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4 hours ago, Macklemore said:

Based. I have been engaging with X more than ever now. Still the go to spot for sports breaking news and team related content. The algorithm for tweets espousing similar political views has been great. Nice to not have nationalist voices silenced anymore.

This bitch pays for Twitter hahahahaha

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

As his proclivity to go on multi-day meth benders while bottoming for a strange men. But I'm sure his nationalist friends won't mind his brown skin and homosexual proclivities. The funny part is, as a heterosexual white man, I'll get to watch when they string him up while he shouts "but I'm on YOUR side!!"

His isues with addiction are not relevant, and to bring that up devalues your positon.

I agree with the rest of your post.

 

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Yes it is weird that he agrees with and boosts antisemitic accounts. 


Is there any objective evidence that Twitter boosts antisemitic accounts? 

1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Is there any objective evidence that Twitter boosts antisemitic accounts? 

Besides following them and responding positively to them?

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

When I search "Elon" right now on Twitter, every single Top tweet is from a right-winger or pro-Elon account. Quite the algorithm from this asshole. 

 

Between elmo and now kissinger bluesky is a party atmosphere tonight.

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16 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Is there any objective evidence that Twitter boosts antisemitic accounts? 

He allowed some of the most anti-semitic, racist people in the world who had been formerly banned back on twitter and then he gave them a way to get their tweets and replies seen by all simply by paying $10 a month. I'm sure there's other examples.

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So he's all in on the Qanon bullshit.

Oh yes. That was last week I'm thinking. I'll find it...it's what caused the Washington Post to stop posting there...'the last straw' they said.

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Musk really has gone off the deep end. Living in his own fantasy world.

Say what you want about Howard Hughes, but he or his handlers tried to keep a lot of the batshittery out of the public eye.

Also, apparently CNBC wasn't expecting Musk to start dropping f-bombs.

If anybody wants to watch the full 82 minutes or so, here it is, but the replies are full of fanbois.

 

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What he deletes and doesn't delete could be him listening to a lawyer.

Completely off his rocker. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Completely off his rocker. 
 

Pizza-gate level bullshit, fully racist dipshittery.

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When we say Go Fuck Yourselves, we're really saying, "Pull up a chair and grab a cold one out of our cooler, friend."

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"Lets see how Earth responds to that"

Some of you people just refuse to be entertained. 

18 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

"Lets see how Earth responds to that"

Some of you people just refuse to be entertained. 

I find the show to be highly entertaining. Just certain woke people who feel the need to piss in everyone else's Wheaties is kind of a problem. 

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

When we say Go Fuck Yourselves, we're really saying, "Pull up a chair and grab a cold one out of our cooler, friend."

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Business school is the real mind virus

“Let’s see how earth responds to that”

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It absolutely blows my mind that anyone still buys cars from this fucking clown (or that they ever did, really).

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I listened to that clip and again I will say that it really gets under my skin that this is what people will think most people on the spectrum are like. He is absolutely, positively the worst representative that any of us on the spectrum could have. He is a drug addled mess. That was the ramblings from someone whose mind has gone squarely off the deep end and is never coming back and yet he has enormous sway in the world. 

Just watch that video. And then realize there's people, supposedly functional adults, who stan this clown.

His mannerisms look like those of a space alien wrapped in a human skin suit; his words sound like those of an 11 year old arguing with his mom about having more video game time. He makes Zuck seem human by comparison.

5 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

I find the show to be highly entertaining. Just certain woke people who feel the need to piss in everyone else's Wheaties is kind of a problem. 

Yes, we know that you are gleeful like icono to see this racism and antisemitism get boosted. Finally, extreme nationalism for the common clay of the West!

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In some respects I agree with Elon’s sentiment. If any advertiser is not willing to ignore anything Elon says, they should permanently leave X. They’re wrong to temporarily pause advertising and wait for an apology or an explanation.

