March 24, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, kmac30 said: Coming down to a final bids for pool and talking about cleaners. One guy telling me parts are too hard to find for robots, to use Polaris 280 Black. Robot options - he said he has been using Tiger Shark for clients looking for robots because Aqua Vac parts are too hard to find. Other guy said he’s using Aqua Vac. He also went on to tell me robots aren’t meant to be in the pool all the time and Polaris is easier to just pop it off and pull it out. Thoughts? Growing up we had a Polaris and my in-laws currently have one. Cord loves to get in the way, but it really doesn’t matter to me. Should it? I want the most efficient. Robots are way to go IMO, much better job cleaning and ease of use. I had an AquaVac 650 and in broke down twice in 2 years - 1st bad drive motor, 2nd bad board. Both times only warranty service repair was available and at least a month wait (time I was also without a robot... during leaf drop season... yeah) Parts were also really hard to find, not only the broken parts, but even the wheel treads were really hard to track down, only found from one vendor at time I needed them. Cleaning the unit was very nice and super quick/easy and only good thing about it that I miss. Having seen the reviews of Hayward robots and then owning one I wanted to steer clear of them and went with what most seemed to really prefer which was a Dolphin. I replaced with Dolphin Premier and much happier and parts seem readily available should I need them (I looked before purchasing just to be sure) Edited March 24, 20223 yr by MonkeyDoughnut
March 24, 20223 yr Coming down to a final bids for pool and talking about cleaners. One guy telling me parts are too hard to find for robots, to use Polaris 280 Black. Robot options - he said he has been using Tiger Shark for clients looking for robots because Aqua Vac parts are too hard to find. Other guy said he’s using Aqua Vac.He also went on to tell me robots aren’t meant to be in the pool all the time and Polaris is easier to just pop it off and pull it out. Thoughts? Growing up we had a Polaris and my in-laws currently have one. Cord loves to get in the way, but it really doesn’t matter to me. Should it? I want the most efficient. Yep robots - parts hard to find , don’t last as long. But use a lot less power and clean better. Have to take them out of the pool when done.Pressure cleaners, easy to fix easy to get parts , can just leave in the pool
March 25, 20223 yr Is there a thread or place TFP I can post my specs to make sure they’re what I need? Or can I post them here? I see people talking about pump sizes and heater sizes, etc. I want to make sure I’m not missing anything.
March 25, 20223 yr Author 8 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said: Robots are way to go IMO, much better job cleaning and ease of use. I had an AquaVac 650 and in broke down twice in 2 years - 1st bad drive motor, 2nd bad board. Both times only warranty service repair was available and at least a month wait (time I was also without a robot... during leaf drop season... yeah) Parts were also really hard to find, not only the broken parts, but even the wheel treads were really hard to track down, only found from one vendor at time I needed them. Cleaning the unit was very nice and super quick/easy and only good thing about it that I miss. Having seen the reviews of Hayward robots and then owning one I wanted to steer clear of them and went with what most seemed to really prefer which was a Dolphin. I replaced with Dolphin Premier and much happier and parts seem readily available should I need them (I looked before purchasing just to be sure) 7 hours ago, kmac30 said: Good info. Both guys are using Hayward products. Should I steer clear? The sharkvac and tigershark from Hayward are fine. Aquavac series not so much.. of course aquavac is what's in my pool and works perfectly.
