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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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This is Buttigieg's communication superpower. We don't need him to be VP, but he needs to be a BIG part of this campaign.  https://the.ink/p/free-pete-buttigieg-bridges-communication

 

Why is it so hard for Democrats to explain things in a certain language? I'm not asking you to put down anybody else, but can you talk a little bit about your philosophy of communication? You do seem to come at it just differently from lots of people in your world. You come from a different background in multiple ways than maybe lots of your colleagues. Again, not putting anybody else down, but what is your philosophy of communication when it comes to reaching other people, tapping into other people's moral frames, being able to be kind of hearable to people while also insisting on your truths? Tell me a little bit about your philosophy of communication. 

I was raised with more progressive values in a very conservative place. I was very different from a lot of the people around me. And I think when you're around when you stick out, when you're different, there's different ways you can approach that. One is to just conform. I couldn't do that. I couldn't just conform to values or styles that weren't me. Another is to kind of do the opposite, to just kind of rage against all the things that you don't align with.

But another is to figure out how you can engage people. Often, I think about, honestly, sometimes I even think about this with media folks on the right that I might be in an appearance with, like a somewhat hostile interviewer. And I just think about the guy at the end of the bar in South Bend, Indiana who I don't just know but like, who also has political views that I find horrifying. How would I talk to him? How did I talk to him? I mean, this is not a hypothetical. And it's different if you imagine liking and caring for the people you're talking to. It doesn't mean you're always going to get through to them, but it begins to give you the terms to meet people where they are without pretending to be like them more than you are. 

And it turns out people also respect that. We all know from a mile away when someone is insincerely trying to clothe themselves in our values or our style in order to appeal to us, right? And young people in particular have a nose for that, but we all do. Sometimes you get more respect from somebody who you still haven't won over in terms of convincing them that they were wrong and you're right, but maybe moved them an inch because they saw why you believe what you believe. And if you just explain what you believe in terms that make sense to you and could make sense to them, they can see it. They can feel it. I think there's something really powerful in that.

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2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I would go with Cooper or Beshear.  

Me too, but I’m coming around on Tim Waltz 

58 minutes ago, Js1 said:

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Skyrocket?  What year does she think this is?  A 3 point move vs Biden would be huge.

Just now, WBT said:

Skyrocket?  What year does she think this is?  A 3 point move vs Biden would be huge.

I think what she’s talking about is the potential, if everything goes right, for this to trigger a blue wave election. It’s unlikely, but the path exists. 

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3 hours ago, Captainant said:

It was already ugly. You new here or something? We're all but counting down republicans openly calling Harris racial slurs, and the (R) speaker has had to ask his caucus to tone it down already.

When these guys reveal their racism on Fox, Newsmax, right wing radio, etc. they aren't immediately called on it. The think this is all fine.

i guarantee that interviewer didn't follow up with "Wait, you are saying most migrants are garbage, Senator?!"

6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Skyrocket?  What year does she think this is?  A 3 point move vs Biden would be huge.

First off, Lakshya is a dude.  He does data and modeling for Split Ticket.  And his argument was that she could see a sustained 4 point lead post-convention, which, considering she's down ~1-2 points at present, would be a skyrocket in this day and age. 

35 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Good. Throw everyone's hat in the ring. Dem voters will be happy with whoever is picked if every legit option is considered. 

 

Also makes it harder for Republican oppo guys to do their jobs. Flood the zone with potential candidates and republicans won't be able to fully vet all of them and won't be able to attack as effectively. 

2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Doesn't that mean she's smart and Machiavellian?

Then again, these are the same people that thought Biden was an imbecile while also being at the top of an international crime family.

the whole thing has been perfectly timed. Took out all the headwinds from the GOP convention.

Plus, having this month long build-up to the Den Convention is perfect.

2 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Also makes it harder for Republican oppo guys to do their jobs. Flood the zone with potential candidates and republicans won't be able to fully vet all of them and won't be able to attack as effectively. 

How much time do you need to attack Buttigieg by pointing out that he's gay and wants to make all our kids gay?

On 7/22/2024 at 3:54 PM, Ted Lange said:

What are the chances that Vance is still the VP candidate by month's end?  50/50?   