The way he looks to the crowd expecting huge agreement is super cringe 

On the plus side, if he hasn’t already it’s probably a certainty that Icono will start doing drugs again to emulate his idol, which should be very entertaining for the rest of us.

What's the point of having the ultimate fuck you money if you don't sometimes say, fuck you?

Of course this board that has spent the last however many pages concern trolling about how advertisers would sink Elon is stung that he is apparently unbothered. He basically said fuck you to all of those posters too. Looks like they'll have to find another weapon to try to take X/Elon down. Perhaps more frivolous federal lawsuits or maybe direct legal action against him is up next?

The reason that Elon/Twitter/X has caused such a frenzy since day 1 is that, as he said in the same interview, "The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous."

That's it. 

8 hours ago, BeardIP said:

I read Andrew Ross Sorkin (interviewer) newsletter every morning. Cannot wait to read his reaction to this.

He should have pressed him more, but I get the sense he was taken aback by the lunacy in front of him.

5 minutes ago, Goliad said:

What's the point of having the ultimate fuck you money if you don't sometimes say, fuck you?

Of course this board that has spent the last however many pages concern trolling about how advertisers would sink Elon is stung that he is apparently unbothered. He basically said fuck you to all of those posters too. Looks like they'll have to find another weapon to try to take X/Elon down. Perhaps more frivolous federal lawsuits or maybe direct legal action against him is up next?

The reason that Elon/Twitter/X has caused such a frenzy since day 1 is that, as he said in the same interview, "The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous."

That's it. 

You think Elon is unbothered? I see it the opposite. He didn't run to Israel for a vacation, nor he did go off in that interview because he was unbothered. Unbothered is ignoring what people are saying or doing.

Now does it matter to Elon's bottom line if Twitter is run at a loss as a passion project of his? I'm sure he can afford it but Twitter still represents 1/6 of his net worth. Or at least it did at one point. Perhaps now it's 1/15.

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The way he looks to the crowd expecting huge agreement is super cringe 

Elon:  Can I get an “amen”, earth!

Earth:

Elon:  Earth?

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

You think Elon is unbothered? I see it the opposite. He didn't run to Israel for a vacation, nor he did go off in that interview because he was unbothered. Unbothered is ignoring what people are saying or doing.

Now does it matter to Elon's bottom line if Twitter is run at a loss as a passion project of his? I'm sure he can afford it but Twitter still represents 1/6 of his net worth. Or at least it did at one point. Perhaps now it's 1/15.

I think he probably wants to rehab his image as far as clarifying his thoughts, or clearing up people's view of him as an antisemite. If that helps keep some advertisers, fine. Telling other prominent advertisers to GFY directly tells me he is unbothered by their input.

I saw early last year that twitter had 1.5B in debt servicing and 1.5B in expenses. Assuming they don't bring in a penny, that's 3B a year loss. He currently owns 423 Million shares of TSLA. At 244 a share, that's 103B at his disposal. I think he can ride it out if he really wants. From his remarks, it seems like he'd be open to that. He basically told the CEO of Disney that he couldn't money whip him, soooo.

 

12 minutes ago, Goredho said:

He should have pressed him more, but I get the sense he was taken aback by the lunacy in front of him.

I only watched the first 20 minutes, but I thought Sorkin did a good job. It was not what he expected. You also have to understand that Sorkin's baseline is kissing big wigs' asses on TV, so he was unlikely to flip on the spot at a big event.

5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Just watch that video. And then realize there's people, supposedly functional adults, who stan this clown.

That's really the worst thing.  When you realize how much a huge chunk of society is at a point of "let's bundle all of the worst traits a human can have.....and THAT'S what I admire most," it's pretty fucking discouraging.

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Yes, we know that you are gleeful like icono to see this racism and antisemitism get boosted. Finally, extreme nationalism for the common clay of the West!