March 25, 20223 yr Author 35 minutes ago, kmac30 said: Is there a thread or place TFP I can post my specs to make sure they’re what I need? Or can I post them here? I see people talking about pump sizes and heater sizes, etc. I want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Post here. Or feel free to pm
March 25, 20223 yr New Construction EstimatePool Type GeometricPool Gallons 17800 Pool Perimeter 114 Pool Depth Shallow: 3.5 Pool Depth Deep: 6Pool Average Depth: 4.75 17 Pool Internal Area: 1165.5Pool Length: 38Pool Width: 17New Decking:1400 Overlay Decking: 0Spa Spillover 8 Spa Perimeter 30 Spa Area 58 Spa Length 7' Spa Width 7' Raised Wall: 125Gunite: Lifetime Transferable WarrantyPlaster:10 Year Warranty on Pebble Sheen FinishesEquipment: 3 Year Equipment Warranty on all Hayward EquipmentWorkmanship: 2 Year Warranty from the Date of Pool Start Up from XXXXX Custom PoolsMaintenance Equipment/Pool School 16' Telescopic Pool Wall BrushLeaf NetWater Test KitIncluded Included Included IncludedXXXXX Custom Pools with provide Pool School to educate you on all the aspects of your new pool. Here we will show you how the pool operates, how to clean your pool, how to test the water chemistry and any other pertinent information of your new pool.* Valves/Check Valves/ Autofill* Drains, Skimmers, Nitches,Automation/Remote:1 Omni 4 / App ControlFilters1 C5030 (Cartridge Filter)Sanitation System / Cleaner1 CMP Power Clean Ultra (Chlorine) 1 Ozone (Clear O3 +Ultra UV2) 1 Hayward AquaVac 650Heater / Chiller1 H-Series 400,000 BTU Pumps1 Tristar 950 Vs Epump 1 Tristar 900 Vs Epump Tristar Equipment2 Hayward UCL LED Pool Lights1 Spa LED Hayward UCL2 Nitchless LED Colored2 Low Voltage TransformersWater Features2 BubblersSheer Descents3 18" Equiment Cont. Excavation Equipment: BobcatPrice includes take down and removal of existing fence for equipment access.All dirt to be hauled off construction site unless specifically noted in proposal.XXXXX is not responsible for any damages to underground utilities,(including but not limited to) natural gas, electrical, sewer, cable, internet and phone.*Eletrical Re Routes And Gas Line Reroutes Are Not Included In This Price(Re-routes will be charged at $10.00 Linear Ft.)Before construction begins, XXXXX will call and have all utilities properly marked. In the event any utilities need to be re-routed, additional charges will be added to the final contract ammount.RebarWalls and Floors #3 3/8 Rebar in walls and Floors tied on 8" Centers. 12" Box beam #4 Continuous RebarGuniteOwner needs to water gunite 2-3 times per day for 5 days after gunite is installed.Gunite (Beam) 12" Box StyleGunite (Walls/Floors) Minimum 6" ThickGunite (Corners) Minimum 8" ThickGunite (Steps & Benches) Minimum 6" ThickPlumbingPool Plumbing 2.5" Suction LinesValves Jandy 2" Never Lube ValvesFill Line 3/4" Pool Automatic Fill Line with PVB Backflow Device Overflow Drain 2" tied into drainage systemAll Scheduled 40 PVCPipes Skimmers: 2 Skimmers with baskets and tan topsMain Drains: Dual Suction Channel Drains. (VGB Compliant)Pool Returns 2" Pool Return lines, 6 MinimumSpa Jets 8 Hydro Air JetsElectrical All electrical is installed by a state licesned electrician. 360 Degree Earth Ground at Steal of Pool Beam.Sub panel included if required. Waterline Tile:* Glass Tile LineCoping:* Travertine Straight EdgeBackside of Spa Flagstone* Split Faced TravertineRaised Wall Flagstone* Split Face 2"x4"* Face Backside of Raised wall.Note: All raised walls/beams, are not finished on the backside with tile or quoted material, unless specifically noted in the proposal. See above line item for pricing.PlasterPebble Tec / Pebble Sheen is a Lifetime product. This means you will probably never have to replaster your pool, unlike a regular white plaster. Pebble Tec / Pebble Sheen is backed with a 10 Year plaster warranty, provided by Modern Method Gunite.Pebble Tec* Pebble Sheen Level 1 Aqua Blue, Blue Granite, Blue Surf, Bordeaux, Caribbean Blue, Desert Gold, French Grey, Irish Mist, Tahoe Blue, White Diamons* Abalone Shell Columns FlagstoneTile 6"x6"Split Face 2"x4" Split Face 4"x12" Natural Stone BrickStacked Stone Glass Tile0 Ton Moss Rock / Waterfalls* Travertine Pavers Level I Travertine Pavers Level II* Deck Drains* StepsTravertine Level I 1400 Sq Ft.Total Decking 1400 Sq Ft.Decking Drains 100 Linear ft of 4" Black flex pipe ran to side drainage Steps. 75 Linear Ft of StepsExpansion Joints: Hand Cut to Match and Flow with Decking #3 Rebar Tied on 18" CentersDecking Dowels: Every 3-4 Ft Tied into Pool BeamDeck Drains: 4" PVC Drain tied into Side DrainsPayment Schedule:$1,500.00 Deposit Due at Contract Signing. (This will be taken out of the 30% Dig amount) 30% Due on or Before Excavation40% Due on or before day of Gunite20% Due on or Before Decking Begins10% Due on or before day of Plaster
March 25, 20223 yr I’d add at least a 3rd light or even 4th for the pool. Mine is quite a bit smaller than yours and with 2 of those leds it just barely covers everything . The smaller lights now a days don’t go as far as the giant incandescent ones.One thing I wish I’d have done is use the sheer descents with lights in them . Didn’t know they had them at the time but think it would look cool .
