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#31751
5 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

That's all baked into it. You can ask them to cite specific tweets or posts...and give specifics and additional context. Pretty fascinating stuff.

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#31752

The crazy thing is out of all of the AI platforms, Grok is probably the most consistently accurate about his (musk’s) white supremacist views despite constant “tweaking” of his (grok’s) algorithms

#31754
10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Or I can believe my lying eyes. He absolutely knows retweeting racist shit gets his message through loud and clear (and magnifies and normalizes it), just like throwing up a NAZI salute at the fucking inauguration. Anything he says in a long form interview is to confuse the issue and give him deniability. Funny you people want to see nuance in naziism and white power, of all things

White power and racism gets the benefit of the doubt right up until the smoke from the ovens becomes choking (and even after, Holocaust denialism, y'all). I mean, gosh, we can never REALLY tell if someone is a racist white supremacist who wants to purge 100 million people from this country (even though that's the number the regime itself has used). Nope. No way of telling. By that impossible-to-meet burden of proof, I don't think there's ever been a white supremacist on this planet, ever.

Non-white people are the problem and get the blame for every ill of society, no further discussion needed, it's decided and done. We are the greatest threat that Western Civilization has ever faced, we are "vermin" (actual word the regime uses), no nuance, no room for debate.

Them's the rules. White supremacists like Elon and McCroskey said so, follow them or else.

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#31755
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

White power and racism gets the benefit of the doubt right up until the smoke from the ovens becomes choking (and even after, Holocaust denialism, y'all). I mean, gosh, we can never REALLY tell if someone is a racist white supremacist who wants to purge 100 million people from this country (even though that's the number the regime itself has used). Nope. No way of telling. By that impossible-to-meet burden of proof, I don't think there's ever been a white supremacist on this planet, ever.

Non-white people are the problem and get the blame for every ill of society, no further discussion needed, it's decided and done. We are the greatest threat that Western Civilization has ever faced, we are "vermin" (actual word the regime uses), no nuance, no room for debate.

Them's the rules. White supremacists like Elon and McCroskey said so, follow them or else.

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#31756
43 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

White power and racism gets the benefit of the doubt right up until the smoke from the ovens becomes choking (and even after, Holocaust denialism, y'all). I mean, gosh, we can never REALLY tell if someone is a racist white supremacist who wants to purge 100 million people from this country (even though that's the number the regime itself has used). Nope. No way of telling. By that impossible-to-meet burden of proof, I don't think there's ever been a white supremacist on this planet, ever.

Non-white people are the problem and get the blame for every ill of society, no further discussion needed, it's decided and done. We are the greatest threat that Western Civilization has ever faced, we are "vermin" (actual word the regime uses), no nuance, no room for debate.

Them's the rules. White supremacists like Elon and McCroskey said so, follow them or else.

That's a lot of bullshit. Do you actually think that's how it's all being characterized?

#31757
3 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

That's a lot of bullshit. Do you actually think that's how it's all being characterized?

Posted on Dec 31

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#31758
6 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

That's a lot of bullshit. Do you actually think that's how it's all being characterized?

Have you read your posts on the past 2 pages?

#31759
6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Posted on Dec 31

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Yeah its lousy. But for someone like Noem, it's easy to see why she'd think that's cute or clever. It's not.

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#31760
4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Have you read your posts on the past 2 pages?

Yes, and I see a lot of information that doesn't point to that wild of an interpretation.

#31761

@McCroskey

"The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world."

Third World = "Shithole" Countries = Not White

There are about ~50 million people born outside the US living here. Deporting 100 million means deporting 50 million with birthright citizenship, not to mention 2/3 of the 50 million have already gained citizenship or are legal residents.

#31763
43 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Yeah its lousy. But for someone like Noem, it's easy to see why she'd think that's cute or clever. It's not.

Again, nothing but excusing and minimizing.

No, it’s not “lousy.” It’s fucking genocidal. She said - I her actual words, with zero ambiguity - they want to deport 100 million people. And especially/only people from or descended from “the third world.” You know…likely family.

This is textbook gaslighting - diminish or flat out deny what the evil fucks are actually saying, endorsing, and doing.

You are an accessory. By doing what you’re doing, you’re on their side. And against my family and our continued existence in our country. You can and should burn in hell.

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#31764
28 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Again, nothing but excusing and minimizing.

No, it’s not “lousy.” It’s fucking genocidal. She said - I her actual words, with zero ambiguity - they want to deport 100 million people. And especially/only people from or descended from “the third world.” You know…likely family.

This is textbook gaslighting - diminish or flat out deny what the evil fucks are actually saying, endorsing, and doing.

You are an accessory. By doing what you’re doing, you’re on their side. And against my family and our continued existence in our country. You can and should burn in hell.

The era of plausible deniability, excuses, “he didn't really mean that,” is over.

The mask is fully off now, and we see you, all of you.

