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9 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

nevertheless, it's my opinion that the statement was unnecessary and I'm not particularly happy about it. in fact, a statement like this, the votes of confidence from old guard types, rarely ends well for the person in question. 

hartzell needs to go. throw eltife out with him. the call is coming from inside the house

I don't pay much attention to LinkedIn, but one of my connections re-posted Hartzell's page & letter.  The number of people who lined up to fellate him was disgusting.  I think exactly two were critical.

I guess I shouldn't expect a much different demographic on that site, but still . . .

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1 minute ago, BeardIP said:

Yea.....on a site of adults with real jobs versus idealistic students and weirdo faculty. What exactly did you expect originally?

I didn't expect anything, dumbass.  I was surprised to see it when I saw it.  And fuck "weirdo faculty", have some respect for your (alleged) alma mater.

12 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Yea.....on a site of adults with real jobs versus idealistic students and weirdo faculty. What exactly did you expect originally?

Did you go to college? If so, who taught your classes or did you attend Liberty?

On 5/4/2024 at 3:09 PM, Rex Kramer said:

 I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

Ahh yes, you're constant war to expose all the BS fox puts out on a daily basis has been admirable 

For a guy who gives out so much guff about people who post about their relationship with UT higher-ups, you sure seem unable to shut the fuck about knowledge of what's going on inside UT/BOR/System.  Which is it smart guy?  

19 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

 

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You'll have to tell us what it says. ISRAEL ____?____

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You'll have to tell us what it says. ISRAEL ____?____

Think it says "Isreal Isn't SEC"

Seriously though, blurry, backward and turned upside down that second word is hard to make out. 

1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

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Is that a banner for ants?

On 5/10/2024 at 9:00 AM, jimmyjazz said:

I don't pay much attention to LinkedIn, but one of my connections re-posted Hartzell's page & letter.  The number of people who lined up to fellate him was disgusting.  I think exactly two were critical

Maybe he actually handled it well, in hindsight.

I hope the athletic department can survive all the Surly CR withdrawing financial support for the University as long as Hartzell is in charge. 

40 minutes ago, lucious leftfoot said:

Maybe he actually handled it well, in hindsight.

He absolutely did not.

 

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I hope the athletic department can survive all the Surly CR withdrawing financial support for the University as long as Hartzell is in charge. 

I don't give a flying fuck whether any support I withhold causes financial grief, it obviously won't.  It doesn't mean I should just cut the check anyway, does it?

Any idea that either Hartzell or Eltife will suffer even the slightest hint of losing their respective positions is laughable. Each is entrenched in their respective positions for as long as they choose to be (unless Eltife’s position has a specific term, that I don’t know).

15 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Any idea that either Hartzell or Eltife will suffer even the slightest hint of losing their respective positions is laughable. Each is entrenched in their respective positions for as long as they choose to be (unless Eltife’s position has a specific term, that I don’t know).

True, because UT has been weaponized.

Yeah it was Israel Strong. The lettering was also backwards from the Westside of the stadium.

  • 5 weeks later...

There's a hold on your transcript and diploma and we're too "incompetent" to tell you how to resolve it.

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The letter doesn't say how long UT's conduct proceedings could take or what the resolution would be, despite the Travis County Attorney's Office dropping charges against her and all the other protest-related cases from that day.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/student-investigated-over-palestinian-protests-ut-austin/269-bb36ab84-2a32-4df8-b113-abafa1ce6385

Of course, this has now become a university that hires internet trolls to teaching positions, so maybe it is genuine incompetence. 

Thats some bush league bullshit. Give the lady her fucking degree. Jay hartzell is a boot licking pussy. 

Figured this was the best place.  They are going to lose a lot of people.


Dear UT community,
 
Beginning this fall semester, the University will require almost all staff members to work on site full time. This will be a significant change for some members of our community, so it is important to take a step back and explain why requiring in-person work best supports our culture and reinforces the teaching and research mission of our University.

Staff members can most effectively serve our students, faculty, fellow staff members, and other stakeholders when working together in an environment that fosters collaboration, innovation, availability, and reliability. Our vibrant campus community helps distinguish our great University, and as members of our staff, you contribute to that vibrancy each day. We are here because of our students, and your consistent presence will help provide a more complete and engaging learning experience for students throughout campus.

Leaders of colleges, schools, and units will work through the logistics of these changes and, by early July, will finalize their plans to bring most staff members back to on-site work full time. All plans will be fully implemented by Aug. 19, which is one week before the start of fall classes. Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform. 

For all staff members, some occasions may call for irregular schedules or intermittent remote work that does not require formal arrangements. Managers will continue to make those decisions on an as-needed basis.

Thank you for your work and your profound dedication to our Longhorn community. I look forward to having students, faculty, and staff together on the Forty Acres as we continue to make this the world’s highest-impact public research university. 
Sincerely yours,
 
 
Jay Hartzell
President

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

Staff, not faculty

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

Oh yeah and with people who live in other states.

