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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

a 2 part story

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They should put pledge pins on their uniforms.

Everyone still on Twitter should just block Musk. I’m sure he looks at the analytics of how many people have.  

God bless, Elon. He's exposing what many knew to be true. Sure, ideologues will spin it or act like it's nothing, but that's par for the course.

26 minutes ago, jkates said:

God bless, Elon. He spent $44B on a spite store to own the the libs's exposing what many knew to be true. Sure, ideologues will spin it or act like it's nothing, but that's par for the course.

 FIFY.

3 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

People that actually believe Elon is destroying all child predators on the internets have to be pretty dumb.

His PR team working OT.

He should have started with his dad who married his own stepdaughter.

1 hour ago, jkates said:

God bless, Elon. He's exposing what many knew to be true. 

I thought Hunter was the one exposing things?  Elon is just making sure more people hear about it.

2 hours ago, jkates said:

God bless, Elon. He's exposing what many knew to be true. Sure, ideologues will spin it or act like it's nothing, but that's par for the course.

He’s openly lying about everything and his PR “journalists” are openly posting the proof that they’re all lying and you’re still too stupid to realize it. That’s almost impressive.

"Rocket to the top of replies" seems like a rocket to getting put on ignore or blocked (or both if that's what twitter offers) by many thousands of non-troll accounts and seems the exact opposite of a way to fight scams and spam.

"I wish twitter videos were longer" -- anyone here ever had that desire? 

"see half the ads" - or better yet, don't have an account and see zero ads. 

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This show is basically two seasons of pointing and laughing at a thinly disguised Elon and it's worth your time. I think it's a pretty good predictor of what mass space tourism would be like if Musk ever gets it off the ground on the cruise ship level.

 

On 12/9/2022 at 10:56 AM, Chuckie Finster said:

2022 voters:  "Hey Republicans, be less weird"

One month later: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE PLANET IS A THOUSAND TWEET THREAD THAT DETAILS HOW A PRIVATE WEBSITE FOLLOWED IT'S PUBLICALLY PUBLISHED RULES TO MINIMIZE THE SPREAD OF SPAM AND HATE RHETORIC

I thought it was more like how a private website colluded with the gov't to suppress free speech. Private entities can do what they want. You are intentionally burying the headline. Sub headline is Twitter lied about shadowbanning people and banning people against their TOS. Furthermore, appears the CEO was aleep at the wheel on LSD trips in foriegn countries allowing partisans to run the company amuck. 

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16 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Also, this is why you don’t let idiots talk. They ignore pertinent information because it doesn’t support want they want to be true 

Let’s see. Why was it hard to get funding for projects in 2022? To replace CSE employees that left?

 

that's so ridiculous. Even if expenditures were froze and I have dealt with this numerous times in my career you reappropriate to more critical areas. Obviously, there were less critical areas since Elon fired 75% of the workforce and website is fine and at record levels in traffic. Horrible counterpoint.

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8 minutes ago, TMI said:

I thought it was more like how a private website colluded with the gov't to suppress free speech

Tell me you don’t know who was President in 2020, without telling me you don’t know who was President in 2020.

3 minutes ago, TMI said:

and website is fine and at record levels in traffic.

If you consider more bots “fine and at record levels of traffic”, then sure.

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If you consider more bots “fine and at record levels of traffic”, then sure.

prove that or just partisan nonsense. receipts?

7 minutes ago, TMI said:

prove that or just partisan nonsense. receipts?

When I pick up a bunch of followers, or get invites to join conversations, and they have names like tmi2746471 or abc38746, my Spidey sense tingles.

Go home Elmo, you’re drunk again.

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

When I pick up a bunch of followers, or get invites to join conversations, and they have names like tmi2746471 or abc38746, my Spidey sense tingles.

Go home Elmo, you’re drunk again.

LOL so partisan talking points. Got it. Knew it.

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You just sent three PMs over 10-15 minutes pissed that I negged your 15 posts. You’re not some random dude, and I don’t give a fuck whose sock you are.