A shortcut in determining how shitty someone is can be looking at their fan club.  Elon draws tears of joy from shitbags like Icono and Ian Miles Cheong.  These are LITERALLY people who talk with masturbatory joy about shooting migrants, and Hitler being a hero.  When the worst fucking people on the planet love you...you're clearly a piece of shit.

I watched (well listened to) most of the video.  Holy fuck.  I couldn't stop.  

Here's the complete copy

On the one hand, he bitches about advertisers, but then publicly admits to buying their latest and greatest products (in this case an iPhone). And speaking of, he claims that no monkeys have died as a result of the implant itself, and in fact they live in a "monkey paradise" (his words).

His mind feels like a very wild storm..

There were so many little moments where it was clear that something was....fuck, at least Howard Hughes had the dignity to hide out in a Houston penthouse.

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32 minutes ago, Goliad said:

What's the point of having the ultimate fuck you money if you don't sometimes say, fuck you?

Of course this board that has spent the last however many pages concern trolling about how advertisers would sink Elon is stung that he is apparently unbothered. He basically said fuck you to all of those posters too. Looks like they'll have to find another weapon to try to take X/Elon down. Perhaps more frivolous federal lawsuits or maybe direct legal action against him is up next?

The reason that Elon/Twitter/X has caused such a frenzy since day 1 is that, as he said in the same interview, "The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous."

That's it. 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The way he looks to the crowd expecting huge agreement is super cringe 

This happened multiple times.  He was confused that people weren't agreeing with him.

11 minutes ago, Goliad said:

I think he probably wants to rehab his image as far as clarifying his thoughts, or clearing up people's view of him as an antisemite.

I watched the interview.  On the one hand, he said it was his worst post (out of his tens of thousands), but on the other hand, I don't think he has a fucking clue about why it upset people and why he should have to apologize.  I don't. There is a disconnect there, and he's not reading the room and he's confused.

I think that's because it's an interview, and not him retweeting or liking a post or tossing out a one-word response to amplify somebody else's post, and then immediately getting a bunch of likes and comments (aka a dopamine hit).  He looked for that approval.

11 minutes ago, Goliad said:

Telling other prominent advertisers to GFY directly tells me he is unbothered by their input.

It's the opposite.  He's very bothered.  He wanted the crowd to stand up and cheer when he told them to fuck themselves.  He was...either confused or distressed that he didn't get the audience's approval.

11 minutes ago, Goliad said:

I only watched the first 20 minutes, but I thought Sorkin did a good job. It was not what he expected. You also have to understand that Sorkin's baseline is kissing big wigs' asses on TV, so he was unlikely to flip on the spot at a big event.

You should have watched a lot more of it, it got weird.  I can only imagine what Linda Yaccarino was thinking.

I honestly do not think the "Go Fuck Yourself" thing was the weirdest thing, although it will be the most damaging and the one people will take away.

14 minutes ago, Goliad said:

I think he probably wants to rehab his image as far as clarifying his thoughts, or clearing up people's view of him as an antisemite. If that helps keep some advertisers, fine. Telling other prominent advertisers to GFY directly tells me he is unbothered by their input.

Telling CEOs to GFY is telling even more of companies to not advertise on X. I'm sure CEOs run the spectrum from needing their ass to get kissed to some not caring as long as they get results. But zero of them want to be disrespected by a vendor. And for them, X is a vendor. Their attitude will be that if X doesn't want their business (money), there are other platforms, which are not shrinking, that do.

And no one is saying that Musk can't afford to run X as a losing passion project. You're creating a strawman argument. Just because Musk can afford to run X into the ground, it doesn't mean that he's happy with the losses. And if he's unbothered why does X and his tweet scandals appear to take up a large percent of his attention?

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36 minutes ago, Goliad said:

What's the point of having the ultimate fuck you money if you don't sometimes say, fuck you?

Of course this board that has spent the last however many pages concern trolling about how advertisers would sink Elon is stung that he is apparently unbothered. He basically said fuck you to all of those posters too. Looks like they'll have to find another weapon to try to take X/Elon down. Perhaps more frivolous federal lawsuits or maybe direct legal action against him is up next?

