican campaigns. They just point to AOC or Bernie and pretend that they are the party and not the outliers. Anyone remember in the democratic primary when they were asked who supports Medicare for all and only Bernie (maybe Warren I don't remember) raised there hand? Anyone see that no democrat other than a handful are willing to come even close to criticizing Israel? Supporting the police in response to more vocal progressives calling for "defunding the police" etc.? This is why this country is doomed. People seriously are too dense to see propoganda when it's staring them in the fucking face.

Maybe it's just me but I think y'all are saying the same thing. But also I haven't paid attention to the entire dialogue you've had. 

  • Popular Post

Oh, and on that Chili's thing, I know I'm early, but as a Cavalry Scout I felt that I should go check it out in advance.

IMG_0986.jpg

Paul Rudd handing out water to people in line at Temple U

6 minutes ago, Xminus6 said:

I had a colonscopy this morning. I’m hoping to flush several loads of shit tonight.

Nah, you did that yesterday.  Gotta fill back up first.

Just now, hookem2010 said:

Paul Rudd handing out water to people in line at Temple U

Temple kids are funny. “How long you been waiting” “idk, lost count” “they say it could be 2 more hours” “that’s fine, I got nothing else to do” 

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Maybe it's just me but I think y'all are saying the same thing. But also I haven't paid attention to the entire dialogue you've had. 

He meant @Hook1997's post was stupid. Not the one he quoted. 

4 minutes ago, quigley said:

I'd like Dabo not to vote. Sit this one out and focus on the defense.

Dabo sounds like when he talks, it should come out auto-tuned.

Paul Rudd handing out water at one of the polls in Philly. 

14 minutes ago, linux said:

I really tried pushing that once, but MAGA is king of cognitive dissonance. it is "100% fraud!", but then they will immediately ask when is the next time they can vote, its not about reality but about their feelings, they are like a dog, if a dog could hate 24/7

More than likely is that she voted and will now find fraud with her vote being cast…by her. But her stupidity is in publicizing it. More of her ilk will think she is smart and want to do it themselves. Thus her future fraud claims will not be as impactful. 

Just now, Jatrain said:

Could you be anymore of a pussy?  Just name one of your “plenty of examples”. 

I can think of some. LGBTQ+ stuff like allowing gay marriage and being nice to trans people.

Abandoning free trade to an extent and going back to aiding Unions...to an extent. Trying to raise the national minimum wage. Doing some things to fight climate change.

Stuff like that.

All things that I like and I support but I guess if you are a 1990s type Democrat who wants big crime bills, free trade bills, and cozying up to big business you might be annoyed.

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.