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Weird.  Never heard of that.  (Individual chats with jurors). 

 

Also, too much supposition that guilty consensus had been reached on the others. 

Edited by SuingToGetAMessageBoard?

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

At this point what to do the other 10 counts even matter, assuming he's guilty on 8 counts. If he gets 15 years on the 8 counts, that's akin to a life sentence for a 70 year old.  

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Mistrial on the 10 counts

Yeah, you hang onto that hope.

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Not my hope at all. Being read out now. 

Do you know what a mistrial is?

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, you hang onto that hope.

Not my hope at all. Being read out now. 

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

Just now, Captainant said:

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

basically in for life. why not just do a plea deal on the last 10 now?

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

Maybe Donald will loan him the money.

You have to wonder how many Paul Manaforts are out there that are performing some pretty questionable financial transactions but are smart enough to squirrel away enough money to not have to take on riskier behavior to earn more money.   

If he hadn't wasted all of his money, which led him to work with the Trump campaign, he would be living the good life.

Just now, Bevo VIII said:

Doesn’t he still have other outstanding charges that he has to go to trial for?

Yes

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Maybe Donald will loan him the money.

He'll loan him a pardon. 

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Do you know what a mistrial is?

ahem

Shooter McGavin's going to be eating pieces of shit for breakfast in prison. 

Guilty on 5 charges of tax fraud, 2 charges of bank fraud, and one charge hiding foreign bank accounts.

Edited by LongestHorn

2 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Doesn’t he still have other outstanding charges that he has to go to trial for?

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

5 x tax fraud charges

1 x charge of hiding foreign bank accounts

2 x counts of bank fraud

1 x super juicy nothingburger with a side of witch hunt 

 

Just now, Bevo VIII said:


Why wouldn’t they? Was this round the most severe charges?

Nope

Just now, Captainant said:

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

Well, and that whole other trial in a different district that is actually more about the collusion issue. 

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

Why wouldn’t they? Was this round the most severe charges?
1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

5 x tax fraud charges

1 x charge of hiding foreign bank accounts

2 x counts of bank fraud

1 x super juicy nothingburger with a side of witch hunt 

 

Switch over to the other channel where Cohen is admitting to a federal judge that Trump directed him to commit campaign finance violations if your hungry for more of a somthingburger. 

1 minute ago, Bevo VIII said:


Why wouldn’t they? 

Because he's already facing over a decade in prison based on this trial.  Why risk a not guilty verdict for something that probably wouldn't result in any additional sentence even if he is found guilty at a second trial.  And there's already another trial pending on the other indictments this fall.

Lots of swamp draining today!  What a corrupt piece of shut administration and there’s is lots more to come. Sad!

Here's a breakdown of all of the charges from Reuters:

 

8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Well, and that whole other trial in a different district that is actually more about the collusion issue. 

Yeah, Manafort trial #2 is where the real shit is.  

Conspiracy to defraud the United States

Failure to register as a foreign agent 

Obstruction of Justice 

Money Laundering

Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice

Making false statements

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz

Awesome sauce.  Merica.  If Mueller solely imprison Manafort and everyone else who has pled so far..... It's worth every penny. 

15 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

ahem

I thought you were saying the whole thing was a mistrial -- my bad.  

Fox News analyst right now on this verdict (paraphrased):

”no evidence of Russia collusion”

”strengthens president’s hand to not talk to Mueller.”

Then when the host (Cavuto) summarizes the news at the end of the hour:

”Once again, not about collusion, just about cash!”

Just so you guys know what your parents are hearing in case you chat about politics tonight.  

21 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

Just so you guys know what your parents are hearing in case you chat about politics tonight.  

Trump's campaign rally tonight is going to be bigly.

Hard to believe that Manafort's guilty verdict could be overshadowed by another news story (especially a courtroom news story), but it was.

27 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I thought you were saying the whole thing was a mistrial -- my bad.  

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

The rare quadruple post. nice.

Edited by Longhorn_Fan68

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

Yeah, I did, but that just let me jump to the easy conclusion that was wrong.  You're talking about Smokey1861#TrumpMAGA or something.

Who could have seen this coming? /s

Great job you mouth breathing meat heads, for electing this absolute piece of human garbage to our highest office. 

Bravo. Read a fucking book or two before 2020.

I like to listen to the right-leaning networks immediately when a news story breaks.  

Very clearly, they were ready to pronounce "NO COLLUSION!" the instant the verdicts were reached.  I mean, they just drove that home over and over again in a way that seemed very obvious that these were ready-to-go talking points.  

.... and as I was typing that last sentence, Trump gets off a plane in West Virginia, walks to a Fox microphone and repeats that talking point pretty much verbatim before ad libbing some "witch hunt!" 

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