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    Blue and Bond talking and then golden going out and quietly getting it done is not exactly surprising.   

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Man Gunnar is a fucking bad ass. Showing those scouts that toughness he brings to the field 

32 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

@Derka

 

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I feel like you have to actively try to miss that much capitalization consistently 

27 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Man Gunnar is a fucking bad ass. Showing those scouts that toughness he brings to the field 

I get that he's TE4 or TE5 on most draft boards, but I haven't seen anyone play consistently better than Gunnar this season other than Tyler Warren. Harold Fannin is smallish, and the guy from LSU is a stop/start kind of F who did okay running R routes in college but is too underdeveloped a blocker to be true R, and I don't think he even ran the 40 at the Combine. Hopefully Gunnar's ankle heals up in time for Pro Day and he can rerun and get somewhere closer to Fannin's time.

holy shit, i just now saw the will howard throwing session. i don’t think i’ve ever seen a worse performance from a qb at the combine.

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

4 minutes ago, Derka said:

holy shit, i just now saw the will howard throwing session. i don’t think i’ve ever seen a worse performance from a qb at the combine.

Saw that. Didn't help his draft stock any regardless of wherever it was before.

6 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

Wouldn't be surprised to see Ewers gone before Third after today. And that's way too low for Helm IMO.

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5 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

With this QB class Ewers is probably 2/3

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1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

With this QB class Ewers is probably 2/3

I’m not completely giving up hope for late first. If someone likes him enough to take him in the second they might rather have the extra year and trade up to 31 or 32 to get it. Depends on if he’s 3rd QB taken obviously. 

39 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I feel like you have to actively try to miss that much capitalization consistently 

Derka said one time that every single word he has ever typed on this site has been on his phone - no real keyboard ever…

11 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

Quinn's going late first, book it 

2 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Derka said one time that every single word he has ever typed on this site has been on his phone - no real keyboard ever…

Even argues with autocorrect smh

17 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

i could have sworn norton said he was returning to Texas.

6 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Derka said one time that every single word he has ever typed on this site has been on his phone - no real keyboard ever…

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13 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Derka said one time that every single word he has ever typed on this site has been on his phone - no real keyboard ever…

That’s a poor excuse. Almost all phones have an auto-capitalization feature. With it, it is more keystrokes to not capitalize after a period. 

13 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’m not completely giving up hope for late first. If someone likes him enough to take him in the second they might rather have the extra year and trade up to 31 or 32 to get it. Depends on if he’s 3rd QB taken obviously. 

10 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

Quinn's going late first, book it 

Unless the Steelers trade down from 21, there's no one behind them that needs to draft a QB or even an insurance policy. Maybe the Ravens? Sit him behind Lamar for a couple years. They need OL more than they need a future QB. They're losing 3/5 of their starters to FA, I think.

3 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

Unless the Steelers trade down from 21, there's no one behind them that needs to draft a QB or even an insurance policy. Maybe the Ravens? Sit him behind Lamar for a couple years. They need OL more than they need a future QB. They're losing 3/5 of their starters to FA, I think.

Teams can trade up from the 2nd round. It happens a lot to get the 5th year option. 

6 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

That’s a poor excuse. Almost all phones have an auto-capitalization feature. With it, it is more keystrokes to not capitalize after a period. 

go ahead and type as much as i do on your iphone for the next week and then come back here and tell me how important it is to you to capitalize everything, when ignoring that feature altogether makes no difference in the first place.

24 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Even argues with autocorrect smh

 

3 minutes ago, Derka said:

go ahead and type as much as i do on your iphone for the next week and then come back here and tell me how important it is to you to capitalize everything, when ignoring that feature altogether makes no difference in the first place.

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1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

@Derka

 

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"what the fuck are those"

-- e e cummings

51 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

I think Ewers sneaks into the 2nd.  From what I understand, scouts had Bond testing out better than Golden overall, despite Golden ripping off an insane 40.  So, he might sneak into the 1st?  No idea.

48 minutes ago, Derka said:

i could have sworn norton said he was returning to Texas.

 

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16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think Ewers sneaks into the 2nd.  From what I understand, scouts had Bond testing out better than Golden overall, despite Golden ripping off an insane 40.  So, he might sneak into the 1st?  No idea.

Didn’t Golden only run the 40?

4 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

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he fooled a bunch of us into thinking he was coming back.

43 minutes ago, Derka said:

go ahead and type as much as i do on your iphone for the next week and then come back here and tell me how important it is to you to capitalize everything, when ignoring that feature altogether makes no difference in the first place.

