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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

USAID: provides a lot of bang for the buck.  Provides real-deal strategic benefit both at home and abroad.

Good. Then they should be resilient to a full and transparent auditing of their spending. 

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4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Good. Then they should be resilient to a full and transparent auditing of their spending. 

. . . and that's not happening.  The spending is being cut because DEI, something something.

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9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Good. Then they should be resilient to a full and transparent auditing of their spending. 

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Because....

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

. . . and that's not happening.  The spending is being cut because DEI, something something.

...This.

If what was announced was "we are going to perform a full and transparent audit of the spending of USAID [or any other agency]," functionally everyone would say "cool, go for it."

That, of course, is entirely different than what is actually happening.  How about you speak to what is actually happening, instead of moving the goalposts and concluding that expenditure X is by definition non-essential because it's under 1% of the budget?

11 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Good. Then they should be resilient to a full and transparent auditing of their spending. 

 

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

. . . and that's not happening.  The spending is being cut because DEI, something something.

Correct. Elon and the guys from Pied Piper have skipped right past auditing and are into the cutting phase. (That's the best case scenario because who the fuck really knows what kind of info Elon is truly harvesting from the classified files.)

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My man Brisket, just let it go. You can’t change someone’s mind who showed up intent on just trolling 

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

How about you speak to what is actually happening

We just shot a government entity that had a history of funding torture training in south america into the sun. I am ok with that. I think that the farmers will be fine. 

ITT people who've never heard of USAID before this week express strong expert opinions on its efficacy and merit.

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

We just shot a government entity that had a history of funding torture training in south america into the sun. I am ok with that. I think that the farmers will be fine. 

And someday, when somebody buns you down, instead of weighing all of the things you've done, we can say "someone just took out someone who is a known liar.  I'm okay with that."*

 

* Because every single human has told a lie at some point in their life.  If the benchmark for whether it's okay to destroy something or someone is "has it ever done anything I don't morally agree with," then we should exterminate all humans and all human endeavors.  FFS, Mother Teresa surely did something bad/evil at some point in her life.  The sane approach to....literally everything....is to evaluate it in its full measure.  You, on the other hand, are literally espousing the logical fallacy of "if person/endeavor X has ever done a single thing wrong, then he/it should be destroyed."  That is incredibly stupid.

But, it does fit the pattern.  Yet again.....there's literally nothing that Trump and Elon can do that you don't support.  It's amazing, you claim you don't care for them, yet you are their most steadfast defender on this board.  Hell, your statements that you don't care for them have been proven to be a lie, so I don't even need to look back in your deep past to find a lie.  I can find it right here in these threads.

12 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

ITT people who've never heard of USAID before this week express strong expert opinions on its efficacy and merit.

You are ignoring the people on this board and in this very thread who have direct experience with/knowledge of USAID, or at least pretty strong secondhand knowledge.  This week is not the first that most of us have heard of USAID.

Do you think that, in going after something that is a tiny sliver of our total budget, Elon is 1) actually pursuing a goal of fiscal responsibility, or 2) pursuing a personal agenda/vendetta?  Because the equivalent of this is me declaring that we must get control of our household budget, and me starting by throwing out all of the decorative soaps in the guest bathroom and forbidding the purchase of any future decorative soaps, then strutting around and saying "look at me, the budget slasher!"

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

You are ignoring the people on this board and in this very thread who have direct experience with/knowledge of USAID, or at least pretty strong secondhand knowledge.  This week is not the first that most of us have heard of USAID.

Do you think that, in going after something that is a tiny sliver of our total budget, Elon is 1) actually pursuing a goal of fiscal responsibility, or 2) pursuing a personal agenda/vendetta?  Because the equivalent of this is me declaring that we must get control of our household budget, and me starting by throwing out all of the decorative soaps in the guest bathroom and forbidding the purchase of any future decorative soaps, then strutting around and saying "look at me, the budget slasher!"

Elon can multitask.  $40 billion annually here.  $40 billion there.  It adds up to real money.  Nothing like the $200 billion we've handed over to Ukraine, $100 billion which disappeared like a fart in the wind.

