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testing tesla auto pilot vs lidar in fog, rain and into a wall - worth a watch

 

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2 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

A little more info on the Waymo accidents:  https://www.damfirm.com/waymo-accident-statistics.html

Waymo has indeed been in about 700 accidents from 2021-24, but 632 of the 700 accidents involved no injuries.  Waymo was not at fault in many of these accidents.

Only three involved serious injuries and there has been one fatality:

* One in SF involved a Waymo stopped at light.  Another car crossed a double yellow light and crashed into a SUV, which hit the stopped Waymo
* One in LA involved a Waymo following a box truck.  The Waymo had a driver.  The Waymo was hit from behind by another passenger car.  That car may have been changing lanes.
* One in SF involved a Waymo stopped at a light, that proceeded into the intersection on green.  A cross-traffic car ran the red light and crashed into the Waymo and another car.  The red light car hit a total of two cars plus pedestrians.

The fatality involved a Tesla in SF traveling at a reported 98 MPH that hit a Waymo, plus other vehicles.  Everyone but the Tesla was stopped at an intersection.  The Waymo was unoccupied at the time. The person killed was in a Lexus that was hit by the Tesla.  The Tesla had a human driver at the time.

Eventually self-driving cars are going to be much, much safer than humans, either Tesla or Waymo or whatever.  We may already be there. Crashes and injuries and fatalities are going to go way, way down.  DWI is going to go hopefully to zero.  It can't get here fast enough, IMHO.

Waymo’s not going to fuck you, dude.  
 

J/K… good info.  Thanks for sharing.  

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

 

 

how many cybertrucks have been bought by people intentionally trying to break them?

1 minute ago, elfenix said:

how many cybertrucks have been bought by people intentionally trying to break them?

A lot.

1 minute ago, elfenix said:

how many cybertrucks have been bought by people intentionally trying to break them?

He tried to break the dodge ram too. How many car manufacturers make bullshit claims and then piss their pants when they get called on it is probably a better question.

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

A lot.

Highest and best use!

hmmm

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AMCI is the research firm involved

 

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and that's the good news, there's a BUT,

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Should you buy 20 dozen eggs this month, or a Tesla? Can't wait to see if their price slashing is effective.

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Should you buy 20 dozen eggs this month, or a Tesla? Can't wait to see if their price slashing is effective.

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In other words, “we have inventory piling up so fast that we’re ready to lose money on them rather than having them sit on the lot”.

Anyone know how much of the production capacity at the Austin factory was predicated on Incel Camino sales projections? 

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amazing that musk hasn't found one dollar of fraud in any of his govt contracts 

6 hours ago, Chopper said:

 

testing tesla auto pilot vs lidar in fog, rain and into a wall - worth a watch

 

 

 

I've been told on good authority that cameras only was all that was needed,

3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Unsigned because muSSk is a coward.

Nah, hell I bet he’s went into space on one of his rockets, right?

 

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Cringe posting in the middle of the night. 

He’s about to go through his Ayn Rand phase.  Followed by his George Orwell phase. 

Cringe posting in the middle of the night. 
 
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I don’t disagree with that. Many of us don’t.
What idiots like Elon don’t realize is that many such people are not on his side.
A toast to Luigi.
5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I don’t disagree with that. Many of us don’t

Well, you should.  It's a false premise.  A person who is incapable of violence of any sort is by definition "peaceful".  This would include some of those who are incapable of "great violence".

It's also just pandering.

16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


I don’t disagree with that. Many of us don’t.
What idiots like Elon don’t realize is that many such people are not on his side.
A toast to Luigi.

Nah he’s wrong. His cat vs human is dumb because if you get that cat in a bad spot it will do what it can to survive and you better believe that is great violence.

his real mistake is that he thinks weakness means you are hopeless and your not. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug and can save your ass when you need it to. 

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He’s just a fucking cunt. No way around it.

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You can't say you are not a liar unless you know how to lie.

I cannot tell you how fast I would get away from someone who talks like that. "You have to be super violent to be peaceful. Also empathy is terrible." 

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36 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

He’s just a fucking cunt. No way around it.

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Well, you should.  It's a false premise.  A person who is incapable of violence of any sort is by definition "peaceful".  This would include some of those who are incapable of "great violence".
It's also just pandering.

Meh. I think that empathy, kindness, and being protective are a good package deal. The problem is when you use your capacity for violent protectiveness as an identity and a badge of legitimacy. Which is what these fake alpha bro types (who Elon fancied himself one of, he’s pathetic) fancy themselves as.
5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Meh. I think that empathy, kindness, and being protective are a good package deal. 

Yeah, so?  That doesn't mean one must possess the "protective" characteristic (much less the capability of "great violence") to be peaceful.

It was a dumb statement, it is fundamentally wrong, and Elon is a twat who must likely lacks the very trait he imagines himself possessing.

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Pretty good bit of real world proof on LIDAR vs cameras from YouTuber Mark Rober

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Mark Rober about to be designated a domestic terrorist 

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7 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

Mark Rober about to be designated a domestic terrorist 

The dude is really into science and a former NASA engineer so a good chance he was already thought of in that capacity. 

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He’s about to go through his Ayn Rand phase. 

Remember when this guy was the one blabbering about Ayn Rand? 
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1 hour ago, ultimaton said:

Mark Rober about to be designated a domestic terrorist 

 

58 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

The dude is really into science and a former NASA engineer so a good chance he was already thought of in that capacity. 

Lol, a good friend is a producer for the channel. He’s equally bemused and a bit down over the hate on Twitter for the video.

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

Remember when this guy was the one blabbering about Ayn Rand? 
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Surely he's got a podcast of some kind

42 minutes ago, YChang said:

 

Lol, a good friend is a producer for the channel. He’s equally bemused and a bit down over the hate on Twitter for the video.

How did he not see the hate coming? Elon turned Twitter into a hate machine to be deployed at anyone who says something he doesn’t like. 

7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

How did he not see the hate coming? Elon turned Twitter into a hate machine to be deployed at anyone who says something he doesn’t like. 

I’m sure he likely expected it and he was still disappointed by it. 

10 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, you should.  It's a false premise.  A person who is incapable of violence of any sort is by definition "peaceful".  This would include some of those who are incapable of "great violence".

It's also just pandering.

Moreover, there are plenty of peaceful folks that were not "harmless."  Ghandi, Jesus Christ (although I suppose Pops is capable of great violence), MLK, Bonhoeffer.

He acts as though he's spouting undiscovered main truths, when it's just inaccurate memeshit only undiscovered because his uncritical followers are morons.

1 hour ago, YChang said:

 

Lol, a good friend is a producer for the channel. He’s equally bemused and a bit down over the hate on Twitter for the video.

I’m sure a lot of the hate is that the video is showing Autopilot but not Full Self Driving. The point is that this camera-only technology is bullshit and dangerous. LiDAR is the future and the Waymo + Uber partnership is adding to Elon’s downward spiral. 

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