#31765
40 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Now...read what it says when you change it to "anti-racist" sentiments. And also go back to my original answer on whether or not Musk wants to turn the United States into a white ethnostate.

I get we're not in agreement here, he's got a lot of bad shit out there and a lot of good shit...it's a very conflicted online persona with quite a bit of trolling involved. Call it plausible deniability all you want, but long form interviews are more authentic and are far more likely to show a person for who they really are...you don't see the person Musk is described as being when you listen to him for longer periods.

#31766
3 hours ago, McCroskey said:

Well according to Google and ChatGPT, he literally has not.

I'd love for you to share the prompts and full context that led you to believe this lie.

Or you can just be a fucking liar you pissant little asshole

#31767
40 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Again, nothing but excusing and minimizing.

No, it’s not “lousy.” It’s fucking genocidal. She said - I her actual words, with zero ambiguity - they want to deport 100 million people. And especially/only people from or descended from “the third world.” You know…likely family.

This is textbook gaslighting - diminish or flat out deny what the evil fucks are actually saying, endorsing, and doing.

You are an accessory. By doing what you’re doing, you’re on their side. And against my family and our continued existence in our country. You can and should burn in hell.

Spare me your faux outrage. I'm not excusing or minimizing any more than you are being irrational and unhinged. I'm sorry you have zero faith in OUR Constitution. I happen to have high confidence that your family, along with some of MY family who migrated here from Mexico, will be just fine despite the bullshit spouted from current politicians.

#31768
16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I'd love for you to share the prompts and full context that led you to believe this lie.

Or you can just be a fucking liar you pissant little asshole

Happy to share...ran a few just to see if there was consistency or issues with my prompts. Share your own and let me know if it shows any different answers. Here's a couple:

"Provide examples of Elon Musk advocating for a white ethnostate. Include context and reference specific quotes or tweets."

"Has Elon Musk advocated for a white ethnostate? Provide examples and context."

fucking liar pissant little asshole. That's funny.

#31769
13 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Spare me your faux outrage. I'm not excusing or minimizing any more than you are being irrational and unhinged. I'm sorry you have zero faith in OUR Constitution. I happen to have high confidence that your family, along with some of MY family who migrated here from Mexico, will be just fine despite the bullshit spouted from current politicians.

You’re a liar and an idiot who denies what is happening right in front of your eyes.

Because you fucking like it. You want a Gestapo-purged ethnostate governed by malevolent oligarchs. The hell that’s coming won’t spare any of us. Including you and yours. I hope that as the worst is happening to someone you love, you have a millisecond of clarity that you supported this.

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#31770
4 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Happy to share...ran a few just to see if there was consistency or issues with my prompts. Share your own and let me know if it shows any different answers. Here's a couple:

"Provide examples of Elon Musk advocating for a white ethnostate. Include context and reference specific quotes or tweets."

"Has Elon Musk advocated for a white ethnostate? Provide examples and context."

fucking liar pissant little asshole. That's funny.

It must be nice, checking out on your own critical thinking and giving it up to a large language model. Enjoy the bliss, you sad ignorant little man. If you're happy with using your two queries as a fig leaf to believe your hate, then I think Bozo wants to talk to you

#31771
9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It must be nice, checking out on your own critical thinking and giving it up to a large language model. Enjoy the bliss, you sad ignorant little man. If you're happy with using your two queries as a fig leaf to believe your hate, then I think Bozo wants to talk to you

He knows the answer, but it makes him uncomfortable, so he surrenders his critical thinking to a machine to avoid that awkward feeling and twinge of guilt.

#31773
21 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It must be nice, checking out on your own critical thinking and giving it up to a large language model. Enjoy the bliss, you sad ignorant little man. If you're happy with using your two queries as a fig leaf to believe your hate, then I think Bozo wants to talk to you

I like the progression in your rebuttals. First, I won't share because I'm liar. Now, I'm ignorant because I happened to share results from merely two of several prompts I used on multiple independent AI Bots that directly refuted statements made by Brisket & Foosters. That the responses are heavily sourced has to go over your head.

Alas, I love this nearly 8 year old thread with 32k posts of wildly wrong predictions. It's a special circle jerk of "enlightenment" you guys got going on here.

#31774
2 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

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Seriously. We're creating a new apex predator to rival us at the top of the food chain, and I doubt it'll go well for us.

#31775
2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

I like the progression in your rebuttals. First, I won't share because I'm liar. Now, I'm ignorant because I happened to share results from merely two of several prompts I used on multiple independent AI Bots that directly refuted statements made by Brisket & Foosters. That the responses are heavily sourced has to go over your head.

Alas, I love this nearly 8 year old thread with 32k posts of wildly wrong predictions. It's a special circle jerk of "enlightenment" you guys got going on here.

Wait…wildly wrong predictions are an indictment or something?

Man…wait till your dumbass hears about this Elon fella…

#31776
26 minutes ago, bolverk said:

He knows the answer, but it makes him uncomfortable, so he surrenders his critical thinking to a machine to avoid that awkward feeling and twinge of guilt.