Brisket on board with obfuscating torture training in latin american countries and simultaneously not understanding how USAID as an entity is viewed by others throughout the world is non-shocking. 

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

$100 billion which disappeared like a fart in the wind.

Source?

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

 $100 billion which disappeared like a fart in the wind.

Zelenskyy has said as much on camera.

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket on board with obfuscating torture training in latin american countries and simultaneously not understanding how USAID as an entity is viewed by others throughout the world is non-shocking. 

Actually, my statement presumed, without questioning, that your allegation is correct.  I am a grown-ass man.  I am aware that every single institution of any real size and duration  will have at least one (usually more) black marks on its record.  And USAID's track record, particularly in the hottest era of the Cold War, includes more than one example of shitty actions.

You have decreed that having any moral black mark merits total destruction.  As in, the total ledger of good and bad is irrelevant.  If there is an entry on the "bad" side of the ledger, it has to go.  I simply noted the folly of such an approach, as your personal ledger - and the ledger of every living human and every human institution -- surely has at least one such entry.  It's a stupid rule, and one that, if you apply it consistently, means that every human and every enterprise must burn.

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Source?

AP interview with the president of Ukraine. 

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket on board with obfuscating torture training in latin american countries and simultaneously not understanding how USAID as an entity is viewed by others throughout the world is non-shocking. 

You quite literally had no knowledge of USAID one week ago, so take your pompous self somewhere else.

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

You quite literally had no knowledge of USAID one week ago, so take your pompous self somewhere else.

Projection. 

I resisted until this morning then decided life is too short for that kind of stupid trolling.  Oh well.

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Projection. 

So you don't deny it.

Is this the part where the defund Ukraine folks will agree to actually spend that money on their own citizens. Get the fuck out of here.

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Source?

Certainly not the inspector general who has extensive reports on dollars spent in Ukraine 

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8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

AP interview with the president of Ukraine. 

Not so much. Rather, that's RT's interpretation of his statement that about $100 billion did not flow directly into the Gov's coffers, but instead went to humanitarian aid orgs, and other related entities, including US companies

its funny though, when you google the "loss of 100 million" the only results are RT and other Russian alligned media sources. Then you come here, and its you and  Sack parroting that same line. Curious.

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Since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the U.S. has poured tens of billions of dollars into the country’s attempt to survive. For many American voters and commentators, Ukraine aid headlines may evoke images of planes delivering palettes of cash to Kyiv, but this isn’t how the system works.

In reality, only a small percentage of the overall aid package takes the form of cash transfers to Kyiv; the vast majority goes right back into the U.S. economy through several federal government mechanisms.

One of the main mechanisms through which the U.S. provides security assistance to Ukraine is the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI)—a funding program led by the Department of Defense. Aimed at bolstering Ukraine’s armed forces, USAI provides funds for training and advising of Ukrainian military personnel, as well as for procurement of weapons. Nearly $32 billion has been allocated to USAI in three years of Russia’s all-out war.

The State Department’s Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program is a similar tool, yet its focus is not only on Ukraine but, rather, U.S. foreign policy goals more broadly. FMF helps American allies like Ukraine buy weapons specifically from U.S. manufacturers, supporting U.S. international interests and its military-industrial complex. FMF funding is not transferred to the recipient and is executed by American government agencies. Congress has allocated roughly $6.3 billion to this program for Ukraine security purposes since 2022. 

And then there is the Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA), which allows the president to authorize the provision of weapons or services from Defense Department stockpiles to partners. This mechanism provides almost immediate help to allies in emergencies, with assistance sometimes arriving within days of presidential approval. Between August 2021 and April 2024, the State Department used PDA 44 times, providing Ukraine with military assistance worth $23.8 billion.

The U.S. also sends direct financial assistance to the Ukrainian government through the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). The majority of USAID funds fill up Ukraine’s budget and keep the country’s government running by paying salaries to state employees. A fraction of those funds address humanitarian projects of one sort or another.

The State Department also supports development initiatives in Ukraine through its Economic Support Funds and provides aid to Ukrainian refugees.

Taken together, these tools form the almost continuous flow of security and financial assistance to Ukraine. 