The reason that Elon/Twitter/X has caused such a frenzy since day 1 is that, as he said in the same interview, "The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous."

That's it. 

Imagine watching that video and thinking that Elon is "unbothered."

God damn you people are insane.

22 minutes ago, Goliad said:

What's the point of having the ultimate fuck you money if you don't sometimes say, fuck you?

Of course this board that has spent the last however many pages concern trolling about how advertisers would sink Elon is stung that he is apparently unbothered. He basically said fuck you to all of those posters too. Looks like they'll have to find another weapon to try to take X/Elon down. Perhaps more frivolous federal lawsuits or maybe direct legal action against him is up next?

The reason that Elon/Twitter/X has caused such a frenzy since day 1 is that, as he said in the same interview, "The degree to which old Twitter was basically a sock puppet of the government was ridiculous."

That's it. 

 

13 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

You think Elon is unbothered? I see it the opposite. He didn't run to Israel for a vacation, nor he did go off in that interview because he was unbothered. Unbothered is ignoring what people are saying or doing.

Now does it matter to Elon's bottom line if Twitter is run at a loss as a passion project of his? I'm sure he can afford it but Twitter still represents 1/6 of his net worth. Or at least it did at one point. Perhaps now it's 1/15.

Elon likely won’t feel a ripple when Twitter goes under.  Also likely true of the half dozen c-suite execs, too.  And the brands pulling their advertising aren’t going to notice the loss of any return on their marketing budget spent on Twitter. If their business was dependent on Twitter, they would still be there.  They have done the math to see how much it costs them to be associated with Elon vs how much they make advertising on his social media platform and made a logical free-market decision to say we’ll be taking our business elsewhere.

The ones that are going to feel the pain are the ~1000 employees of Twitter.  In this case, the “fuck you” Elon’s money enables him to deliver is being directed at his employees more than anyone.  The CEO just publicly said the company is being killed by advertisers leaving the platform while telling those advertisers who could keep it alive to fuck off.  Few who are not independently wealthy themselves are going to want to accept that as leadership they will follow with their own financial well being at stake.  Expect an exodus.

1 minute ago, Goredho said:

The ones that are going to feel the pain are the ~1000 employees of Twitter.  

When Elon ultimately fires them, and doesn't pay any contractual/promised severance, he will blame advertisers for his business failing.

Just now, Goredho said:

Elon likely won’t feel a ripple when Twitter goes under.  Also likely true of the half dozen c-suite execs, too.  And the brands pulling their advertising aren’t going to notice the loss of any return on their marketing budget spent on Twitter. If their business was dependent on Twitter, they would still be there.  They have done the math to see how much it costs them to be associated with Elon vs how much they make advertising on his social media platform and made a logical free-market decision to say we’ll be taking our business elsewhere.

The ones that are going to feel the pain are the ~1000 employees of Twitter.  In this case, the “fuck you” Elon’s money enables him to deliver is being directed at his employees more than anyone.  The CEO just publicly said the company is being killed by advertisers leaving the platform while telling those advertisers who could keep it alive to fuck off.  Few who are not independently wealthy themselves are going to want to accept that as leadership they will follow with their own financial well being at stake.  Expect an exodus.

financially? sure.

but personally? absolutely. it smokes the concept that everything he touches is gold, that he is a modern day tony stark, that he is some amazing human / genius, and that he knows what he is doing across the board. if you think this is the kind of thing that has no downstream impact on his other companies (see what's happening with TSLA) and with the US Government (you think they want their cart tied exclusively to someone that unhinged?) you are truly a dumbass. if you are some brilliant AI engineer are you going to work on his xAI program or literally anywhere else in the world? if you need an EV are you exclusively looking at TSLA anymore?