It has been 2 days since I posted this.   We are careening quickly towards 100%.   

26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Me too, but I’m coming around on Tim Waltz 

*Walz

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We are proud to endorse Kamala Harris for President to continue our progress for working families.

Her leadership on replacing lead service lines, expanding labor protections, and protecting pension security make her the right choice for our future.

 

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I wonder if Sean O'Brien is starting to regret his decision to attend the Republican convention.

57 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

Vetted as well as Palin and her dumbass white trash family 

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He's going to be No Fucks Given Biden instead of Senile Biden.

28 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Also makes it harder for Republican oppo guys to do their jobs. Flood the zone with potential candidates and republicans won't be able to fully vet all of them and won't be able to attack as effectively. 

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James Carville.  "Harris is the DEI candidate.  Diverse, Educated, and Intelligent."

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Release Dark Brandon the mother fucking kraken. 

27 minutes ago, South Austin said:

How much time do you need to attack Buttigieg by pointing out that he's gay and wants to make all our kids gay?

This post made me more gay than I expected.

4 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

James Carville.  "Harris is the DEI candidate.  Diverse, Educated, and Intelligent."

Just like Dark Brandon, repurpose it. Keep saying that 

2 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

This post made me more gay than I expected.

Welcome to the club! It’s pretty fabulous 

Just now, Js1 said:

Just like Dark Brandon, repurpose it. Keep saying that 

Yes, she should proudly say that and own it.

5 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

James Carville.  "Harris is the DEI candidate.  Diverse, Educated, and Intelligent."

Fuck yes! Perfect antidote. 

8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

James Carville.  "Harris is the DEI candidate.  Diverse, Educated, and Intelligent."

Meanwhile, Trump is the CRT candidate. Convicted thiRty-four Times. 

18 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

“I shouldn’t have said that” needs to be his catch phrase after roasting Trump.  All the greats have them- engvall , cable guy…

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Again, hit them hard with using their own bullshit against them. 

21 minutes ago, South Austin said:

He's going to be No Fucks Given Biden instead of Senile Biden.

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Joe is fresh out of fucks to give. Tee it high and let it fly champ.

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1 minute ago, The Royal We said:

Joe is fresh out of fucks to give. Tee it high and let it fly champ.

I imagine it was a huge weight off his shoulders not having to be POTUS and run an election at his age. Now he can go hog wild at roasting Trump 

4 hours ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

Bunch of big fat old white women. 

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3 hours ago, Js1 said:

They're also going to go all in on "too liberal" as if her opponent is trying to turn America into Gilead.  How come it's never that Trump is "too conservative???" 

That's what "We're Not Going Back" says.  The Dem crowd is already running with it -- it's organic, it's real, and it's fucking true.

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

We are almost at the n word! 

Oh....we'll get there.  And he 100% said a "colored" sorority, not a "college" sorority.  Clear as a bell.  They are going full racist, they can't help it.

And hey....hispanics who right now support team Trump....think that over really, really, REALLY fucking hard. Because that's what think of you, too.  They would happily dispatch all of our brown asses -- citizens, schmitizens -- right this second if they were in power.  THEY HATE YOU.  THEY THINK YOUR MERE PRESENCE HERE "POISONS THE BLOOD OF OUR COUNTRY."  THEY DO NOT THINK YOU ARE "REAL AMERICANS."  Just...fucking....STOP with your support of these assholes.  The hate you, they will fuck you over, and dance for joy as they do it.

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Oh PLEASE try to label a ball-busting prosecutor and former DA as "soft on crime." That will work out soooo well.

About as well as trying to attack her on the border when your candidate killed the border bill to address the problem.

There will be things to attack her on but those two won't be very effective IMHO. 

The response on "crime" and "the border" is such a fucking lay-up.

"I will be and am dedicated to fighting crime.  Today, our most important job to fight crime is to keep a multiple-indicted convicted felon out of the White House.  Fighting Crime starts with fighting back against convicted criminal Donald Trump."