13 minutes ago, TMI said:

Do I need a internet TRO? You have stalker tendencies. Is this how Surly works? Angry men taking out their frustrations on a random dude posting on the internet. I hope your therapists tells you in the end it isn't them but you. In the end, I hope all this time going through my posts makes you feel better as a man and not pathetic as it seems. I am just glad I had an affect on your life.

12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You just sent three PMs over 10-15 minutes pissed that I negged your 15 posts. You’re not some random dude, and I don’t give a fuck whose sock you are.

You went crazy and went through all my posts on this site and negged them because I was posting in support of Musk and asked for receipts (never supplied). That's odd, no? So I sent you PM's making fun of you doing it. Post the messages. You have my permission. Stalkerish.

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8 minutes ago, TMI said:

You went crazy and went through all my posts on this site and negged them because I was posting in support of Musk and asked for receipts (never supplied). That's odd, no? So I sent you PM's making fun of you doing it. Post the messages. You have my permission. Stalkerish.

In the spirit of Musk. Here are my PM's after @atomheartbevo went through all my posts on this site having nothing to so with this thread and negged them. 

 

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13 minutes ago, TMI said:

OMG, you're that crazy girl that does this. I also heard she will message her friends to so this. You are kinda like Twitter peeps. Hate the message and find a way to censor it. It's why surly has literally no counterthought here. It's been purged. This website is Texags reverse. Have fun!

7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
21 minutes ago, TMI said:

OMG, you're that crazy girl that does this. I also heard she will message her friends to so this. You are kinda like Twitter peeps. Hate the message and find a way to censor it. It's why surly has literally no counterthought here. It's been purged. This website is Texags reverse. Have fun!

LOL look above. Context. You just made my point. I post it all. You try to take 1 message to craft it for a narrative. Twitter Musk issue in nutshell.

24 minutes ago, TMI said:

In the spirit of Musk. Here are my PM's after @atomheartbevo went through all my posts on this site having nothing to so with this thread and negged them. 

 

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This sock is showing a lot of wear already. Maybe if you hadn't gotten a pile of negs back in April this name would last a little longer.

Came out with the HSOs early and often.

"I wish shaggy was back. my buds (all UT grads that used to post here) who are also gone wish it. this place is a liberal sesspool."

 

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

If you consider more bots “fine and at record levels of traffic”, then sure.

still waiting for receipts.... Or was this just he talking point? Transparency is great. The internet early days was made up of guys like Elon and me for that matter. Free speech and borderless. He just thank God got enough $ to do what a lot of us Gen X'ers wanted from the internet. He isn't some evil guy. Lands rockets on ships. The left LOVED him until 1 yr ago. Same guy. He just started to start to speak out what he saw on what he sees as me the town square and the POWER of 3 companies that can do what they want to influence everything. It is scary tbh. Y'all arent concerned upwards of 97% of political donations are to 1 party and those companies control all the internet debate? That should scare everyone. Surly is a little social experiment on a small level. It went from no holds barred on the previous site to now a purged version of it's former self. 

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I gave $400 to Come Back Alive a hole. How about you? Hopefully a little part of what I gave dropped a grenade on one of those mobiks.  Go donate.

https://savelife.in.ua/en/

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1 minute ago, cactusflinthead said:

And I gave to WCK. So what? You're still carrying water for Putin 

This is the insanity I am talking about. I've literally gave to Ukraine to kill russians. So Did Elon. But yet we are putin supporters. it's a weird left narrative.  

22 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

And I gave to WCK. So what? You're still carrying water for Putin 

LOL My Ukrainian grandma would not like you. I went as 17 yr old on vacation in Sevestspol. God rest her soul. You have no clue.

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Regardless of Slava Ukraine, @atomheartbevo is unhinged. Who goes around and negs all posts because I asked to show receipts? 

BTW why is every conspiracy in the last 4 yrs coming true? 

3 hours ago, TMI said:

LOL My Ukrainian grandma would not like you. I went as 17 yr old on vacation in Sevestspol. God rest her soul. You have no clue.

Negged.  No pics of Ukrainian grandma?  Asshole

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3 hours ago, TMI said:

Regardless of Slava Ukraine, @atomheartbevo is unhinged. Who goes around and negs all posts because I asked to show receipts? 

I’m negging you because you’re complaining about getting negged, that’s the only time I do it. 