March 25, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, kmac30 said: New Construction Estimate Pool Type Geometric Pool Gallons 17800 Pool Perimeter 114 Pool Depth Shallow: 3.5 Pool Depth Deep: 6 Pool Average Depth: 4.75 17 Pool Internal Area: 1165.5 Pool Length: 38 Pool Width: 17 We have similar dimensions. Mine is 36X17. Couple of thoughts. 1) Go 4-6 feet deep. 3.5 is too shallow. 2) Go saltwater 4) Re: cleaner I can’t speak to the Aquavac but we lover our Maytronics Dolphin, which is highly recommended from TFP. 3) Add more lights. I have the smaller LED color changing lights. We did 1 on the tanning ledge/first step, 3 in the pool directly across from the sheer descents and 1 in the spa. Picture for reference.
March 25, 20223 yr To TexEx15 #2, if you don't go saltwater from the get go, definitely have them pipe in a dummy "Hayward GLX-CELL-PIPE Turbo Cell". Costs $40 from Amazon. With your Omnilogic panel all that would be required to then convert to salt would be buying a salt cell and replacing replacing the GLX-CELL-PIPE adding salt to pool and programming. All very DIY after the fact and taking a maker of minutes (outside of waiting for salt to dissolve in pool overnight). I'm about to do this to convert my pool this weekend, but I'll need to cut and re-route some PVC to get the cell added in.
March 30, 20223 yr I should have water in mine finally by Monday. Who's got good patio furniture recs? Just basic stuff. Chaise lounges mainly. I think I'm set on two adirondacks on the shaded side near the house, I'm all set on a patio table and the chairs around it. The pergola gets built later and will have more seating and maybe a sofa, but really just need some chaise lounges for now. These will be uncovered, exposed in direct sunlight, and will be rained on. I'm more concerned with simplicity and lack of maintenance. Not looking for anything that will rust or needs regular cleaning, sealing, staining, scrubbing, etc... Something comfortable I can hose off, brush off and be done with it. The stuff made from resin or polywood seems more like what I'm looking for than wood, cheap plastic, or metal. Cushions seem like more hassle than I want to deal with but I'd be ok with it if they were 100% waterproof and aligned with my level of laziness. Edited March 30, 20223 yr by Your Mom
March 30, 20223 yr Cast aluminum won’t rust and will last forever . Just don’t buy cheap stuff it will fall apart.
March 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Your Mom said: I should have water in mine finally by Monday. Who's got good patio furniture recs? Just basic stuff. Chaise lounges mainly. I think I'm set on two adirondacks on the shaded side near the house, I'm all set on a patio table and the chairs around it. The pergola gets built later and will have more seating and maybe a sofa, but really just need some chaise lounges for now. These will be uncovered, exposed in direct sunlight, and will be rained on. I'm more concerned with simplicity and lack of maintenance. Not looking for anything that will rust or needs regular cleaning, sealing, staining, scrubbing, etc... Something comfortable I can hose off, brush off and be done with it. The stuff made from resin or polywood seems more like what I'm looking for than wood, cheap plastic, or metal. Cushions seem like more hassle than I want to deal with but I'd be ok with it if they were 100% waterproof and aligned with my level of laziness. polywood or Lifetime products made from recycled plastic that looks like wood are two of the lines I really like.
March 30, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Your Mom said: I should have water in mine finally by Monday. Who's got good patio furniture recs? Just basic stuff. Chaise lounges mainly. I think I'm set on two adirondacks on the shaded side near the house, I'm all set on a patio table and the chairs around it. The pergola gets built later and will have more seating and maybe a sofa, but really just need some chaise lounges for now. These will be uncovered, exposed in direct sunlight, and will be rained on. I'm more concerned with simplicity and lack of maintenance. Not looking for anything that will rust or needs regular cleaning, sealing, staining, scrubbing, etc... Something comfortable I can hose off, brush off and be done with it. The stuff made from resin or polywood seems more like what I'm looking for than wood, cheap plastic, or metal. Cushions seem like more hassle than I want to deal with but I'd be ok with it if they were 100% waterproof and aligned with my level of laziness. Bought these last year and love them so far. Sold as a pair. https://www.wayfair.com/outdoor/pdp/mistana-76-long-reclining-single-chaise-mtna4426.html?piid=25754410
March 31, 20223 yr Slightly off-topic.....is there a reason why pool cleaner/treatment services still use old-school paper invoices, don't allow you to track treatments/chemicals digitally, and are always weeks behind on reporting/billing/etc? There's gotta be a smarter way.