"We must have a secure border, and I am dedicated to getting us there.  The #1 thing we can do on that front is to get Donald Trump out of the way -- Donald Trump BRAGGED about killing the most comprehensive, bipartisan border reform bill we've seen in decades.  If you want to secure the border, the most important thing you can do is vote for a president who actually wants to help fix it, instead of a criminal who wants to break it even more so he can campaign about it."

Done.

58 minutes ago, Red Five said:


“Although in fairness, those are just the ones that made it to trial. You are also accused of having committed 50 other, separate felonies. Not including the whole sexual assault thing.”

He probably shouldn’t debate her. It’s tough to “win” a debate against him, because he doesn’t play by any rules. But he probably wouldn’t come off looking great next to her.

Fuck yes, there's so much to hit him with.  Hit him hard, directly, right in the fucking mouth, and be done with it.  Don't ramble, don't linger.  "I don't take lectures on reducing crime from a convicted felon."  "I don't think the American people are interested in having their border overseen by a man who brags about stopping any effort to make it better."  "I'm about solving our problems, together, to help all of us. You're about making them worse, to help you and only you."

3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

She's the Salty Sailor? Or are we supposed to clutch our pearls because a woman said the f word? Because buddy, let me introduce you to my wife who uses that word for emphasis constantly. 

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31 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

He's gonna go full Bullworth

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They really have nothing 

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I never thought I would be this shallow at 47, but I don’t even need to see any Kamala Harris speeches, debates or anything to know I’m going to vote for her.  I’m voting against Trump above all else and nothing is going to change my mind.  That being said, I hope Kamala can pick up enough of the middle morons to win.

Go Kamala and fuck you Trump!

3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

And this this this.  Direct.  Plain.  No fear.  When the time is right, maybe in a debate, don't be afraid to say "stop being such an asshole."  Let the MAGAs clutch their pearls -- MAGAs don't matter.  They are lost, irrelevant, and losers.  Everyone else matters.  And everyone else can be motivated by someone who stands up for what's good and right and doesn't fucking apologize or back down.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

And this this this.  Direct.  Plain.  No fear.  When the time is right, maybe in a debate, don't be afraid to say "stop being such an asshole."  Let the MAGAs clutch their pearls -- MAGAs don't matter.  They are lost, irrelevant, and losers.  Everyone else matters.  And everyone else can be motivated by someone who stands up for what's good and right and doesn't fucking apologize or back down.

Perhaps my favorite part about Harris winning would be Trump realizing he won't get pardoned.

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4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

She's the Salty Sailor? Or are we supposed to clutch our pearls because a woman said the f word? Because buddy, let me introduce you to my wife who uses that word for emphasis constantly. 

My wife is a proud member of a rather large online group called "Ministers who say 'fuck.'"  The only people turned off by that are pearl-clutchers who are never voting Dem anyway.

Fuck 'em.  Let's fucking roll.

I saw a political ad over the weekend from a guy running for congress and in the scripted, taped, ad he says “bullshit” in the context of “bullshit regulation” or similar. Bleeped, but still. Obviously calculated as a good old boy speaks plain and direct. 
 

But apparently her swearing (and laughing, they made sure to caption the laughs) is horrible. 

4 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

I’m voting against

No need to apologize. Whether we want to admit it, most people vote against someone. Negative campaigning works.

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And this this this.  Direct.  Plain.  No fear.  When the time is right, maybe in a debate, don't be afraid to say "stop being such an asshole."  Let the MAGAs clutch their pearls -- MAGAs don't matter.  They are lost, irrelevant, and losers.  Everyone else matters.  And everyone else can be motivated by someone who stands up for what's good and right and doesn't fucking apologize or back down.

Fair.  But I'm undecided until I see video of Kamala giving her husband a handjob in the middle of an off-Broadway play.

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6 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Perhaps my favorite part about Harris winning would be Trump realizing he won't get pardoned.

My favorite part will be 4 more years of democracy followed closely by effective non dramatic governance.

4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Perhaps my favorite part about Harris winning would be Trump realizing he won't get pardoned.

She should tell him that to his face in a debate. "And just so you understand Donald, I promise America right here and now that I will never pardon you for any of your potential Federal convictions."

4 hours ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

I love how so many fucking morons are dementia experts in 2024. 

MAGA - Kamala is a DEI hire!

The rest of us -

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