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#31701
28 minutes ago, immamac said:

And people wonder if AI is a bubble. It's not a bubble it's a pure fucking scam.

Care to elaborate. I have kinda dug my head in the sand; but I know a couple c level tech bros that are all in on AI and pivoting from traditional software applications to start AI companies. They are smart dudes and all in.

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#31705
3 hours ago, immamac said:

And people wonder if AI is a bubble. It's not a bubble it's a pure fucking scam.

man it's about time I read a technically smart person just come out and say it. It lacks and fails in so many ways but everyone just kind of gives an idiocracy shrug and assumes the plants want the ai.

It's fucking derivative.

#31706
On 1/8/2026 at 4:53 PM, atomheartbevo said:

What needs to happen is for people to grab photos of various wives/husbands of people in Congress (as well as Congressional members themselves) and have Grok generate fakes of them, lots and lots of fakes, and then spread them around while @ all of the various members of Congress, their aides, etc.

Don’t no one want to see nekkid congress critters except AOC and Jasmine.

#31707
2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Don’t no one want to see nekkid congress critters except AOC and Jasmine.

I would peruse some deep fakes of Speaker Johnson’s wife.

#31708
5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

He’s the owner and operator of a platform that knowingly generated CSAM for profit. A state AG somewhere that isn’t enslaved by MAGA idiocy needs to charge him tomorrow.

Dear leader would just pardon him for another pac donation

#31711

I’ve noticed a lot of grok requests in replies on x that are just getting ignored the last few days.

also saw a clip of Elon saying surgeons will essentially be not needed bc of his robots within 4-5 yrs.

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#31714
10 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

So what is the world’s worst Nazi up to these days?

The Senate figured out his Achilles heel - booting twitter out of the App Store. And his laughing emoji responses to people creating really bad stuff with Grok has not gone unnoticed.

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Letter to Apple and Google on Removing X and Grok from App Store 1.9.2026.pdf

We write to ask that you enforce your app stores’ terms of service against X Corp’s (hereafter, “X”) X and Grok apps for their mass generation of nonconsensual sexualized images of women and children. X’s generation of these harmful and likely illegal depictions of women and children has shown complete disregard for your stores’ distribution terms. Apple and Google must remove these apps from the app stores until X’s policy violations are addressed. In recent days, X users have used the app’s Grok AI tool to generate nonconsensual sexual imagery of real, private citizens at scale. This trend has included Grok modifying images to depict women being sexually abused, humiliated, hurt, and even killed. In some cases, Grok has reportedly created sexualized images of children—the most heinous type of content imaginable.

What is more, X has reportedly encouraged this behavior, including through the company’s CEO Elon Musk acknowledging this trend with laugh-cry emoji reactions. Researchers have also found a Grok app archive reportedly containing nearly 100 images of potential child sexual abuse materials generated since August, in addition to many other nonconsensual nude depictions of real people being tortured and worse. There can be no mistake about X’s knowledge, and, at best, negligent response to these trends.

Your app stores’ policies are clear. Google’s terms of service require apps to “prohibit users from creating, uploading, or distributing content that facilitates the exploitation or abuse of children” including prohibiting the “portrayal of children in a manner that could result in the sexual exploitation of children.” Apps that do not are said to be subject to “immediate removal from Google Play” for violations. Similarly, Apple’s terms of service bar apps from including “offensive” or “just plain creepy” content, which under any definition must include nonconsensually-generated sexualized images of children and women. Further, Apple’s terms explicitly bar apps from including content that is “[o]vertly sexual or pornographic material” including material “intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.”

Turning a blind eye to X’s egregious behavior would make a mockery of your moderation practices. Indeed, not taking action would undermine your claims in public and in court that your app stores offer a safer user experience than letting users download apps directly to their phones. This principle has been core to your advocacy against legislative reforms to increase app store competition and your defenses to claims that your app stores abuse their market power through their payment systems.

Both Apple and Google have also recently demonstrated the ability to move quickly to moderate apps from the app stores. For example, under explicit pressure, and perhaps threats, from the Department of Homeland Security, your companies quickly removed apps that allowed users to lawfully report immigration enforcement activities, like ICEBlock and Red Dot. Unlike Grok’s sickening content generation, these apps were not creating or hosting harmful or illegal content, and yet, based entirely on the Administration’s claims that they posed a risk to immigration enforcers, you removed them from your stores.