Poor, starving children in Africa  who read Surly are going to learn improper capitalization because of you. 

1 hour ago, Derka said:

holy shit, i just now saw the will howard throwing session. i don’t think i’ve ever seen a worse performance from a qb at the combine.

He was awful and I’m shocked it’s not getting more discussion. Any GM that drafts him should be fired immediately.

59 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’m not completely giving up hope for late first. If someone likes him enough to take him in the second they might rather have the extra year and trade up to 31 or 32 to get it. Depends on if he’s 3rd QB taken obviously. 

Biggest issue is his injury history. He has the best arm talent in the draft. Kurt Warner mentioned how he is able to put an arc on the ball to get it over defenders - and he has plenty of tape of him doing that in games. 

he then compared that to Dart who throws a relatively flat ball. Not that Dart wasn’t good (he was) but that’s the kind of thing scouts notice.

40 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

Unless the Steelers trade down from 21, there's no one behind them that needs to draft a QB or even an insurance policy. Maybe the Ravens? Sit him behind Lamar for a couple years. They need OL more than they need a future QB. They're losing 3/5 of their starters to FA, I think.

The Rams have other needs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Ewers if the guys they want for other positions are off the board. He’s perfect to sit behind Stafford for a couple of years then take over.

If Quinn drops to R2 there’s going to be a lot of teams who may trade up to get him.

5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Poor, starving children in Africa  who read Surly are going to learn improper capitalization because of you. 

Poor children reading Surly are gonna grow up completely fucked up regardless…

23 minutes ago, Derka said:

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he fooled a bunch of us into thinking he was coming back.

Nothing on that says I'm coming back and he mentioned 6 years.  Shouldn't be confusing 

17 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Nothing on that says I'm coming back and he mentioned 6 years.  Shouldn't be confusing 

it’s cute how mad you are at me. 

39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

He was awful and I’m shocked it’s not getting more discussion. Any GM that drafts him should be fired immediately.

Biggest issue is his injury history. He has the best arm talent in the draft. Kurt Warner mentioned how he is able to put an arc on the ball to get it over defenders - and he has plenty of tape of him doing that in games. 

he then compared that to Dart who throws a relatively flat ball. Not that Dart wasn’t good (he was) but that’s the kind of thing scouts notice.

The Rams have other needs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Ewers if the guys they want for other positions are off the board. He’s perfect to sit behind Stafford for a couple of years then take over.

If Quinn drops to R2 there’s going to be a lot of teams who may trade up to get him.

Seconded. He probably hasn’t been healthy since… the beginning of his junior high school season. He needs to not play football for a few years. 

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

He was awful and I’m shocked it’s not getting more discussion. Any GM that drafts him should be fired immediately.

Biggest issue is his injury history. He has the best arm talent in the draft. Kurt Warner mentioned how he is able to put an arc on the ball to get it over defenders - and he has plenty of tape of him doing that in games. 

he then compared that to Dart who throws a relatively flat ball. Not that Dart wasn’t good (he was) but that’s the kind of thing scouts notice.

The Rams have other needs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Ewers if the guys they want for other positions are off the board. He’s perfect to sit behind Stafford for a couple of years then take over.

If Quinn drops to R2 there’s going to be a lot of teams who may trade up to get him.

3 years on the bench of a 4 year deal? (*theoretically) 

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

He was awful and I’m shocked it’s not getting more discussion. Any GM that drafts him should be fired immediately.

Biggest issue is his injury history. He has the best arm talent in the draft. Kurt Warner mentioned how he is able to put an arc on the ball to get it over defenders - and he has plenty of tape of him doing that in games. 

he then compared that to Dart who throws a relatively flat ball. Not that Dart wasn’t good (he was) but that’s the kind of thing scouts notice.

The Rams have other needs but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Ewers if the guys they want for other positions are off the board. He’s perfect to sit behind Stafford for a couple of years then take over.

If Quinn drops to R2 there’s going to be a lot of teams who may trade up to get him.

Surly told me all balls need to be on a frozen rope

4 hours ago, The Dog said:

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Looks like the QuinnAnon-ers are hard at work on Twitter. 

At his combine interview, Quinn said 1)the injury happened after the Michigan game and 2) the oblique injury was diagnosed as a strain, but felt worse than that in his mind. 

48 minutes ago, Derka said:

it’s cute how mad you are at me. 

I ain't mad at you, just don't understand how you think you're the smartest guy in the room on one thread and then openly admit to being a moron on another one. But whatever 

SIAP... been distracted by death in my family

Greg Cosell: Tier 2 Quarterback Prospect BREAKDOWN

 

Cosell does not see Quinn "as a true starting NFL QB"

17 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Looks like the QuinnAnon-ers are hard at work on Twitter. 

