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San Antonio Spurs 2024 Offseason Thread - Edging and Unleashing Wemby's Jumbo Package

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  • Mitch Cumsteen
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    No that’s the best part. We still get to keep Chris Paul from getting a ring. 

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  • Mitch Cumsteen
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    I think they got the best player in this cruddy draft in Castle.  I actually like the Dillingham trade. He’s an exciting player but he’s going to get targeted endlessly in a playoff series. There

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#302
55 minutes ago, Hate said:

Someone please post all of Chris Paul’s “winning” that he can use to transfer knowledge to the young players on this team? Do you want them taught how to make it to the Conference Finals once in your career over the course of almost 20 years? 

Plus, his best skill--suffering a nagging soft tissue injury when your team needs you the most--can't be taught anyway. That's god given.

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#303
55 minutes ago, Hate said:

Someone please post all of Chris Paul’s “winning” that he can use to transfer knowledge to the young players on this team? Do you want them taught how to make it to the Conference Finals once in your career over the course of almost 20 years? 

What a stupid fucking take. We have a first ballot HOF head coach that has won five titles, so we're sure as fuck not bringing in Chris Paul because we lack someone capable of teaching teams how to win.

At this point I'm just happy at the thought of having someone that can model how to throw lob passes and run the god damn pick and roll at a reasonably high level. 

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#304
43 minutes ago, Hate said:

Someone please post all of Chris Paul’s “winning” that he can use to transfer knowledge to the young players on this team? Do you want them taught how to make it to the Conference Finals once in your career over the course of almost 20 years? 

First off, fuck you for making me defend Chris Paul.

Second off, here's what the records were of every team Chris Paul joined the year before and after he got there.

2011 Clippers: 32-50
2012 Clippers: 40-26

2017 Rockets: 55-27
2018 Rockets: 65-17

2019 Thunder: 49-33 (They traded PG13 during this offseason)
2020 Thunder: 44-28

2020 Suns: 37-36
2021 Suns: 51-21

2023 Warriors: 44-38
2024 Warriors: 46-36

I think the Warriors stat is useless given context to everything else going on there, but the only time he didn't improve the team was when the Thunder decided to gut their entire roster, and they still were only 4 games worse. People were expecting them to completely bottom out, and they made the playoffs.  I hate that sumbitch, but he plays winning basketball.

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Plus, his best skill--suffering a soft tissue injury when your team needs you the most--can't be taught anyway. That's god given.

And third off, well, duh. You already know this, but signing Chris Paul to a one year deal isn't about this team making a run this year. It's about instilling a winning culture and mentoring young players. His being healthy for a playoff run isn't going to be the difference in playing for a championship. Even if he plays 82 games and never gets hurt, this team's ceiling is probably the play-in. The west is still brutally deep. The only outright tanker is going to be Portland, potentially Utah, and maybe any other team that still owns its own FRP and gets its star injured and decides to throw in the towel on the season.

#305
8 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

First off, fuck you for making me defend Chris Paul.

Second off, here's what the records were of every team Chris Paul joined the year before and after he got there.

2011 Clippers: 32-50
2012 Clippers: 40-26

2017 Rockets: 55-27
2018 Rockets: 65-17

2019 Thunder: 49-33 (They traded PG13 during this offseason)
2020 Thunder: 44-28

2020 Suns: 37-36
2021 Suns: 51-21

2023 Warriors: 44-38
2024 Warriors: 46-36

I think the Warriors stat is useless given context to everything else going on there, but the only time he didn't improve the team was when the Thunder decided to gut their entire roster, and they still were only 4 games worse. People were expecting them to completely bottom out, and they made the playoffs.  I hate that sumbitch, but he plays winning basketball.