We hope you will demonstrate a similar level of responsiveness and initiate swift action to remove the X and Grok apps from your app stores. Given the severity of the harm, at the very least, temporary removal pending a full investigation of the claims is appropriate.

To understand your approach to evaluating X and Grok under your existing policies, we request a written response to this letter by January 23, 202

#31715
45 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

So what is the world’s worst Nazi up to these days?

Calling the banning of child pornography "censorship" and advocating for a white ethnostate, nbd.

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#31717

His death will be one of the most positive developments in world history. He’s removed all doubt. He’s just flat-out evil.

#31718

"Remember back when South Africa was awesome?" is so on the nose for an over-the-top racist that I sometimes think he's got to be trolling. Then I remember that he's Elon Musk.

#31719
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

His death will be one of the most positive developments in world history. He’s removed all doubt. He’s just flat-out evil.

Which is exactly why it should be actively worked towards

#31720
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The FAA predicted Elon Musk’s Starship would cause “minor or minimal” disruption. Then the rockets exploded twice in three months over busy airspace. Flight data reveals how many planes scrambled to p

Good story on the effects of SpaceX disruptions and incompetence

#31725
37 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Name the dystopic movie we are sliding in to.

I'd be OK with it being me in Will Forte's role in Last Man on Earth but the role of Carol will be played by Alexandra Daddario and not Kristen Schaal.

#31726
14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Senate figured out his Achilles heel - booting twitter out of the App Store. And his laughing emoji responses to people creating really bad stuff with Grok has not gone unnoticed.

Ice Hockey GIF by NHL

Letter to Apple and Google on Removing X and Grok from App Store 1.9.2026.pdf

We write to ask that you enforce your app stores’ terms of service against X Corp’s (hereafter, “X”) X and Grok apps for their mass generation of nonconsensual sexualized images of women and children. X’s generation of these harmful and likely illegal depictions of women and children has shown complete disregard for your stores’ distribution terms. Apple and Google must remove these apps from the app stores until X’s policy violations are addressed. In recent days, X users have used the app’s Grok AI tool to generate nonconsensual sexual imagery of real, private citizens at scale. This trend has included Grok modifying images to depict women being sexually abused, humiliated, hurt, and even killed. In some cases, Grok has reportedly created sexualized images of children—the most heinous type of content imaginable.

What is more, X has reportedly encouraged this behavior, including through the company’s CEO Elon Musk acknowledging this trend with laugh-cry emoji reactions. Researchers have also found a Grok app archive reportedly containing nearly 100 images of potential child sexual abuse materials generated since August, in addition to many other nonconsensual nude depictions of real people being tortured and worse. There can be no mistake about X’s knowledge, and, at best, negligent response to these trends.

Your app stores’ policies are clear. Google’s terms of service require apps to “prohibit users from creating, uploading, or distributing content that facilitates the exploitation or abuse of children” including prohibiting the “portrayal of children in a manner that could result in the sexual exploitation of children.” Apps that do not are said to be subject to “immediate removal from Google Play” for violations. Similarly, Apple’s terms of service bar apps from including “offensive” or “just plain creepy” content, which under any definition must include nonconsensually-generated sexualized images of children and women. Further, Apple’s terms explicitly bar apps from including content that is “[o]vertly sexual or pornographic material” including material “intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.”

Turning a blind eye to X’s egregious behavior would make a mockery of your moderation practices. Indeed, not taking action would undermine your claims in public and in court that your app stores offer a safer user experience than letting users download apps directly to their phones. This principle has been core to your advocacy against legislative reforms to increase app store competition and your defenses to claims that your app stores abuse their market power through their payment systems.

Both Apple and Google have also recently demonstrated the ability to move quickly to moderate apps from the app stores. For example, under explicit pressure, and perhaps threats, from the Department of Homeland Security, your companies quickly removed apps that allowed users to lawfully report immigration enforcement activities, like ICEBlock and Red Dot. Unlike Grok’s sickening content generation, these apps were not creating or hosting harmful or illegal content, and yet, based entirely on the Administration’s claims that they posed a risk to immigration enforcers, you removed them from your stores.