and Fortune 500 ad execs? a ton of them already stopped advertising on twitter long ago because the ROI wasn't, and hasn't, been there for some time. this isn't a new thing that happened when Musk bought the company, they already were spending more money on other platforms over twitter. this just makes it incredibly easy for those companies to stop spending. and btw, he doesn't even get that what he needs to do is get the big 4 agencies on board with bringing back advertising, not the CEOs of these companies (who don't really make the marketing decisions anyway - that's literally the CMO's job)  - how can those guys or the CMO's recommend to anyone to buy advertising on twitter when there is a very real chance that your ad shows up next to some white power tweet or someone praising Hitler?! they can't - because that's the kind of thing that if it happens and if your name is on it gets you fired as the agency of record or as the CMO.

and who really gives a fuck about those 1000 employees. he nuked everyone (well 80%+ of em) and if you are still there 12 months later and haven't hit the eject button to find a job - ANY JOB - anywhere else in the tech sector i really have no empathy for you. your CEO fired the majority of the company with no clear reason who was laid off or why and decimated teams that were actually needed. he has talked so much shit and run off a ton of people and dollars that made up 90% (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) of the company's revenue, any other company on the planet would have led to him being ousted by anyone else with a pulse. literally. any other company on the planet whose CEO ran off what made up 90% of the company's revenue would have been ousted by the investors, the board, anyone and everyone.

he continues to crater the value of the company (and let's be honest, TWTR doesn't pay particularly well and you are staying for that stock option bullshit he is offering) which negatively impacts recruiting and retention both.

if you are still at twitter either you are shitty and nobody will hire you or you choose to be there because you believe in what your leadership is saying. or you are too dumb to see the writing on the wall (firing 80% of the company, running off 90% of your revenue, firing a bunch of execs, not paying your bills *for products you have used*, pausing all non essential travel, asking employees to come up with ways to find new revenue) - you get what you deserve at this point.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

The way he looks to the crowd expecting huge agreement is super cringe 

Vibe: from outside of his brain looking in, you can't understand it. From inside of his mind, you can't explain it he doesn't understand it either. Seems familiar somehow...

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

financially? sure.

but personally? absolutely. it smokes the concept that everything he touches is gold, that he is a modern day tony stark, that he is some amazing human / genius, and that he knows what he is doing across the board. if you think this is the kind of thing that has no downstream impact on his other companies (see what's happening with TSLA) and with the US Government (you think they want their cart tied exclusively to someone that unhinged?) you are truly a dumbass. if you are some brilliant AI engineer are you going to work on his xAI program or literally anywhere else in the world? if you need an EV are you exclusively looking at TSLA anymore?

and Fortune 500 ad execs? a ton of them already stopped advertising on twitter long ago because the ROI wasn't, and hasn't, been there for some time. this isn't a new thing that happened when Musk bought the company, they already were spending more money on other platforms over twitter. this just makes it incredibly easy for those companies to stop spending. and btw, he doesn't even get that what he needs to do is get the big 4 agencies on board with bringing back advertising, not the CEOs of these companies (who don't really make the marketing decisions anyway - that's literally the CMO's job)  - how can those guys or the CMO's recommend to anyone to buy advertising on twitter when there is a very real chance that your ad shows up next to some white power tweet or someone praising Hitler?! they can't - because that's the kind of thing that if it happens and if your name is on it gets you fired as the agency of record or as the CMO.

and who really gives a fuck about those 1000 employees. he nuked everyone (well 80%+ of em) and if you are still there 12 months later and haven't hit the eject button to find a job - ANY JOB - anywhere else in the tech sector i really have no empathy for you. your CEO fired the majority of the company with no clear reason who was laid off or why and decimated teams that were actually needed. he has talked so much shit and run off a ton of people and dollars that made up 90% (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) of the company's revenue, any other company on the planet would have led to him being ousted by anyone else with a pulse. literally. any other company on the planet whose CEO ran off what made up 90% of the company's revenue would have been ousted by the investors, the board, anyone and everyone.

he continues to crater the value of the company (and let's be honest, TWTR doesn't pay particularly well and you are staying for that stock option bullshit he is offering) which negatively impacts recruiting and retention both.

if you are still at twitter either you are shitty and nobody will hire you or you choose to be there because you believe in what your leadership is saying. or you are too dumb to see the writing on the wall (firing 80% of the company, running off 90% of your revenue, firing a bunch of execs, not paying your bills *for products you have used*, pausing all non essential travel, asking employees to come up with ways to find new revenue) - you get what you deserve at this point.