CIO immediately did damage control through internal Teams channel, stating ITS policies will not change as of now. His message was sent within minutes of the email hitting, so my guess is most CSU's leadership are in full damage control mode.

27 minutes ago, 1978horn said:
Figured this was the best place.  They are going to lose a lot of people.


Dear UT community,
 
Beginning this fall semester, the University will require almost all staff members to work on site full time. This will be a significant change for some members of our community, so it is important to take a step back and explain why requiring in-person work best supports our culture and reinforces the teaching and research mission of our University.

Staff members can most effectively serve our students, faculty, fellow staff members, and other stakeholders when working together in an environment that fosters collaboration, innovation, availability, and reliability. Our vibrant campus community helps distinguish our great University, and as members of our staff, you contribute to that vibrancy each day. We are here because of our students, and your consistent presence will help provide a more complete and engaging learning experience for students throughout campus.

Leaders of colleges, schools, and units will work through the logistics of these changes and, by early July, will finalize their plans to bring most staff members back to on-site work full time. All plans will be fully implemented by Aug. 19, which is one week before the start of fall classes. Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform. 

For all staff members, some occasions may call for irregular schedules or intermittent remote work that does not require formal arrangements. Managers will continue to make those decisions on an as-needed basis.

Thank you for your work and your profound dedication to our Longhorn community. I look forward to having students, faculty, and staff together on the Forty Acres as we continue to make this the world’s highest-impact public research university. 
Sincerely yours,
 
 
Jay Hartzell
President

Why is this a big deal?

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Why is this a big deal?

I'm staff. I work with people daily that are not even in the state, and never have been. During COVID, lots of remote workers were hired to fill staff vacancies, most from out of state. And lots of folks have gotten used to only 2-3 days on campus, with zero productivity drop. University staff don't exactly make the big bucks, so we are expecting a not-insignificant number of departures from staff. Especially in IT roles, that can go make much more elsewhere.

4 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

I'm staff. I work with people daily that are not even in the state, and never have been. During COVID, lots of remote workers were hired to fill staff vacancies, most from out of state. And lots of folks have gotten used to only 2-3 days on campus, with zero productivity drop. University staff don't exactly make the big bucks, so we are expecting a not-insignificant number of departures from staff. Especially in IT roles, that can go make much more elsewhere.

I mean the IT facet I get. Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere. I'd assume that's all down to managers. I guess my thought is...what other vast amounts of staff (not IT) are working 2-3 days off campus a week? Certanily not janitors, or librarians, etc. I guess my real question, is how many "staff" positions don't bascially have to be in person already? I guess I'm completely ignorant. 

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere.

Except Colorado.

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean the IT facet I get. Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere. I'd assume that's all down to managers. I guess my thought is...what other vast amounts of staff (not IT) are working 2-3 days off campus a week? Certanily not janitors, or librarians, etc. I guess my real question, is how many "staff" positions don't bascially have to be in person already? I guess I'm completely ignorant. 

The amount of staff has ballooned on college campuses in the last 3 decades to mind blowing amounts. It's one of the biggest reason that the cost of higher education is out pacing inflation at such a rate. 

Purchasing folks are another like IT that do not need to be butts in seats to do their jobs, and lots of the folks I have worked with that are in different states are project managers.

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean the IT facet I get. Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere. I'd assume that's all down to managers. I guess my thought is...what other vast amounts of staff (not IT) are working 2-3 days off campus a week? Certanily not janitors, or librarians, etc. I guess my real question, is how many "staff" positions don't bascially have to be in person already? I guess I'm completely ignorant. 

Sure, I can get student facing and facilities personnel.  All positions is a big deal, especially when the university has reclaimed physical space and offices had moved to co-working areas.  

46 minutes ago, 1978horn said:
Figured this was the best place.  They are going to lose a lot of people.


Dear UT community,
 
Beginning this fall semester, the University will require almost all staff members to work on site full time. This will be a significant change for some members of our community, so it is important to take a step back and explain why requiring in-person work best supports our culture and reinforces the teaching and research mission of our University.

Staff members can most effectively serve our students, faculty, fellow staff members, and other stakeholders when working together in an environment that fosters collaboration, innovation, availability, and reliability. Our vibrant campus community helps distinguish our great University, and as members of our staff, you contribute to that vibrancy each day. We are here because of our students, and your consistent presence will help provide a more complete and engaging learning experience for students throughout campus.

Leaders of colleges, schools, and units will work through the logistics of these changes and, by early July, will finalize their plans to bring most staff members back to on-site work full time. All plans will be fully implemented by Aug. 19, which is one week before the start of fall classes. Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform. 

For all staff members, some occasions may call for irregular schedules or intermittent remote work that does not require formal arrangements. Managers will continue to make those decisions on an as-needed basis.

Thank you for your work and your profound dedication to our Longhorn community. I look forward to having students, faculty, and staff together on the Forty Acres as we continue to make this the world’s highest-impact public research university. 
Sincerely yours,
 
 
Jay Hartzell
President

Yikes my mom runs one of the major call hubs for UT Austin and she's been able to do way more without driving in an hour from Pflugerville every day. This is a boneheaded business consultant brain move. 

