June 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Rickylovesweed said: That's not how CDC operates. He isn't firing Pierce until he knows the replacement. Meh. He fired Herman when urban wasn’t in the bag. Unless urban hosed us
June 9, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, closetohumping said: Meh. He fired Herman when urban wasn’t in the bag. Unless urban hosed us Huh?
June 9, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, closetojumping said: Huh? So the original statement I responded to said cdc won’t pull the trigger until he knows the replacement. In Herman’s case was that urban? Or was it always sark?
June 9, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, closetohumping said: So the original statement I responded to said cdc won’t pull the trigger until he knows the replacement. In Herman’s case was that urban? Or was it always sark? CDC’s role gets really overstated regarding the football hire. Money and Eltife were running that one and CDC was in the side buggy. That considered, I don’t think there is an analog for the football hire and it’s to be ignored. What happened, however, is that talks started with Meyer and carried on for awhile. Herman viewed it all as bullshit until one of his assistants sat the guy down and told him it was real. He was stunned. He nevertheless wasn’t fired until the day they announced the Sarkisian hire, if memory serves. Meyer had nothing to do with it.
June 9, 20241 yr Wasn't Herman fired and hours later Sark hired? Seems like an odd example even if CDC wasn't involved. Either way, look at all the other hires. It's pretty obvious that CDC handles things behind the scenes before making a move.
June 9, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, closetojumping said: CDC’s role gets really overstated regarding the football hire. Money and Eltife were running that one and CDC was in the side buggy. That considered, I don’t think there is an analog for the football hire and it’s to be ignored. What happened, however, is that talks started with Meyer and carried on for awhile. Herman viewed it all as bullshit until one of his assistants sat the guy down and told him it was real. He was stunned. He nevertheless wasn’t fired until the day they announced the Sarkisian hire, if memory serves. Meyer had nothing to do with it. Correct. They did not formally fire Herman until Sark was clearly on the hook. However, it was known internally (except by Herman) that Herman was gone months before, regardless of Sark, Meyer, or anyone else ultimately selected. There was no process where they thought about keeping Herman if they didn’t get Sark or Urban. Herman was done.
June 9, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said: Wasn't Herman fired and hours later Sark hired? Seems like an odd example even if CDC wasn't involved. Either way, look at all the other hires. It's pretty obvious that CDC handles things behind the scenes before making a move. What about Beard, smart guy?
June 9, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said: Wasn't Herman fired and hours later Sark hired? Seems like an odd example even if CDC wasn't involved. Either way, look at all the other hires. It's pretty obvious that CDC handles things behind the scenes before making a move. You don’t remember that long ass urban courtship? McRibs, horseshoe bay, drapes etc. there seemed to be a moment were there was genuine interest but I tho k he wanted a shot in the nfl and wanted to avoid the nil stuff
June 10, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, Balcones said: bakich is trash. Some of yall are delusional. He's more successful of a coach than David Pierce.
June 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: He's more successful of a coach than David Pierce. Based on what?
June 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Based on what? Actually doing something once he gets to the CWS.
June 10, 20241 yr Just now, BurntOrange&White said: Actually doing something once he gets to the CWS. I mean, I guess.
June 10, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Based on what? #4 and #6 national seeds the last 2 years At Clemson Edited June 10, 20241 yr by WBT
June 10, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, WBT said: #4 and #6 national seeds the last 2 years At Clemson Finish that thought.
June 10, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: Actually doing something once he gets to the CWS. Doing something? Like what? Not winning a championship?
June 10, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Finish that thought. He'd have more advantages and thus perform better at Texas. And it would be nice to host regionals and supers again which should be our birth right. Edited June 10, 20241 yr by WBT
June 10, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, David Dennison said: Finish that thought. A lot of fans here just want to host regionals. They think getting to the CWS isn’t an accomplishment. And if you lose 2 games in Omaha? Forgot it.
June 10, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Balcones said: A lot of fans here just want to host regionals. should we not?