And third off, well, duh. You already know this, but signing Chris Paul to a one year deal isn't about this team making a run this year. It's about instilling a winning culture and mentoring young players. His being healthy for a playoff run isn't going to be the difference in playing for a championship. Even if he plays 82 games and never gets hurt, this team's ceiling is probably the play-in. The west is still brutally deep. The only outright tanker is going to be Portland, potentially Utah, and maybe any other team that still owns its own FRP and gets its star injured and decides to throw in the towel on the season.

That all felt gross, didn't it? Don't worry, I can relate.

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#306
8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

That all felt gross, didn't it? Don't worry, I can relate.

Yes. Awful. Disgusting. I'm now going to go take a 45 minute long shower in the fetal position.

#308

Conventional wisdom is that PGs (like RBs) hit the cliff pretty abruptly. He's obviously not starting material anymore, but this is the right move for him to make if he wants to transition to coaching and it's the right move for PAFTO to make if they want veteran leadership on the team. I am not sure if I buy the idea that he would be a good mentor to Castle and the other young guards, because he is kind of a bitchass. Hopefully he has changed, but for the price paid I don't hate the move and I definitely prefer it over Trae Young.

#312
13 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

This thread is hilarious with the cope and self reflection after 2 decades of hating this shithead.

Super hopeful that he doesn't kick any Minnesota players in the nuts this year.

#313
50 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Super hopeful that he doesn't kick any Minnesota players in the nuts this year.

He’s totally going to do something that infuriates me. The only saving grace I have is that he will undoubtedly make the team better and elevate Wemby. I can swallow my loathing, but this fucking sucks. Dude might be the only player in the league who can hit a game winner in San Antonio and hear complete silence.

#315

Lavine and a top 3 protected first in 2027 for Keldon. Would the spurs say no?’

Lavine is technically the better player. The spurs would think they have a couple of chances to flip him for even more assets. If they could rehab his image they should be able to get 1 or 2 more firsts for him. Worst case in 2 years they drop him to someone as an expiring before paying Wemby the super fun max.

#316
The San Antonio Spurs tendered qualifying offers to Sandro Mamukelashvili and David Duke Jr., a league source told @spotrac.Both players are now restricted free agents.

Didn't see this mentioned along with Barlow not getting an offer. I don't really see these getting matched but who knows

#320
6 hours ago, Kermit said:

He’s totally going to do something that infuriates me. The only saving grace I have is that he will undoubtedly make the team better and elevate Wemby. I can swallow my loathing, but this fucking sucks. Dude might be the only player in the league who can hit a game winner in San Antonio and hear complete silence.

He can also buy a six pack for the guys. Wemby won't need his "McLovin" fake ID anymore.

McAmour?

#322
9 hours ago, RichUT said:

What a stupid fucking take. We have a first ballot HOF head coach that has won five titles, so we're sure as fuck not bringing in Chris Paul because we lack someone capable of teaching teams how to win.

At this point I'm just happy at the thought of having someone that can model how to throw lob passes and run the god damn pick and roll at a reasonably high level. 

You mean like a HOF coach with 5 rings and his assistants?

#323

Lauri rumors. Would be an awesome addition although I wouldn’t want to lose Sochan or the Atlanta picks. 
 

Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaybes says the “Warriors are the aggressors” but Spurs are in the mix as they the Lauri Markkanen sweepstakes heats up. He just posted this video report on Bleacher Report @BR_NBA.

 

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#325

Let the warriors overpay for him. I like LM but it’s not worth what they have to give up. And the timing isn’t right. 

PSA if you need a wemby fix you can catch him live tomorrow:

The NBA App, NBA.com and @NBA YouTube will stream France’s five exhibition games ahead of the Olympics (local blackouts may apply). Game schedule and NBA players competing are below.
Schedule

DateOpponent

July 3vs. Turkey

July 8vs. Germany

July 12vs. Serbia

July 19vs. Canada

July 21vs. Australia


*All games will tip off at 3 p.m. ET

 

 

#326

Chris Paul can actually throw the ball to Wemby so that’s an upgrade

#330

Uhm...... lol.  They do have Gobert too, but still.  This is silly.