We hope you will demonstrate a similar level of responsiveness and initiate swift action to remove the X and Grok apps from your app stores. Given the severity of the harm, at the very least, temporary removal pending a full investigation of the claims is appropriate.

To understand your approach to evaluating X and Grok under your existing policies, we request a written response to this letter by January 23, 202

Ah, the US Senate wrote a sternly worded note. Should be very effective.

#31727
4 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Ah, the US Senate wrote a sternly worded note. Should be very effective.

It's an election year, he's laughing about people creating horrible shit with grok, and bitching that it's censorship to be asked to prevent people from making Grok generate undressed photos of anybody and everybody. And even the simplest of simpletons understand that some creep can grab photos of their grandkids off of Facebook and have grok undress them. And the letter/responses/hearings provide cover for Apple and Google to remove twitter from their respective app stores if they want to.

Plus the "Take it Down" law kicks in this coming May

The TAKE IT DOWN Act: A Federal Law Prohibiting the Nonconsensual Publication of Intimate Images | Congress.gov | Library of Congress and he's already bitched about that.

He's playing with fire on this one. The deepfake stuff already had a lot of people pissed off (which is partly why Congress passed a law last year) but toss in grok undressing kids/etc. and him laughing at people angry about it, and yeah, it won't end well.

#31728
33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It's an election year, he's laughing about people creating horrible shit with grok, and bitching that it's censorship to be asked to prevent people from making Grok generate undressed photos of anybody and everybody. And even the simplest of simpletons understand that some creep can grab photos of their grandkids off of Facebook and have grok undress them. And the letter/responses/hearings provide cover for Apple and Google to remove twitter from their respective app stores if they want to.

Plus the "Take it Down" law kicks in this coming May

The TAKE IT DOWN Act: A Federal Law Prohibiting the Nonconsensual Publication of Intimate Images | Congress.gov | Library of Congress and he's already bitched about that.

He's playing with fire on this one. The deepfake stuff already had a lot of people pissed off (which is partly why Congress passed a law last year) but toss in grok undressing kids/etc. and him laughing at people angry about it, and yeah, it won't end well.

I miss a normal world where one could find comfort in your sound logic.

#31729
3 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I miss a normal world where one could find comfort in your sound logic.

Oh, I hope he challenges the law; he was plenty mad when it passed.

#31730
On 1/10/2026 at 8:22 PM, Brisketexan said:

He’s the owner and operator of a platform that knowingly generated CSAM for profit. A state AG somewhere that isn’t enslaved by MAGA idiocy needs to charge him tomorrow.

Letitia James to the courtesy phone...

#31731
10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It's an election year, he's laughing about people creating horrible shit with grok, and bitching that it's censorship to be asked to prevent people from making Grok generate undressed photos of anybody and everybody. And even the simplest of simpletons understand that some creep can grab photos of their grandkids off of Facebook and have grok undress them. And the letter/responses/hearings provide cover for Apple and Google to remove twitter from their respective app stores if they want to.

Plus the "Take it Down" law kicks in this coming May

The TAKE IT DOWN Act: A Federal Law Prohibiting the Nonconsensual Publication of Intimate Images | Congress.gov | Library of Congress and he's already bitched about that.

He's playing with fire on this one. The deepfake stuff already had a lot of people pissed off (which is partly why Congress passed a law last year) but toss in grok undressing kids/etc. and him laughing at people angry about it, and yeah, it won't end well.

He’ll threaten to primary them or fund thire competition fully if he isn’t able to buy them off directly.

#31732
22 hours ago, Chopper said:

Elon Musk and his ai extension are worse than you can likely imagine

We need to repeal the 8th Amendment specifically as to Elon only. He deserves something beyond cruel and unusual.

#31734
On 1/10/2026 at 9:13 PM, McCroskey said:

So what is the world’s worst Nazi up to these days?

meant to follow up after your drop in. Any thoughts on whether producing CSAM is a good thing? Or if you think America should strive to be a "white state?"

#31735
11 hours ago, bluto said:

He’ll threaten to primary them or fund thire competition fully if he isn’t able to buy them off directly.

The law kicks in later in May, well after the primaries. His time to stop that law was earlier last year.

And the idea of him fully funding Democrats is amusing at this point, since he would be contributing to the Rs losing Congress. I don't think Trump or the Congressional Rs would be thrilled about that.

