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12 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Looking at the roster next year it seems pretty empty. Pope and Weaver are the only guys getting minutes coming back (if they don't portal).

Well the new coach should be able to bring some guys.  But first years are usually pretty rough

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1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

80%?

Come on man. I'd say 1-4 is most likely, 2-3 2nd most likely, 3-2 third most likely, and all the other outcomes very unlikely.

The team has too much talent to go 0-5 in that stretch.

Hope you are right

Well the new coach should be able to bring some guys.  But first years are usually pretty rough

They ain’t firing him if he makes the tourney.

The opening game against Aggy looks to be a very big game in that stretch. They are an inconsistent bunch and though they will be favored at home, it's a winnable game if Texas doesn't turn the ball over too much and has a decent shooting game.

A&M are a relentless offensive rebounding team. That’s not one of Texas’ strengths. And I don’t see them having a let down at home against their most important rival. 

But Kent should help with the boards and I’ve been blissfully wrong before. 

57 minutes ago, dogbreath said:

And I don’t see them having a let down at home against their most important rival. 

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Why do we have like 15 coaches now? Last game, there were 9 guys in white shirts and 6 in orange shirts on or behind the bench.

Penders usually ran with 2 guys, Barnes with 3. Why the huge inflation these days?

4 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Why do we have like 15 coaches now? Last game, there were 9 guys in white shirts and 6 in orange shirts on or behind the bench.

Penders usually ran with 2 guys, Barnes with 3. Why the huge inflation these days?

It's the new thing. Every team has 47 coaches now

Coaches, support staff, training staff. 

There’s already the extra assistant coach than those coaches had at Texas, plus you have all the new roles in college ball - GMs, analytics, etc 

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4 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Why do we have like 15 coaches now? Last game, there were 9 guys in white shirts and 6 in orange shirts on or behind the bench.

Penders usually ran with 2 guys, Barnes with 3. Why the huge inflation these days?

 

because the rules, regulations, and policies surrounding assistant coaches and personnel staff have all changed and progressed since the days of Barnes and Penders. 

What Texas has on the sidelines is no different than other major programs. 

IDK if Derka removed himself or if the mods hit him with the ban hammer, but are we really going to go through the basketball season without his insight and input?

Seems a real shame.

He was banned and started posting shit under a different name.  I'm not sure if that one got banned too.

I do appreciate the KenPom posts, and would prefer him back.

8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

He was banned and started posting shit under a different name.  I'm not sure if that one got banned too.

I do appreciate the KenPom posts, and would prefer him back.

Anyone know what he was banned for?

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2 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Anyone know what he was banned for?

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Just for fun, I simulated 10M seasons using the KenPom game odds. Here are the results:

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Given the strength of the conference, I think the seeding would work out as follows (with the percentages being the odds of that seed or better):

  • 7-11 - 10 seed, 50/50 make the tourney    (78% chance)
  • 8-10 - 8-9 seed, 90% make the tourney  (61% chance)
  • 9-9 - 6-7 seed  (42% chance)
  • 10-8 - 5-6 seed (24% chance)
  • 11-7 - 5 seed (11% chance)
  • 12-6 - 4 seed (4% chance)
  • 13-5 - 3 seed (1.3% chance)
  • 14-4 - 2 seed (1 in 300+)
  • 15-3 - 1 seed (1 in 2,000+)
  • 16-2 or better - #1 overall seed - (1 in 13,000+)

I said after the early OSU loss that if we didn't improve we'd be doing well to win 19 games and get a 10 seed. Still tracking roughly that way. I think the chances of finishing with 18 wins and missing the tourney are just as good, especially if Johnson misses any more time. We'll probably know a lot more about March once these next five games have been played.

Still don’t think this team has a clue on their best rotations and personnel. Figuring out that shit the hard way in conference play can get you a NIT invite. 

Haven’t watched a ton of this bball team, especially recently.
Statistically seem to be pretty damn good offensively [level of competition aside]:
84.5 pts/gm - 29th nationally
51.7% FG% - T1st nationally
41.7% 3FG% - 3rd nationally

What to look for early in this one tonight to gauge if we’re doing what we need to do to get a Dub vs Aggie?

8 minutes ago, Horns RD Standard said:

Haven’t watched a ton of this bball team, especially recently.
Statistically seem to be pretty damn good offensively [level of competition aside]:
84.5 pts/gm - 29th nationally
51.7% FG% - T1st nationally
41.7% 3FG% - 3rd nationally

What to look for early in this one tonight to gauge if we’re doing what we need to do to get a Dub vs Aggie?