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Musk is just going full-on Q. Accusing everyone of being pedos and griping about Fauci and pronouns. If you’re looking to do a sober analysis of Twitter‘s past content moderation— this ain’t it, chief. Removing any doubt that this is just a hack job. 
 

 

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5 hours ago, TMI said:

You went crazy and went through all my posts on this site and negged them because I was posting in support of Musk and asked for receipts (never supplied). That's odd, no? So I sent you PM's making fun of you doing it. Post the messages. You have my permission. Stalkerish.

STFU and take your neg. 
 

There’s a conversation to have about the responsibilities of balancing expression, safety, and truth when you run a global platform of unparalleled influence among elites. 
 

We aren’t having that, instead Elon dumped a bunch of raw data to professional trolls like Matt Taibbi (who once wrote a book explaining about how awesome it is to sexually harass his admin staff) to Tweet. And what they tweet is mostly just directing the hate machine at former Twitter employees who did nothing more than their job, albeit in a way that the new owner of Twitter doesn’t like. 
 

The reason we’re doing it this way is because Elon really just wants to target people like you, who don’t have the cognitive capacity to have this talk any other way. Ironically, you’re whining all over this thread about getting necro-negged while cheering on an internet hate mob that’s poring over work decisions made under different management as well as someone’s got-damned university paper. 
 

And yet, even still, I wouldn’t have negged you if you had simply kept posting your galaxy brain takes instead of bitching about neg rep. 

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35 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Normal stuff.

Good things the NYT posted a story literally yesterday how it was impossible to know what Elon’s politics are. 
 

NYT Pitchbot account is more serious these days than the actual NYT. 

Anecdotal, but my Gen Z kiddos and their friends see Elon for what he is and it is not the visionary in the thread title....

 

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Musk is just going full-on Q. Accusing everyone of being pedos and griping about Fauci and pronouns.

His past accusations of people he didn’t like being pedophiles is making a helluva lot more sense now.  He’s clearly got the  personality to be sucked in by the Qanons.  All he needs is to mention Oprah Winfrey, Tom Hanks or JFK Jr  

Betting pool on how long before he publicly accuses Jack and Co. of covering for pedophiles or that twitter was being run by pedophiles before he rescued it?

25 minutes ago, hornian said:

Good things the NYT posted a story literally yesterday how it was impossible to know what Elon’s politics are. 
 

NYT Pitchbot account is more serious these days than the actual NYT. 

Folks should read the article.  It describes how he socially has been libertarian, against widespread covid restrictions, for addressing climate change, and has now since taking over twitter has been against the left on cultural/conspiracy issues. It draws a distinction between "against the left" vs. "independent" vs. "for the right."  

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html

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He has called himself an independent and a centrist, yet “economically right of center, maybe.” He has said he was until recently a supporter of only Democrats and voted for President Biden. He’s encouraged people to vote Republican, which he said he did for the first time this year. Last year, he once even declared himself indifferent about politics, saying he’d rather stay out of it altogether.

Elon Musk, ever a bundle of contradictions and inconsistencies, has long made his politics tricky to pin down. To many of his critics, though, his relentless flurry of tweets in the six weeks since he took over Twitter has exposed his true conservative bent, and intensified their fears that he would make the social network more susceptible to right-wing misinformation.

And at times, he’s made it hard to argue with that. He has said he’d welcome former President Donald J. Trump back on Twitter; suggested that Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband was lying about the attack at their home that left him hospitalized; and reinstated accounts that have trafficked in offensive ethnic stereotypes and bigotry, including for the artist formerly known as Kanye West. (Mr. Musk later suspended Mr. West’s account again after the rapper-entrepreneur posted an image of a swastika.)

His copious tweeting has generated huge amounts of attention. In a 24-hour period late this week, he tweeted more than 40 times, often with little rhyme or reason. He criticized the Biden administration’s deal with Russia that freed Brittney Griner, the Women’s National Basketball Association star. He asked Elton John to clarify his complaint about misinformation flourishing unchecked on Twitter. At times, Mr. Musk was acting like Twitter’s in-house customer service representative, boasting about new features and improved functions.