Unfortunately for him, a lot of the olds are constantly passing around dire warnings about AI being used to imitate people over the phone to scam the elders or make them think a loved one was kidnapped (I shit you not) and nowadays to make undressed photos of them and their family. I don't even bother to fact-check and argue any of the stuff my older relatives are tossing around, it's just too much and too crazy.

No, he's the perfect target for a lot of politicians here and abroad (and abroad, twitter might be banned in Indonesia, parts of Europe, etc., and that's just within the past few days that it's being discussed).

#31736
1 hour ago, Foosters said:

meant to follow up after your drop in. Any thoughts on whether producing CSAM is a good thing? Or if you think America should strive to be a "white state?"

Obviously not for either. On CSAM, if someone is abusing AI the same way they can abuse film or digital cameras, for example, then let's make sure the digital fingerprint is there and go arrest their ass, immediately. It's reported ChatGPT and other AI bots are able to create equally disturbing content, so let's apply any common sense actions and new laws equally to all AI bots.

Spare me the white state shit...mix it all in with all the other gas lighting rhetoric out there these days.

#31738
17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean....he literally advocated for it. You're good with that?

Well according to Google and ChatGPT, he literally has not. Here's what Gemini has to say about Musk being an "advocate," "proponent," "supporter," or any other "similar adjectives" that he wants the US to become a white state. I think it's quite possible your personal leanings and biases are affecting your interpretation of his actions, words, meanings, nuance, etc...

White Ethnostate - No explicit support found - Has not advocated for segregated territory.

Great Replacement - Endorsed the "logic" - Replied "the actual truth" to related posts.

DEI Programs - Strongly Opposed - Calls DEI "just another word for racism.

"White Nationalism - Denies Association - Frequently dismisses accusations of racism as "woke" propaganda.

Summary of Musk's intent on the topic:

Summary of Observed Intent

Based on his public interactions on X, Musk’s motives appear to be:

  • Political Realignment: Using the "Replacement" narrative to mobilize opposition against the Democratic Party and immigration policies.

  • Cultural Protectionism: Protecting what he defines as "Western Civilization" from what he perceives as a dilution of its core values and demographic strength.

  • Engagement and Influence: Musk uses these high-controversy topics to drive engagement on his platform, positioning X as the only place where "the truth" about these sensitive racial and political topics can be discussed without "censorship."

You can run this in ChatGPT and get similar feedback. I tend to think a lot of what he does is around Engagement. He's quite a troll, too, especially to people who dislike him.

#31739
5 minutes ago, McCroskey said:
  1. Political Realignment: Using the "Replacement" narrative to mobilize opposition against the Democratic Party and immigration policies.

  2. Cultural Protectionism: Protecting what he defines as "Western Civilization" from what he perceives as a dilution of its core values and demographic strength.

You skipped the part where he has stated and expressly endorsed (as in, replied with "100% endorsed") statements and positions that use the term "WHITE" in those concepts. So, he hasn't said he's "concerned about immigration and opposed Democrat immigration policies" -- he has said he has his position because of what it will do to WHITE PEOPLE. And what does he define "Western Civilization" as? That's right....WHITE PEOPLE.

The disingenuous casual racism of you fucks is fucking shit. You think you're clever. You're not. You're just a piece of shit. I hope your descendants will know what a piece of shit you are, so they can simply erase you from family history, as you deserve.

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#31741
21 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Well according to Google and ChatGPT,

I don't give a fuck what some software algorithms say, I only care about what he actually says.

When he publicly says the only way to survive is "white solidarity" I'm going to guess that he believes that, and that he's probably said worse in private.

#31742
8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You skipped the part where he has stated and expressly endorsed (as in, replied with "100% endorsed") statements and positions that use the term "WHITE" in those concepts. So, he hasn't said he's "concerned about immigration and opposed Democrat immigration policies" -- he has said he has his position because of what it will do to WHITE PEOPLE. And what does he define "Western Civilization" as? That's right....WHITE PEOPLE.

The disingenuous casual racism of you fucks is fucking shit. You think you're clever. You're not. You're just a piece of shit. I hope your descendants will know what a piece of shit you are, so they can simply erase you from family history, as you deserve.