 

 

 

I’m not asking you to feel sympathy for them, I’m saying it is they and not the brands leaving Twitter that are going to feel the effects of Elon’s “Fuck You.”

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20 minutes ago, Goliad said:

I think he probably wants to rehab his image as far as clarifying his thoughts, or clearing up people's view of him as an antisemite.

There's something else here, and I think people like you miss it for whatever reason.  Maybe you don't do your research, I don't know.

When you have an online forum, whether it be twitter or a message board or whatever, well in the case of something like Surly, it's a bunch of mostly 30-somethings to 50-somethings farting around, blowing off steam about this or that team or sport, and just being funny or trolling each other or talking about common interests. Many/most of us in real life are not like our online personas - for instance, you could go with Nicole to a Rainey Street bar and not wind up face down in Town Lake (unless you fucked around).

Elon and Twitter? That is him.  Both because he's making the comments that he does under his real, verified name, but also because he echoes a lot of his online postings in interviews and videos.  When he veers into promoting somebody that's antisemitic or amplifying a batshit racist conspiracy theory by retweeting, responding to, or quoting somebody, he's putting his name on that.  When he's promoting some dumb fucking Qanon pizzagate bullshit, he's putting his name on that and telling you that he believes it. He's wanting to get the likes and draw out the idiots and get them to praise him.

And if you say "he's just providing a platform for everybody and believes in free speech", well you're wrong (and not just because his fanbois don't understand the 1st Amendment).  When he unbanned all of the white supremacists and antisemites and conspiracy nuts, at that one moment in time, he could claim that he was just providing a platform and that he believes in absolute free speech. When he allowed them to bug their moms to give them $8 a month to be verified, at that moment, he started down the path of supporting and amplifying them, because he made a policy change that allowed them some legitimacy that they did not have before.

When he quotes, responds to, likes, or retweets an antisemite or a batshit conspiracy theory, he is doing so as @elonmusk, owner of Twitter, CEO and partial owner of Tesla, and partial owner of SpaceX, and he is amplifying that person or that message or that conspiracy theory to his 165 million followers.

You don't get to say, and he doesn't get to say "that's not who Elon Musk is" because he literally put his name and face on whatever it is that he liked or retweeted or responded to and he amplified it to his 165 million followers.

He could respond to or retweet the antisemite shit or the batshit Qanon conspiracy crap with an anonymous account and nobody would be the wiser, but he doesn't. He does it as @elonmusk, because he needs those likes and retweets.

24 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Imagine watching that video and thinking that Elon is "unbothered."

God damn you people are insane.

It looked to me that he's reached the realization that this is how it's going to be. Then you have to embrace it.

8 minutes ago, NoName said:

but personally? absolutely. it smokes the concept that everything he touches is gold, that he is a modern day tony stark, that he is some amazing human / genius, and that he knows what he is doing across the board. if you think this is the kind of thing that has no downstream impact on his other companies (see what's happening with TSLA) and with the US Government (you think they want their cart tied exclusively to someone that unhinged?) you are truly a dumbass. if you are some brilliant AI engineer are you going to work on his xAI program or literally anywhere else in the world? if you need an EV are you exclusively looking at TSLA anymore?

He actually dodges the question early on if he regrets buying Twitter. But, I think he's now pot committed personally.

It's obvious that the government/media do not want X to continue. The time tested ad/media boycott is evidently not going to work so it will be interesting to see what they come up with next.

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