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And maybe that is a big part of the point — improving the image of his new $44 billion property, which he has said repeatedly is in dire financial straits.

Yet Mr. Musk, who did not respond to a request for comment, continues to defy easy political categorization. His views have been described as libertarian, though these days his politics seem more contrarian than anything else. He is more clear about what he is against than what he is for.

It’s true Mr. Musk certainly sounds a lot like a Republican — and, sometimes, a lot like Mr. Trump — with his missives on Twitter against “woke” politics and Covid restrictions, his attacks on “elite” media and his efforts to draw attention to allegations that Hunter Biden profited from his father’s political clout.

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But where Mr. Musk has seemed most in line with the G.O.P. of Mr. Trump is in the tenor of his political commentary, which if anything seems more spiritedly anti-left than ideologically pro-right. While he has not been shy about sharing his disdain for many Democrats, his enthusiasm for Republicans has been more muted. He has stressed repeatedly that his problems are with extremists on both ends of the political spectrum.

“To be clear, my historical party affiliation has been Independent, with an actual voting history of entirely Democrat until this year,” he wrote on Twitter the day before the midterm election. “And I’m open to the idea of voting Democrat again in the future.”

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As with many people who describe themselves as politically independent now, the hostility Mr. Musk harbors toward Democrats appears to have drawn him closer to the Republican Party over the last few years. He considers himself as part of the “center 80% of people, who wish to learn, laugh & engage in reasoned debate.”

He has eagerly encouraged his followers to weigh in with their views on the country’s culture wars and traded tweets with some of the right’s favorite punching bags, like Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. When she criticized his plan to charge Twitter users $8 a month to have a verified account with one of the social media service’s signature blue check marks — “Lmao at a billionaire earnestly trying to sell people on the idea that ‘free speech’ is actually a $8/mo subscription plan,” she wrote — he dismissed her.

“Your feedback is appreciated, now pay $8,” Mr. Musk shot back.

Many of his recent tweets have had that kind of “own the libs” tone, the shorthand on the right for when conservatives think they’ve deftly, often sarcastically, swatted down a liberal. A couple of weeks ago, he posted video on Twitter of a closet full of T-shirts with the slogan “#stay woke” that he said he had found at the social media company’s headquarters. Then he followed up with a tweet that linked to a Justice Department report that undercut one of the central narratives of the mass protests against police brutality: that Michael Brown, a Black teenager killed by the police in Ferguson, Mo., had his hands raised when a white officer shot him.

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On occasion, his remarks have raised concerns that he has planted himself firmly among right-wing conspiracy theorists. When he tweeted about the attack on Ms. Pelosi’s husband, he shared the unfounded claim that there was “a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye.” He later deleted the tweet, which linked to an article from a fringe website.

He also said he would support Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida for president in 2024, though his endorsement was not especially resounding. He merely replied “Yes” when someone on Twitter asked him. Mr. DeSantis, a hard-line conservative, would be an odd choice for someone who professes to want centrist governance in Washington.

Mr. Musk has always claimed his concerns with Twitter’s previous management were about the ability of a small group of the company’s employees whom he described as “far left” to censor content. And over the past week, he has cheered on tweets about internal communications before he took over. The communications, which were given to two writers who have posted their findings on Twitter, calling them the Twitter Files, showed how the company went about deciding what information got suppressed.

It’s been a mixed bag of revelations. Some showed how Twitter employees made it harder to see tweets from a Stanford University professor who warned about how Covid lockdowns could harm children — a view many public health experts have come around to accept well after the fact. Other documents show how more conventional, conspiracy-theory-embracing conservatives were shut down, like Dan Bongino, the radio host who was one of the biggest amplifiers of lies about the 2020 election.

Mr. Musk has not professed to have any profound attachment to Republican policies, though, which is consistent with his posture before taking over Twitter.

He has been highly critical of climate change deniers and said he’s proud of how Tesla forced the rest of the automobile industry to embrace electric vehicles. In 2020, he revealed that he’d spoken to Mr. Trump numerous times about the importance of developing sustainable energy, which the former president dismissed in favor of traditional fossil fuel-based sources. And Mr. Musk quit Mr. Trump’s business councils after the administration pulled out of the Paris climate accord.