"Replied with 100% endorsed." God I'd love to unpack that in an honest conversation but as usual, we're resorting back to typical name calling and projecting intellectual insecurities. This all you got? I like you, too, for what it's worth.

I also didn't forget anything. I ask the bots to expound on what you say Musk is, and they respond with what I presume are objective recalls of recorded history. Sorry this pisses you off so much.

#31743
1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

"Replied with 100% endorsed." God I'd love to unpack that in an honest conversation but as usual, we're resorting back to typical name calling and projecting intellectual insecurities. This all you got? I like you, too, for what it's worth.

I also didn't forget anything. I ask the bots to expound on what you say Musk is, and they respond with what I presume are objective recalls of recorded history. Sorry this pisses you off so much.

Shit, relying on and citing bots is neg-worthy alone.

If you can't tell that Elon is advancing a white ethno-state, in particular opposition to anyone who is NOT "white" (by his sole determination), you're too dumb to talk with.

#31744
3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I don't give a fuck what some software algorithms say, I only care about what he actually says.

When he publicly says the only way to survive is "white solidarity" I'm going to guess that he believes that, and that he's probably said worse in private.

I disagree. That post he endorsed with a single word response did include the term, but Musk has shown through hours of long form interviews and actual public statements, his thoughts on the changing makeup of global demographics and the impact to a country like the United States when certain policies are enacted.

I think there's a conversation to be had that's not foundationally racist at all, but can find answers on how we get humanity to a place where race, religion, and ethnicity truly doesn't matter. IMO it largely should focus on education and is going to take many generations.

#31745
15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Shit, relying on and citing bots is neg-worthy alone.

If you can't tell that Elon is advancing a white ethno-state, in particular opposition to anyone who is NOT "white" (by his sole determination), you're too dumb to talk with.

Where you the mathematician who hated calculators when they first came out?

So far you've spouted a lot of mis-truths and the bots, with most all publicly available recorded knowledge at their fingertips, are holding you accountable.

#31746
50 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Well according to Google and ChatGPT, he literally has not. Here's what Gemini has to say about Musk being an "advocate," "proponent," "supporter," or any other "similar adjectives" that he wants the US to become a white state. I think it's quite possible your personal leanings and biases are affecting your interpretation of his actions, words, meanings, nuance, etc...

White Ethnostate - No explicit support found - Has not advocated for segregated territory.

Great Replacement - Endorsed the "logic" - Replied "the actual truth" to related posts.

DEI Programs - Strongly Opposed - Calls DEI "just another word for racism.

"White Nationalism - Denies Association - Frequently dismisses accusations of racism as "woke" propaganda.

Summary of Musk's intent on the topic:

Summary of Observed Intent

Based on his public interactions on X, Musk’s motives appear to be:

  • Political Realignment: Using the "Replacement" narrative to mobilize opposition against the Democratic Party and immigration policies.

  • Cultural Protectionism: Protecting what he defines as "Western Civilization" from what he perceives as a dilution of its core values and demographic strength.

  • Engagement and Influence: Musk uses these high-controversy topics to drive engagement on his platform, positioning X as the only place where "the truth" about these sensitive racial and political topics can be discussed without "censorship."

You can run this in ChatGPT and get similar feedback. I tend to think a lot of what he does is around Engagement. He's quite a troll, too, especially to people who dislike him.

Why don’t you look at what he has actually agreed with from his own account instead of all this search engine gaslighting?

#31747

I do like that this forum exists. I like seeing and reading opinions that are very different from my own...gives me different perspectives to consider. I respect the hell out of this place.

And now, I fully expect to continue to be told to go fuck myself.

#31748
Just now, Sawbonz said:

Why don’t you look at what he has actually agreed with from his own account instead of all this search engine gaslighting?

That's all baked into it. You can ask them to cite specific tweets or posts...and give specifics and additional context. Pretty fascinating stuff.

#31750
Just now, McCroskey said:

That's all baked into it. You can ask them to cite specific tweets or posts...and give specifics and additional context. Pretty fascinating stuff.

Or I can believe my lying eyes. He absolutely knows retweeting racist shit gets his message through loud and clear (and magnifies and normalizes it), just like throwing up a NAZI salute at the fucking inauguration. Anything he says in a long form interview is to confuse the issue and give him deniability. Funny you people want to see nuance in naziism and white power, of all things

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