Can't get dominated on the boards. The usual of shooting and turnovers.

Seems two slow schools with slow teams are playing slow on the slow sports network and I can't haz Texas tipoff yet. 

6 hours ago, Gut Wagon said:

I said after the early OSU loss that if we didn't improve we'd be doing well to win 19 games and get a 10 seed. Still tracking roughly that way. I think the chances of finishing with 18 wins and missing the tourney are just as good, especially if Johnson misses any more time. We'll probably know a lot more about March once these next five games have been played.

I would've liked to have seen Codie get more playing time in the nonconference. He seems to have a silky midrange game for a freshmen big. 

Just now, LTtxfan said:

RT is in over his head... 😬

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Going to get real ugly fast.

This season could quickly become be a total disaster. We have a poorly constructed roster that is shaping up to get bent over in conference play and a demonstrable lack of interest in the program (which I personally put much of the blame on Terry for the weak ass non conference schedule he put together).

Having our two toughest opponents at home in TN and Auburn while the students haven’t come back from break or are otherwise not back from the Cotton Bowl is going to limit any sort of home court advantage, if you would even call it that. I have been going to games for 25 years and don’t recall an atmosphere as lame as we consistently have.

I hate hero ball, but it seems like Tre getting hot and pouring it on is the only way we are going to be able to win some games.

27 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

RT is in over his head... 😬

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My prediction will be 5 wins. I could see as many as 7 and as few as 3. 

4 minutes ago, KingBobo81 said:

This season could quickly become be a total disaster. We have a poorly constructed roster that is shaping up to get bent over in conference play and a demonstrable lack of interest in the program (which I personally put much of the blame on Terry for the weak ass non conference schedule he put together).

Having our two toughest opponents at home in TN and Auburn while the students haven’t come back from break or are otherwise not back from the Cotton Bowl is going to limit any sort of home court advantage, if you would even call it that. I have been going to games for 25 years and don’t recall an atmosphere as lame as we consistently have.

I hate hero ball, but it seems like Tre getting hot and pouring it on is the only way we are going to be able to win some games.

What about defense, there are lots of teams out there better than Aggy off the dribble drive and Aggy did it all night long. Then there is getting killed on the boards and committing a hundred fouls every game.

1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

What coaches are available to replace Terry at the end of the year?

Home run hires?

I took my family to dinner for one of my kid’s birthdays and was upset that I was going to miss the game. Sounds like I was better off with the way it turned out. 

This really sucks. Texas should be better than they are at basketball by a long sight. 

12 hours ago, KingBobo81 said:

This season could quickly become be a total disaster. We have a poorly constructed roster that is shaping up to get bent over in conference play and a demonstrable lack of interest in the program (which I personally put much of the blame on Terry for the weak ass non conference schedule he put together).

Having our two toughest opponents at home in TN and Auburn while the students haven’t come back from break or are otherwise not back from the Cotton Bowl is going to limit any sort of home court advantage, if you would even call it that. I have been going to games for 25 years and don’t recall an atmosphere as lame as we consistently have.

I hate hero ball, but it seems like Tre getting hot and pouring it on is the only way we are going to be able to win some games.

Lay back and enjoy it if we suck this year. That will get us a new staff. This staff is never going to win anything. I have no idea who the right hire will be going forward, but there are enough people that care about the program and enough advantages that a competent coach will have us just fine, and a good staff should be able to compete for punchers chance to win it all. This too shall pass. 

Lay back and enjoy it if we suck this year. That will get us a new staff. This staff is never going to win anything. I have no idea who the right hire will be going forward, but there are enough people that care about the program and enough advantages that a competent coach will have us just fine, and a good staff should be able to compete for punchers chance to win it all. This too shall pass. 

I am an admitted Terry apologist, so it is hard to enjoy watching the ship go down. I really want him to succeed and appreciate the last couple seasons, but this one is looking like a nightmare.
Just now, KingBobo81 said:


I am an admitted Terry apologist, so it is hard to enjoy watching the ship go down. I really want him to succeed and appreciate the last couple seasons, but this one is looking like a nightmare.

I don’t understand being a Terry apologist. He’s Peter Principled as a big time program head coach. He’s just fine as a #1 assistant, recruiting, relate to the players type. 