In an interview with The New York Times in 2020, he described his politics as “middle-of-the-road.” “I’m socially very liberal. And then economically right of center, maybe, or center. I don’t know. I’m obviously not a communist.”

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His political giving supports that claim. According to the Federal Election Commission, which reports spending in federal but not state races, he has donated just shy of $1 million since 2003 to candidates as conservative as former President George W. Bush and as liberal as Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat. More recently, in 2020, he donated to senators of both political parties — including Chris Coons and Gary Peters, both Democrats, and Susan Collins and John Cornyn, both Republicans.

Often, it seems, his posts are motivated by personal pique, not political philosophy. He’s criticized the Biden administration, for instance, as “not the friendliest” and for excluding Tesla, the world’s largest electric vehicle maker, from a White House summit on zero-emission vehicles in August 2021. His speculation on the reason for the exclusion: General Motors and the other car companies invited are union companies; Tesla is not. “Seems to be controlled by unions,” he complained at the time.

Many of the views he has espoused on Twitter over the last two years have become popular in today’s Republican Party but are hardly exclusive to card-carrying Republicans. His criticism of progressives he views as overly censorious and sanctimonious is a sentiment many on the left have expressed. And his public condemnation of strict Covid containment measures in 2020 channeled what would become a growing skepticism of widespread public health restrictions. Though he was more exercised about them than most. “Fascist,” he once declared.

Often, his tweets can seem to imply he leans in one direction when it’s just as likely that he is trying to court controversy. How to interpret, for instance, a post last week of what he said was an image of his bedside table? It had a revolver on it and a musket in a wooden case decorated with an image of George Washington crossing the Delaware River during the Revolutionary War.

“Greetings, I’m Musket, Elon Musket,” he wrote.

A few days later, he sounded pleased with himself as he remarked on the way Twitter had changed since his purchase was completed in October. “So many interesting posts on Twitter these days!”

 

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He’s a toddler. Just like so many other of our issues coming from having unserious people in charge of things, a guy who has basically ridden the right waves to a paper fortune has bought himself a bully pulpit.  Whatever, that’s his right in the US (not in other countries as he’s finding out).  What I’m baffled by is the millions out there who think a toddlers thoughts are remotely interesting, much less worth considering.  That should be the real issue.

 

And TMI should go crawl back into his troll hole.

I find Elmo’s public descent into madness to be fascinating. Oddly enough, his thorough failure to give good social media….gives good social media. 
 

But being entertaining via self own tends to have a short half life.

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Like all red pilled teamsters. They only accept the information that supports what they want to be true without considering the information that opposes their view. 
 

Fact: Musk supplied Starlink to Ukraine to help fight Russian invaders

In this thread, I applauded Musk for this action when it was announced.

New information came 

Fact: Musk was paid by the US Government to supply Starlink 

Fact: Musk tried to get the US Government to pay him a monthly fee for this service 

Fact: Musk proposed via Twitter that Ukraine should negotiate and give Russia Crimea and Donbas. (Russian talking points)

I mocked Musk for trying to shakedown the government for money after pretending to donate Starlink, and for promoting Russian talking points after Russia has committed genocide. 
 

Supporting a person or cause no matter what happens is what people in cults do. Critical thinking requires evaluating all information 

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20 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Folks should read the article.  It describes how he socially has been libertarian, against widespread covid restrictions, for addressing climate change, and has now since taking over twitter has been against the left on cultural/conspiracy issues. It draws a distinction between "against the left" vs. "independent" vs. "for the right."  

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html

 

Yeah, I’m gonna have to disagree. He’s spent the last 6 weeks or so amplifying not just “right leaning” but full blown fringe right wing conspiracy theories. I don’t care what the previous twenty or so years says about his political stances, he’s shown his true colors. 
 

Let’s use this analogy: one could spend their entire adult life having only consensual sexual relationships, but if they go off the deep end and start drugging people at bars and having non-consensual sex with them after taking them back to their place for for six weeks, that person is a rapist. It doesn’t matter that the person didn’t rape anyone for decades - the 6 week rape spree showed their true colors. And they would forever have to register as a sex offender once convicted. 

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