June 10, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Balcones said: Doing something? Like what? Not winning a championship? He has been closer to winning a championship than Pierce has ever been. 5 minutes ago, Balcones said: A lot of fans here just want to host regionals. They think getting to the CWS isn’t an accomplishment. And if you lose 2 games in Omaha? Forgot it. Sure, lose 2 games, but don't get outscored 34-11 in 2 of those years. That uncompetitive.
June 10, 20241 yr Just now, WBT said: should we not? That would great. Bakich was a 4 and 6 seed. no CWS. Pierce has gone to 3 CWS. You think being 4 and 6 seed hosting regionals makes Bakich more successful than Pierce. You thinking hosting regionals is better than making it to Omaha. 2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: He has been closer to winning a championship than Pierce has ever been. Sure, lose 2 games, but don't get outscored 34-11 in 2 of those years. That uncompetitive. Pierce has coaches a CWS championship team. bakich has not.
June 10, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Balcones said: That would great. Bakich was a 4 and 6 seed. no CWS. Pierce has gone to 3 CWS. You think being 4 and 6 seed hosting regionals makes Bakich more successful than Pierce. You thinking hosting regionals is better than making it to Omaha. Pierce has coaches a CWS championship team. bakich has not. Bakich was a national runner up at Michigan.
June 10, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Balcones said: That would great. Bakich was a 4 and 6 seed. no CWS. Pierce has gone to 3 CWS. You think being 4 and 6 seed hosting regionals makes Bakich more successful than Pierce. You thinking hosting regionals is better than making it to Omaha. Pierce has coaches a CWS championship team. bakich has not. Charlie Strong has coached a BCS national championship team. Your point?
June 10, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, David Dennison said: Bakich was a national runner up at Michigan. Pierce won a National Championship at Rice. Pretty sure they beat Augie twice in Omaha that year. Just now, BurntOrange&White said: Charlie Strong has coached a BCS national championship team. Your point? Has he ever won a CWS?
June 10, 20241 yr Just now, Balcones said: Pierce won a National Championship at Rice. Pretty sure they beat Augie twice in Omaha that year. Not as a head coach. Bakich is a national runner up head coach.
June 10, 20241 yr Just now, David Dennison said: Not as a head coach. Bakich is a national runner up head coach. Angie made the team get on the bus as runner up.
June 10, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said: Charlie Strong has coached a BCS national championship team. Your point? Sark won a National Championship at Bama. Then CDC hired him as our head coach.
June 10, 20241 yr Just now, Balcones said: Angie made the team get on the bus as runner up. What would Augie think about David Pierce's performances in the CWS?
June 10, 20241 yr The 2003 Rice Owls won on the strength of three great startng pitchers and a star closer. David Pierce was not the pitching coach. So yeah, make of that what you will.
June 10, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Balcones said: Bakich was a 4 and 6 seed. no CWS. Pierce has gone to 3 CWS. You think being 4 and 6 seed hosting regionals makes Bakich more successful than Pierce. You thinking hosting regionals is better than making it to Omaha. I think Bakich will do better at Texas than he did at other places. Just like Pierce has. Do you think Pierce was about to break through and make 3 CWS if he stayed at Sam or Tulane? Edited June 10, 20241 yr by WBT
June 10, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Balcones said: Sark won a National Championship at Bama. Then CDC hired him as our head coach. CDC didn’t hire Sark
June 10, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said: CDC didn’t hire Sark Sark was also hired before the national championship
June 10, 20241 yr I'm not sure if I want Bakich to replace David Pierce, but I'm sure I want someone to replace David Pierce. I've seen enough. It doesn't seem to be getting better. Edited June 10, 20241 yr by David Dennison
June 10, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, David Dennison said: I'm not sure if I want Bakich to replace David Pierce, but I'm sure I want someone to replace David Pierce. same
June 10, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, WBT said: I think Bakich will do better at Texas than he did at other places. Just like Pierce has. Do you think Pierce was about to break through and make 3 CWS if he stayed at Sam or Tulane? Are we saying Clemson is the same as Sam Houston?