I don’t understand being a Terry apologist. He’s Peter Principled as a big time program head coach. He’s just fine as a #1 assistant, recruiting, relate to the players type. 

Pretty simple for me and this should probably go into the RT thread (I won’t post about it anymore)- we had a defcon level 1 situation when he took over, and we still had a legit chance at a national title appearance if not for bad injury luck. I thought he deserved a shot after that. I think it is perfectly reasonable to have given him support strictly for that.
10 minutes ago, KingBobo81 said:


Pretty simple for me and this should probably go into the RT thread (I won’t post about it anymore)- we had a defcon level 1 situation when he took over, and we still had a legit chance at a national title appearance if not for bad injury luck. I thought he deserved a shot after that. I think it is perfectly reasonable to have given him support strictly for that.

I expected nothing good to come from hiring him full time. I had zero problem with giving him 2 years to see if he could make do and was better than I thought- because of what you said. It’s time. That doesn’t get to consign us to mediocrity because he held together a talented and experienced team. That’s what the paycheck is for, right?  But, perfectly reasonable take.  
 

Still bummed that we had our guy for a generation and it turned out the way it did. 

6 hours ago, KingBobo81 said:


I am an admitted Terry apologist, so it is hard to enjoy watching the ship go down. I really want him to succeed and appreciate the last couple seasons, but this one is looking like a nightmare.

 

6 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I don’t understand being a Terry apologist. He’s Peter Principled as a big time program head coach. He’s just fine as a #1 assistant, recruiting, relate to the players type. 

Generally speaking, never fucking root for a coach. Are you related to the person? No? Then get a fucking grip. 

Texas provides every resource imaginable for coaches to be successful on campus. Win or get the fuck out, you fucking loser. Maybe don’t get into a slapfight with your psycho fiancée or avoid just being generally mediocre at everything you do while embarrassing the entire program and fanbase by bawling about “horns down” on national tv. It’s infuriating. 

Losing to ATM by 20 in basketball should be considered an instant firing offense. Find your own way back to clean out your fucking office, as the bus is full, dummy. 

I’ll be cheering for the team the rest of the way, but if this dipshit wins something like 4 games in conference, I will accept the cold comfort that his performance will stick out like a sore thumb among the coaches on campus. They can then fire him without the media calling Texas a big bad meanie. 

I see this season as a win/win no matter what happens.  If we win, awesome. I will always be excited to watch UT hoops make it to the big dance.  If we lose, it could help usher in a new staff who will probably (but not certainly) be better.

The aggy game was pretty much a perfect storm worst case opponent for us.  They are #1 in the country in offensive rebounding and we are a bad rebounding team. They were getting 2nd chance garbage points all night long.  They are also very good defensively, both on the perimeter and down low. I don't think we are as bad as we looked in that game. 

I liked that we saw some lineups with Pope/Larry + Johnson + Mark + Kent + Kaluma.  We need that more going forward.

7 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I expected nothing good to come from hiring him full time. I had zero problem with giving him 2 years to see if he could make do and was better than I thought- because of what you said. It’s time. That doesn’t get to consign us to mediocrity because he held together a talented and experienced team. That’s what the paycheck is for, right?  But, perfectly reasonable take.  
 

Still bummed that we had our guy for a generation and it turned out the way it did. 

 

There are quite a few UT basketball fans who genuinely believe Texas has everything we need to be a major power in college basketball. We could be an extended version of the Barnes years up until 2009. We could be what Oats is building now at Alabama (which is one of the reasons he’s not leaving).

The day I woke up and saw the ESPN notification about Beard, I was fucking crushed because I knew he was the one to turn this thing into a monster for a long time. That’s not to say there aren’t others who could, but Beard got it and got UT. 

I felt the way I felt when Colt went down. People at work legitimately asked if someone died I was so bummed. 

27 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

There are quite a few UT basketball fans who genuinely believe Texas has everything we need to be a major power in college basketball. We could be an extended version of the Barnes years up until 2009. We could be what Oats is building now at Alabama (which is one of the reasons he’s not leaving).

The day I woke up and saw the ESPN notification about Beard, I was fucking crushed because I knew he was the one to turn this thing into a monster for a long time. That’s not to say there aren’t others who could, but Beard got it and got UT. 

I felt the way I felt when Colt went down. People at work legitimately asked if someone died I was so bummed. 

I’m in that group man. I love UT hoops. I think we should view the first decade of the Barnes era as our birthright and act accordingly. Anyone who can’t do that should be short timing it here. 

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