10 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

The amount of staff has ballooned on college campuses in the last 3 decades to mind blowing amounts. It's one of the biggest reason that the cost of higher education is out pacing inflation at such a rate. 

 

No it’s not 

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

No it’s not 

Not the thread to get into it with you, but agree to disagree. 

3 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

It's an hour to get from P-ville to campus these days? Maybe my memory is faulty but I remember driving out to Yager in like 15 minutes.

I'm in South Austin, 11 miles from campus, and work 7-3 so I don't have an hour commute each way. It's still 30 minutes in the morning and 30-45 in the afternoon. All on Mopac. I-35 would be double that drive time.

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11 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

It's an hour to get from P-ville to campus these days? Maybe my memory is faulty but I remember driving out to Yager in like 15 minutes.

During rush hour?  I don't think so.

42 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

Not the thread to get into it with you, but agree to disagree. 

Okay, but I mean my PhD is in higher ed policy and I deal with higher ed budgets everyday. Unless you’re the VP of budget and finance for UT, I’m going to continue to tell you that staff salaries have little to nothing to do with tuition increases. 

59 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

It's one of the biggest reason that the cost of higher education is out pacing inflation at such a rate. 

The cost or the price?  If your concern is the latter, that’s market economics.

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31 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

It's an hour to get from P-ville to campus these days? Maybe my memory is faulty but I remember driving out to Yager in like 15 minutes.

P-ville is over 20 miles from campus. It'd be hard to do it in 15 minutes without any traffic or traffic lights, and going 75 mph from parking lot to parking lot. 

Why can’t they run all of the classes, lectures, and university services out of a Chinese call center? They’d save a lot of money that way. And it would make foreign espionage much more efficient. 

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Okay, but I mean my PhD is in higher ed and I deal with higher ed budgets everyday. Unless you’re the VP of budget and finance for UT, I’m going to continue to tell you that staff salaries have little to nothing to do with tuition increases. 

While I'm not the CFO, I do and have worked closely with their office for the last 18 years. And I didn't say staff salaries was the reason. But the total cost of supporting a staff force of 5000 vs 25000 is a major drag on a CSU's budget. 

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Why can’t they run all of the classes, lectures, and university services out of a Chinese call center? They’d save a lot of money that way. And it would make foreign espionage much more efficient. 

To be fair, their espionage is already prettay, prettaaaaaaaaaaay efficient. 

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean the IT facet I get. Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere. I'd assume that's all down to managers. I guess my thought is...what other vast amounts of staff (not IT) are working 2-3 days off campus a week? Certanily not janitors, or librarians, etc. I guess my real question, is how many "staff" positions don't bascially have to be in person already? I guess I'm completely ignorant. 

My wife (no pics) is on a team that that does accounting for the research arm and half of her team is not in Austin.  Let's say there was not good communication on this.  Her boss didn't know until the letter was sent out.

All I know is I'm really tired of communicating with WFH people with crappy phone connections.  Someone fix this and I'd be more on board with WFH crowd.

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform. 

There's a carve out here for certain roles, so my guess is this is aimed squarely at those whose jobs are outward facing but are digging in their heels about coming in more.

8 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

All I know is I'm really tired of communicating with WFH people with crappy phone connections.  Someone fix this and I'd be more on board with WFH crowd.

That’s a pretty simple fix. Require that any WFH employee maintains a minimum level of bandwidth for their home internet connection. My wife and I both work primarily from home. We have a gigabit connection and rarely have issues unless there’s something fucky going on with AT&T’s network, but that can happen anywhere. When I worked from an office we had more network issues there than we experience at home.

11 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

All I know is I'm really tired of communicating with WFH people with crappy phone connections.  Someone fix this and I'd be more on board with WFH crowd.

sounds like you work with some bad IT boomers, most VOIP solutions have decent to good echo cancellation and can make most microphones sound halfway decent

2 minutes ago, Cap33 said:

There's a carve out here for certain roles, so my guess is this is aimed squarely at those whose jobs are outward facing but are digging in their heels about coming in more.

I mean, I'm listed as quoted here but that is not a post I made. 

13 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

All I know is I'm really tired of communicating with WFH people with crappy phone connections.  Someone fix this and I'd be more on board with WFH crowd.

They need crystal clear ISDN lines installed 

2 minutes ago, royiv said:

That’s a pretty simple fix. Require that any WFH employee maintains a minimum level of bandwidth for their home internet connection. My wife and I both work primarily from home. We have a gigabit connection and rarely have issues unless there’s something fucky going on with AT&T’s network, but that can happen anywhere. When I worked from an office we had more network issues there than we experience at home.

LOL same.  I have fiber at home, rarely ever goes out during the day. 

At least 3-4 times a month, I get an email that our network at the office is out. 

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, I'm listed as quoted here but that is not a post I made. 

Sorry, I was quoting from Hartzell's email that was in your post. My bad.

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