The administration gets money for all these programs mainly through supplemental funding requests to Congress. Since the beginning of Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, Congress has approved five Ukraine supplemental appropriation acts, worth a total worth of  $174.2 billion. 

But that figure can be misleading. Importantly, every supplemental includes many more dollars than end up directly in Ukraine. Things that also fall under the umbrella of “Ukraine aid” include the financing of increased U.S. military presence in Europe, intelligence operations vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia, support of European states that have also been affected by Russia’s war, and every other activity in any way related to Russia’s war in Ukraine.

The majority of weapons and munitions the U.S. government has sent to Ukraine are pulled from America’s own stockpiles using presidential drawdowns, since this program allows for the quickest delivery. The supplementals then provide the Pentagon with funding to replenish those stockpiles, which it does primarily through the military contractors that build weapons for the U.S. military.

For example, the fifth supplemental covers the costs of the latest assistance package by giving money to the Pentagon to replenish its inventories of the air defense interceptors and artillery shells provided to Ukraine in April. The supplemental will also cover similar assistance packages this upcoming year. 

The $62 billion package, however, does nothing to lift some of the key limitations placed on the use and supply of certain American weapons to Ukraine.

 

Imagine thinking the pentagon accounting shipping and handling against the Ukraine funding bills is money disappearing like a fart in the wind.

54 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

ITT people who've never heard of USAID before this week express strong expert opinions on its efficacy and merit.

Soooo we should just never be curious about anything, got it.

18 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Not so much. Rather, that's RT's interpretation of his statement that about $100 billion did not flow directly into the Gov's coffers, but instead went to humanitarian aid orgs, and other related entities, including US companies

its funny though, when you google the "loss of 100 million" the only results are RT and other Russian alligned media sources. Then you come here, and its you and  Sack parroting that same line. Curious.

 

It's almost like sack and ana are propagandist pieces of shit or something.

17 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

It's almost like sack and ana are propagandist pieces of shit or something.

You should be more curious about a lot things. 

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Yeah amazing so many people are distracted by 200+ years of Constitutional order being steamrolled by an unelected billionaire. If GOP doesn’t like it- they’ve got both houses of Congress. 
 

Never mind the costs to privacy, national security and literal human lives. *waves hands* it’s just so unimportant 

But they think this will somehow a) get them a pay raise and b) lower the cost of living.  So fuck all that land of the free rule of law shit.

56 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

AP interview with the president of Ukraine. 

Post the link

12 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You should be more curious about a lot things. 

I am sure you will tell us what and where to get such information.

2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Obvious troll is obvious this morning. I’m out

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What the fuck took you so long?

Just now, Beau Vine said:

What the fuck took you so long?

He does really good work in the shit I cooked thread

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2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Good. Then they should be resilient to a full and transparent auditing of their spending. 

You are a dumb fuck. You are the issue with this whole situation, you specifically. Your uneducated dumbass, specifically. 

It was all fully transparent until it was taken down after it was proven that the in contraceptives that went to the Gaza Province in Mozambique, not Gaza in Israel, and a other province.

You are the dumbest motherfucker on this website.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Zelenskyy has said as much on camera.

No, he didn't you uninformed dumbass. Here's what he actually about the 100 billion that went "missing" said since you can't do any critical thinking or know how to use Google.

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Today, we hear from the U.S. that America has given Ukraine hundreds of billions - specifically, $177 billion, to be precise. As the President of a country at war, I tell you: we have received a little over $75 billion. That means we never received $100 billion of that $177 billion. And that is important," he said

 


$50MM in condoms sent to which Gaza. This is great shit guys. Total clown show stuff. 

56 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I am sure you will tell us what and where to get such information.


Primary sources preferred. Just listen to the shit straight from the whorses mouth. 

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:


$50MM in condoms sent to which Gaza. This is great shit guys. Total clown show stuff. 

Go do the least you can to educate yourself on any of these topics, instead of parroting what you see posted on Facebook.