June 10, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Balcones said: Are we saying Clemson is the same as Sam Houston? No. It's also not the same as Texas
June 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Balcones said: Pierce won a National Championship at Rice. Pretty sure they beat Augie twice in Omaha that year. Has he ever won a CWS? If we're counting assistants, there's about 40 other coaches who have won a national championship since David fucking pierce has. Let's hire one of those guys!11!!1!
June 10, 20241 yr Watching the Balcones guy, who is either David Pierce or a close relative, stan for him and grind out against Bakich is both predictable and humorous.
June 10, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, cochamps said: The 2003 Rice Owls won on the strength of three great startng pitchers and a star closer. David Pierce was not the pitching coach. So yeah, make of that what you will. I still own wade Townsend in my Dynasty league hoping one day he puts it together.
June 10, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Butch Had Not said: I still own wade Townsend in my Dynasty league hoping one day he puts it together. He seemed like the best of the 3 at the time. Humber had a better career, as did Aardsema.
June 10, 20241 yr Well, this next week is probably going to be pretty telling on where the coaching search has settled with Bakich now out. I know you can't always get what you want, prying Tony Vitello away from Tennessee is probably going to end up in disappointment, but if you have 6 minutes, this is the energy this program needs with where we are headed next year. I get he isn't everybody's cup of tea but it is impossible not to see why kids love playing for him. Edited June 10, 20241 yr by chase25
June 10, 20241 yr Like Vitello, a lot. If money and history, and a chance to put Texas back on track don't pull him to Austin, nothing else will. Bakich and Clemson got badly fucked by incompetent umpiring. I'm not sure I would have shown any more restraint than he did - if anything, I'da likely been tossed when that first gigantic pussy-rubbing took place.
June 10, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, cochamps said: The 2003 Rice Owls won on the strength of three great startng pitchers and a star closer. David Pierce was not the pitching coach. So yeah, make of that what you will. This. Pierce is not the answer. Whether it’s Bakich, Vitello, Johnson etc it’s abundantly clear the answer ain’t Pierce
June 10, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said: This. Pierce is not the answer. Whether it’s Bakich, Vitello, Johnson etc it’s abundantly clear the answer ain’t Pierce Yeah, can't enter next season with Pierce as Horns Head Coach
June 10, 20241 yr Using @Balcones methodolgy I went through and compiled a list of all potential candidates who won national titles as assistants since 2003 Rice. As you will notice we have a ton of candidates! Cal St Fullerton - Dave Serrano, Rick Vanderhook, Chad Baum Texas - Tommy Harmon, Tom Holliday Oregon St - Marty Lees, Dan Spencer, Nate Yeskie, Andy Jenkins Fresno St - Pat Waer, Matt Curtis, Mike Mayne LSU - Javi Sanchez, David Grewe, Wes Johnson, Josh Jordan, Marc Wanaka South Carolina - Chad Holbrook, Mark Calvi, Sammy Esposito, Jerry Meyers Arizona - Shaun Cole, Matt Siegel, Brett Scyphers UCLA - Jake Silverman, TJ Bruce, Rex Peters Vandy - Scott Brown, Travis Jewett, Drew Hedman, Mike Baxter Virginia - Kevin McMullan, Karl Kuhn, Matt Kirby Coastal Carolina - Kevin Schnall, Drew Thomas, Matt Schilling Florida - Craig Bell, Brad Weitzel Miss St - Scott Foxhall, Jake Gautreau Ole Miss - Mike Clement, Car Lafferty
June 10, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, LTtxfan said: Yeah, can't enter next season with Pierce as Horns Head Coach I think if we were staying in the Big Twelolve, Pierce could get by another year, but heading to the by gawd ole SEC is entering a whole other level of college baseball. I'll take my chances with a few of these guys. They don't need to have been perfect before coming here.
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