March 31, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Lobo said: Slightly off-topic.....is there a reason why pool cleaner/treatment services still use old-school paper invoices, don't allow you to track treatments/chemicals digitally, and are always weeks behind on reporting/billing/etc? There's gotta be a smarter way. We had one that did digital reporting but the actual service really sucked. During new pool startup they showed up and just brushed but did not put any maintenance chlorine, stabilizer, or calcium in my pool. All they did was shock and acid. Their digital records bore this out when I fired them.
March 31, 20223 yr Anyone have a link for some inexpensive UL2017 certified window alarms? I need 6 for final inspection.
April 1, 20223 yr Author 5 hours ago, Your Mom said: Anyone have a link for some inexpensive UL2017 certified window alarms? I need 6 for final inspection. Yard guard makes some but check with municipality if you can put window locks in instead. Would need to be version that would require a tool to uninstall. But worth a call.
April 1, 20223 yr We have similar dimensions. Mine is 36X17. Couple of thoughts. 1) Go 4-6 feet deep. 3.5 is too shallow. 2) Go saltwater 4) Re: cleaner I can’t speak to the Aquavac but we lover our Maytronics Dolphin, which is highly recommended from TFP. 3) Add more lights. I have the smaller LED color changing lights. We did 1 on the tanning ledge/first step, 3 in the pool directly across from the sheer descents and 1 in the spa. Picture for reference. Agree with pretty much all of this. Finally got tired of manually vacuuming and got the dolphin sigma. Why did I wait so long to get one of those!!!
April 1, 20223 yr Is taking out and putting robot in the pool every few days not a pain in the ass? As opposed to dealing with the pump, hose, and skimmer every time I’m cleaning it? Much faster and easier to drop in the robot and so far I think The pool has been cleaner that it’s ever been (pool is screened in so I have the ultra-fine filters and there is so much dirt being pulled out that I’ve never noticed). I justified not getting one for years because of the expense, liked doing it manually, etc. I’ll admit, it is a lot of money and a lot of people do just fine without them and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
April 1, 20223 yr Hey does anyone here get good deals on Pentair Intelliflo pumps here in Austin? I need one ASAP. Mine died in the storm last week.
April 2, 20223 yr We’ve been given a shopping list. Time to go check out show rooms to see what sundek, waterline tile, and quartzscape we are going with. Fun.
April 2, 20223 yr Author 3 hours ago, GottaB said: I have paint. Next week I should have a hole. Baby steps. Don't see utility flags. Have they called 811? Are they using a secondary locate svc as well?
April 2, 20223 yr Author 7 hours ago, Bevo said: Hey does anyone here get good deals on Pentair Intelliflo pumps here in Austin? I need one ASAP. Mine died in the storm last week. I don't remember a whole lot of pentair part numbers but they look to be in very limited supply. Checked the 011056 and 011060 and 022056 from largest supplier and they're pretty much out in the state. Depending on what you're replacing you may have to find alternate.
April 2, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, GottaB said: I have paint. Next week I should have a hole. Baby steps. I hope you're getting a new fence, too.
April 2, 20223 yr Anyone have a link for some inexpensive UL2017 certified window alarms? I need 6 for final inspection. You should put bars on the windows.
April 2, 20223 yr All this Pollen has my pool looking jacked, but my levels are ok. What are y’all using to help get the clarity back in the water ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
April 2, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Horns99 said: All this Pollen has my pool looking jacked, but my levels are ok. What are y’all using to help get the clarity back in the water ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I just clean my cartridge filters a couple extra times a year, timing for pollen season to let the filters do the work.
April 3, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Horns99 said: All this Pollen has my pool looking jacked, but my levels are ok. What are y’all using to help get the clarity back in the water ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Run the pump longer. Just need to filter all the crap out. Can run 24/7 on a low setting. Higher pump speeds will get it out quicker.
April 3, 20223 yr On 4/1/2022 at 6:31 AM, kmac30 said: Is taking out and putting robot in the pool every few days not a pain in the ass? The best solution is to not surround your pool with giant trees that drop leaves and shit in your pool all year.