At his combine interview, Quinn said 1)the injury happened after the Michigan game and 2) the oblique injury was diagnosed as a strain, but felt worse than that in his mind. 

Sark also mentioned while being interviewed that a strained oblique is still teared. I think that is where the confusion comes from with reporters saying strained or torn. There’s degrees to the injury. I remember Amon-Ra St. Brown played with oblique injury that was described as “torn off the bone.” That happened early in the season and he only missed a game or two I think. 

3 minutes ago, Levi said:

Sark also mentioned while being interviewed that a strained oblique is still teared. I think that is where the confusion comes from with reporters saying strained or torn. There’s degrees to the injury. I remember Amon-Ra St. Brown played with oblique injury that was described as “torn off the bone.” That happened early in the season and he only missed a game or two I think. 

This. A strain is a form of a tear. But tear sounds more serious when included in 280 characters. 
 

Not sure what Quinn is trying to do here. He could just be giving an honest answer to question. He could blaming fuck ups on the injury. NFL teams don’t give a shit if he was hurt or not. They just want to see him throw. 

49 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Surly told me all balls need to be on a frozen rope

Sulryites also believe Quinn played with talent but as you can see by the combine, Quinn was a one man show and these guys held him back

2 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Sulryites also believe Quinn played with talent but as you can see by the combine, Quinn was a one man show and these guys held him back

Both statements can be incorrect!

1 hour ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I ain't mad at you, just don't understand how you think you're the smartest guy in the room on one thread and then openly admit to being a moron on another one. But whatever 

I don't understand why, in a year where we've had more Combine invites than ever, you would rather talk about Derka instead.

The fuck is wrong with you? Put him on ignore.

12 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Banks at 6’5”?   

He may have done the Kyler Murray / Dillon Gabriel / Albino in “The Pit of Despair” on The Man In Black (a.k.a. “Wesley”… a.k.a. “The Dread Pirate Roberts”) traction machine to make sure that there is no question that he’s a tackle.

 

5 hours ago, The Dog said:

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I’m not going to say that this tweet was made by a total fucking moron with shit 💩🧠  for brains, but even numbers idiots who love to post the Chevy Chase meme “I was told there would be no math.” know that you don’t award wins to a QB for games that they didn’t even participate in.

Social media provides a megaphone to too many idiots.

 

4 hours ago, trythisathome said:

Quinn's going late first, book it 

Then some GM whose team drafts late in the 1st round is going to be fired within 3 years.

Book it!

4 hours ago, AnotherLawyer said:

What's it look like so far post-Combine?

First: Banks, Barron, Golden

Second-Third: Bond, Sorrell

Third-Fourth: Ewers, Collins, Williams

Fourth-Fifth: Blue, Mukuba, Helm

Fifth-Sixth: Helm

Sixth-Seventh-UDFA: Majors, Broughton

UDFA: Connor, Norton

I think Helm will go way before that. 

6 hours ago, Post Oak said:

Nobody shits on Texas players like Texas fans

right, because being irked that he risked a needless injury = “shitting on him”. thank you for proving my “he could shoot himself in the head and you’d be upset if someone said it was a bad idea” point.

I have not researched, but maybe I will, what teams want to see in these QB combine throwing sessions.

You have QBs throwing to WRs they’ve never worked with previously and everything is working off timing.  On the deep ball, I’d probably prefer an overthrow to an underthrow even though the underthrow will be caught.

I would think they’d be interested in the QBs ability to move but also the feel on velocity.  The interviews are most important here.  There’s enough game tape on most of these QBs to evaluate their accuracy.

Also saw Bond had the 2nd fastest top end speed (not sure who was first).  That’s significant.  Just don’t ask him to lineup in a sprinters stance.

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10 minutes ago, Derka said:

right, because being irked that he risked a needless injury = “shitting on him”. thank you for proving my “he could shoot himself in the head and you’d be upset if someone said it was a bad idea” point.

Time to end the “Helm is an idiot for continuing the combine” crusade, man. You’ve never made a decision like he did in your life. I get that it goes against your grain.  I’ve made a few along his line and never expected the critics on the sideline to understand.

You stated your point, it’s noted, and time to course correct back to draft discussion in this thread. The rest of us are not interested in seeing the thread further derka’d or immamac’d or jimmyjazzed or ztejas’d. Fuck us all for wanting to talk draft here. Christ. 

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