I think you guys argue on the internet with strangers too much.

#31783
10 hours ago, McCroskey said:

I like the progression in your rebuttals. First, I won't share because I'm liar. Now, I'm ignorant because I happened to share results from merely two of several prompts I used on multiple independent AI Bots that directly refuted statements made by Brisket & Foosters. That the responses are heavily sourced has to go over your head.

Alas, I love this nearly 8 year old thread with 32k posts of wildly wrong predictions. It's a special circle jerk of "enlightenment" you guys got going on here.

It's more that you're treating an LLM as an arbiter of truth, and using that as an excuse to not look any deeper or to actually challenge your base assumption. The responses can be heavily sourced, but the presence of a bunch of links doesn't mean it's accurate. I'm sure it can find a bunch of sub stacks and op-eds to say the words that you want to read, but that doesn't mean any of it is actually accurate to reality

Elon is throwing seig heils, and you cannot be made to see what your lying eyes are telling you

#31785
2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

1) Elmo will be posting shortly about how the UK is "WOKE ANTI-FREESPEECH DIRTY IMMIGRANTS!"

2) McCroskey will be posing shortly about how, really, this doesn't mean that the UK population opposes AI being allowed to make sexual deepfakes, there's some real nuance we're missing.

#31789
17 hours ago, McCroskey said:

but long form interviews are more authentic and are far more likely to show a person for who they really are.

You really think a long form interview Musk has prepped for and is completely on his guard not to say the wrong thing at is a more authentic and accurate view than his ketamine fueled tweets? I don’t believe you are stupid enough to believe such drivel. The rest of this board certainly is not

#31792

12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

2) McCroskey will be posing shortly about how, really, this doesn't mean that the UK population opposes AI being allowed to make sexual deepfakes, there's some real nuance we're missing.

Don't portray yourself as stupid. I consistently said AI shouldn't be allowed to create CSAM. But, singling out Grok or any single form of AI, and ignoring all others, should not be the push of any government. Create laws that are applied equally to all AI bots and ban all the offenders. If that's happening, then good!

#31793
8 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

It's fairly well established at this point that the use of generative AI makes you dumber. Just saying.

Wives and the Stupid Shit they say is on another board.

#31794
27 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Don't portray yourself as stupid. I consistently said AI shouldn't be allowed to create CSAM. But, singling out Grok or any single form of AI, and ignoring all others, should not be the push of any government. Create laws that are applied equally to all AI bots and ban all the offenders. If that's happening, then good!

I don’t know the answer, but which AI is posting the images to social media the way grok is? ChatGPT or Copilot or Gemni aren’t to my knowledge.

#31795
51 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I don’t know the answer, but which AI is posting the images to social media the way grok is? ChatGPT or Copilot or Gemni aren’t to my knowledge.

Aaaaannd he disappears when faced with a difficult question.

Question #1: Tell us which common, standard publicly available AI programs have been accused of creating CSAM:

  1. Grok?

  2. ChatGPT?

  3. Copilot?

  4. Gemini?

  5. None of the above?

  6. Only one of the above?

Question #2: Which AI program has gone on racist and antisemitic tirades while calling itself MechaHitler?

  1. Grok?

  2. ChatGPT?

  3. Copilot?

  4. Gemini?

  5. None of the above?

  6. Only one of the above?

#31797
11 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I don’t know the answer, but which AI is posting the images to social media the way grok is? ChatGPT or Copilot or Gemni aren’t to my knowledge.

Not en masse. Just a cursory list from Google includes Stabile Diffusion, Cloth Off, Nudifiers (which seems to be a generic term appearing to comprise many bots), Runway ML, and obviously since late last year but to a lesser degree of severity, Grok. In court filings, since all this use of AI was able to be criminalized over the last couple of years in particular, many AI bots used to create and spread CSAM around the web don't appear to be cited in the specific court cases. The BBC recently said users could use Grok to create Level C (lowest level) criminal images, but then turned to non-mainstream bots above to create Level A (worst level) images.

Maybe it was discussed here but supposedly other new laws have even been passed in the US that will require sites like X, Facebook, or others to take down deepfakes within a matter of hours. Still seems too long.

6 hours ago, bolverk said:

Aaaaannd he disappears when faced with a difficult question.

Question #1: Tell us which common, standard publicly available AI programs have been accused of creating CSAM:

  1. Grok?

  2. ChatGPT?

  3. Copilot?

  4. Gemini?

  5. None of the above?

  6. Only one of the above?

Question #2: Which AI program has gone on racist and antisemitic tirades while calling itself MechaHitler?

  1. Grok?

  2. ChatGPT?

  3. Copilot?

  4. Gemini?

  5. None of the above?

  6. Only one of the above?

Was after midnight here and I responded to another post and shut it down. How some of you spend so much time on a message board is beyond me.

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