Turkey's stats in 20 mins with Wemby on the floor:10 pts9 tov1/24 fg (4.2%)1/10 2p (10%)0/14 3p (0%)28.6 ORTG https://t.co/AbvMjsigCZ

 

#332
Kings have talked to Bulls about DeRozan sign and trade, per source. Spurs also now another possibility. Despite DeRozan interest in Miami, Heat not in position to give him what he's seeking at this time... Heat will hope opportunity on some player it wants arises this summer.

No thank you. Also…

 

nooo GIF

#334
1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

Why the fuck would we want Derozan? That's a hard pass.

He's past his prime, I'd rather develop someone else.

#335
4 hours ago, Kermit said:
Kings have talked to Bulls about DeRozan sign and trade, per source. Spurs also now another possibility. Despite DeRozan interest in Miami, Heat not in position to give him what he's seeking at this time... Heat will hope opportunity on some player it wants arises this summer.

No thank you. Also…

 

nooo GIF

It’s as random as Chris Paul.  DD has generally been a good soldier and decent mentor, Pop likes him, he may only want a 1 year deal and probably would move on.  With this front office, I could see it.  Ultimately he probably gets more money elsewhere but I can see this.  

#336
54 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

It’s as random as Chris Paul.  DD has generally been a good soldier and decent mentor, Pop likes him, he may only want a 1 year deal and probably would move on.  With this front office, I could see it.  Ultimately he probably gets more money elsewhere but I can see this.  

How would he fit into the offense, and whose minutes/spot would go away?

#337
3 hours ago, chainsaw said:

How would he fit into the offense, and whose minutes/spot would go away?

Branham and Champagnie.  Maybe Keldon if he's moved.  Are you under the impression we're an ultra-talented team who need a season to gel?

#338
On 7/3/2024 at 2:36 PM, Mitch Cumsteen said:

 

Wemby's 1st half highlights:

 

If Dogus hadn't retired, Turkey wins that by triple digits, MINIMUM.

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#339

Pretty incredible how far this guy has come since this time last year when he was playing in the French league playoffs looking lost half the time. 

#341
59 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Pretty incredible how far this guy has come since this time last year when he was playing in the French league playoffs looking lost half the time. 

Jesus Christ. 

#343
The San Antonio Spurs are trading guard Devonte Graham and a second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets, sources tell ESPN. The Hornets will waive Graham, allowing him to become a free agent.

 

#344

Clearing salary for something. Rumors are Spurs will be involved in the Derozan to Sacramento trade in a 3 team trade. If we can get a role player like Huerter or Barnes it would be a nice addition.

The San Antonio Spurs are getting off Devonte Graham's $2.85 million partial guarantee by trading him.They now can reach $19.1 million in cap space, enough to absorb a player like Kevin Huerter or Harrison Barnes to facilitate a DeMar DeRozan to Sacramento sign and trade. https://t.co/Bh4lJ6vUR4

 

#346
7 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Huerter can ball. He'd be a great add.

That means we’re probably getting Barnes. 

#348
5 hours ago, thepop said:

Clearing salary for something. Rumors are Spurs will be involved in the Derozan to Sacramento trade in a 3 team trade. If we can get a role player like Huerter or Barnes it would be a nice addition.

The San Antonio Spurs are getting off Devonte Graham's $2.85 million partial guarantee by trading him.They now can reach $19.1 million in cap space, enough to absorb a player like Kevin Huerter or Harrison Barnes to facilitate a DeMar DeRozan to Sacramento sign and trade. https://t.co/Bh4lJ6vUR4

 

IF they can complete this and get an unprotected 1st or a couple of 1's, then that's some real GM'ing..... Cap space is an asset, use it to weaponize yourself.  They've already shown their hand in they want in on the 2025 FA class, so this could be very good.

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