Hey here is the thing in sub-Saharan Africa. They like to dry fuck. This isn't a secret. Like literally run sand in that pussy before you stick your dick in. I don't get it. But maybe sending millions of dollars for condoms isn't a particularly evidence based public health strategy. Meet people where they are it. We should be promoting wet pussy programming in those regions. It would actually move the needle on AIDS transmission.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dry-sex-is-the-african-sexual-health-issue-no-ones-talking-about/

 

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10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:


Primary sources preferred. Just listen to the shit straight from the whorses mouth. 

Listened to it, but he never said it.   Maybe you have a link where he did?

Hey @safe sex, tell these morons about the benefits of eating the pussy first, and to not put sandy in the pussy.  

I should start an NGO. 

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Dude is apparently having a psychotic break, and he is now added to my ignore list.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Dude is apparently having a psychotic break, and he is now added to my ignore list.

By psychotic break, you mean just unpopular discourse. Otherwise that would make @immamac a coward. 

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

By psychotic break, you mean just unpopular discourse. Otherwise that would make @immamac a coward. 

Eh, this is particularly strong gibberish game:

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Meet people where they are it.

 

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Eh, this is particularly strong gibberish game:

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Sorry, the AI disagrees.

 

"Meet people where they are at" is a phrase that means to understand and respect a person's current situation, feelings, and perspective. It's about acknowledging their experiences and adapting your approach to their needs. 

What it means

Consider their background: Understand where they come from and what might be influencing them. 

Consider their limitations: Work with them according to their physical or mental capabilities. 

Empathy: Consider their perspective and feelings, and listen to them without judgment. 

Respect: Honor their choices and circumstances. 

Tailor your approach: Adapt your communication to their needs.

Where it's used

Social work: A key principle of social work, especially when working with patients. 

Street medicine: Bringing healthcare to people in encampments, parks, shelters, and other places. 

Human connection: A way to connect with people and help them realize they're not alone. 

28 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Hey here is the thing in sub-Saharan Africa. They like to dry fuck. This isn't a secret. Like literally run sand in that pussy before you stick your dick in. I don't get it. But maybe sending millions of dollars for condoms isn't a particularly evidence based public health strategy. Meet people where they are it. We should be promoting wet pussy programming in those regions. It would actually move the needle on AIDS transmission.  

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dry-sex-is-the-african-sexual-health-issue-no-ones-talking-about/

 

This article you link to is over ten years old and includes this in the third paragraph: 

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Looking into the trend, I found that information was thin. Most of the studies I did find were more than a decade old. The impression was that the issue was endemic, but hard figures were few and far between.

 

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

This article you link to is over ten years old and includes this in the third paragraph: 

There is bottomless well of articles that I will "site" for you. Is this really the rabbit hole that you want to go down in defense of ineffective public health measures funded by USAID? 

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/a31785/dry-sex-horrific-practice-africa/

'Dry Sex' - the horrific practice in some parts of Africa that has gone previously undiscovered

It involves reducing the moistness of a woman's vagina with sponges and bleach so that it feels tighter during sex for the man. Completely awful.

Ana is the ESPN reporter rationalizing the Doncic trade from a basketball perspective citing Luka’s weight and Mavs improved defense.

Meanwhile, a close friend of mine cant help doctors out because our census data has been taken off the internet. Not normal.

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18 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Dude is apparently having a psychotic break, and he is now added to my ignore list.

no, he's an internet troll. always has been.

See, current protracted discussion over sex-ed in sub-Saharan Africa after getting called out for spreading Russian misinformation about Ukraine Funding. He moved on immediately after being called out and will not address it going further. 

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

There is bottomless well of articles that I will "site" for you. Is this really the rabbit hole that you want to go down in defense of ineffective public health measures funded by USAID? 

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/a31785/dry-sex-horrific-practice-africa/

'Dry Sex' - the horrific practice in some parts of Africa that has gone previously undiscovered

It involves reducing the moistness of a woman's vagina with sponges and bleach so that it feels tighter during sex for the man. Completely awful.

That's a 10+ year old article that links and pulls it's sources from the initial 10+ year old vice article you posted already. Literally all it's quotes are pulled from the vice article.

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I used to think you were a troll, but it's clear you are just an actual moron.

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