April 3, 20223 yr I setup a Nest camera for the pool building process, and made a time-lapse video of the dig day. This was back on March 9th, so we are 24 days into the build and moving right along with the project at breakneck speed! We are scheduled for drains on Monday, leveling the ground on Tuesday, and concrete by end of the week - depending on the weather! It's crazy how fast we are going, while our neighbor is using another builder who has only dug the hole and did rebar about 10 days ago. They are still waiting on the Gunite, but their builder said they use Shot-crete for the structure, so maybe that has something to do with it. Anyways, at this rate, we should be ready to swim in early May! Dig Timelapse: https://video.nest.com/clip/3738e7e2e9514b5288e5feb4e607c99f.mp4 The milestones for doing a pool build with a kitchen are: Dig the hole and Rebar Gunite Plumbing/Electrical/Pool Equipment Tile/Coping/Stone work Patio Frame/Roof/Electricalc Drainage for rain/overflow/gutter tie-ins <-- I'm here Concrete for Patio slab/pavers/walkway Kitchen/TV Wall/Firepit/Columns Spraydeck for concrete Plaster for pool Loose ends/issues Current look of the project:
April 3, 20223 yr I laugh my ass off over here cause 6" down in my back yard would be solid limestone.
April 3, 20223 yr On 4/2/2022 at 10:46 AM, Paco said: On 3/31/2022 at 2:20 PM, Your Mom said: Anyone have a link for some inexpensive UL2017 certified window alarms? I need 6 for final inspection. You should put bars on the windows. I would but my welder moved to California.
April 3, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, Anastasis said: I laugh my ass off over here cause 6" down in my back yard would be solid limestone. They got about 12-18” before the solid limestone in my yard. Then it’s was 4 days of busting rock to get down 6’. But hey, the hoses are in the pool as we speak. Finally filling this bitch up today!
April 9, 20223 yr Probably one of my last photos with a pool. Selling the casa and moving but man has owning a pool been great. My vizsla and I swim every day between April and October and I am going to miss it. Pools are so fucking worth it, even if it’s just for you to swim and get out of the rest. It’s also like having your own little chemistry set.
April 16, 20223 yr I’m in the repair process for an above ground concrete pool. It’s suspended on concrete pillars. From underneath it looks sort of like a commercial parking lot suspension system. All that l long way to tell you how I can see the bottom side of the pool and specifically the bottom of the in floor pool cleaning heads. About half of the heads have very slow drip drip drips. Maybe a gallon total per day. Should I expect some minor leakage from these or should I demand 100% waterproof from the builder.
April 17, 20223 yr Getting into the home stretch and should have the house and pool finished by the end of May. Need to start looking at pool/patio furniture. I know I probably should have started looking months ago. Any recommendations or things to stay away from?
April 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, milkman said: Getting into the home stretch and should have the house and pool finished by the end of May. Need to start looking at pool/patio furniture. I know I probably should have started looking months ago. Any recommendations or things to stay away from? Everything seems ridiculous. We tried to get a Costco set but my wife was indecisive and it was gone. Ended up with a less expensive set from Wayfair and for the price I can replace it in 5 years and be ahead
April 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, milkman said: Getting into the home stretch and should have the house and pool finished by the end of May. Need to start looking at pool/patio furniture. I know I probably should have started looking months ago. Any recommendations or things to stay away from? We ordered ours back over the winter. Wife spent a small fortune on the furniture, we’ll see how well it holds up versus the cheaper stuff we normally have used. Hopefully it will be here in the next week or so as we’re finally getting towards the finish line on this project. We’ve been waiting on the right color replacement travertine to come in and then we should be done.
April 18, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, Fudbelty said: Avoid glass at all costs. That looks like a whole lot of not much fun.
April 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Fudbelty said: Avoid glass at all costs. So who's ass did you kick in Monopoly? Edited April 18, 20223 yr by Dutchrudder
April 18, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, milkman said: Getting into the home stretch and should have the house and pool finished by the end of May. Need to start looking at pool/patio furniture. I know I probably should have started looking months ago. Any recommendations or things to stay away from? After trying maybe sets at different price levels I just couldn't see the furniture at like Home Depot/Lowes lasting in my yard with kids, dogs, weather, etc. so bit the bullet at went looking for next level up in price (large step). Been very happy with it and definitely feels like their is a chance it will last a long while. We and couple friends/neighbors all got our sets at Rooms to go and all have been happy so far. The "Sunbrella" fabric has been pretty forgiving, definitely worth it IMO.
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