December 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said: Man, these have been consistently terrible. Just like the experience of reading /r/cfb
December 11, 20241 yr On 12/10/2024 at 7:26 AM, satyanash said: Still complaining about Texas' resume 🙄 The "Texas hasn't beaten any top-25 teams" brigade is peddling bullshit. Texas has the second-strongest SOS of all teams in the CFP. Texas is #3 in the country in strength of record. Texas is #1 in the country in game control. Texas has 8 wins vs. bowl-eligible teams, most in the country. Texas has beaten two top-25 teams--Aggy (#14 in combined FPI/SP+, #19 in Sagarin) and Florida (#22 in combined FPI/SP+, #20 in Sagarin). Unranked teams that Texas defeated beat Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, and Missouri, among others. Michigan and Oklahoma are also fringe top-25 teams, depending which computer models are being used. If one is using stupid, arbitrary criteria, one will get stupid results.
December 11, 20241 yr And if we win out, in addition to that we will have beaten at least two of the P4 conference champions and possibly all 4.
December 11, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, bullet said: Having as many as they have and feeling like they need to defend prior ratings is a big mistake. They don't need 6. Things change too much. There shouldn't be any preseason rankings at all. No preconceived notions based on teams that no longer exist, especially with the portal causing so much turnover every year. I don't think there need to be any rankings at all released until the final one, but there should be detailed notes taken along the way of how the committee reached their final ranking. Then release the playoff field and those notes all at once for total transparency. They need to announce the AP and coaches poll are absolutely meaningless and have zero bearing on anything.
December 11, 20241 yr Bullet point thoughts: - My model ended up predicting South Carolina to be the last team in (over SMU). The teams everyone are talking about for the last spot were all really close. There was no right choice or wrong here. - Someone needs to decide whether we want a tournament of conferences and wildcards, a tournament of the best teams, or something in between. The current system is the former and made more sense before the last round of realignment. - Media and people keep double-speaking about teams ranked in the top 25 and the 25 best teams. They will present the former as if it is the latter. These are not the same thing and are not meant to be. Edited December 11, 20241 yr by JBJ
December 11, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, Voluminous Banality said: The "Texas hasn't beaten any top-25 teams" brigade is peddling bullshit. Texas has the second-strongest SOS of all teams in the CFP. Texas is #3 in the country in strength of record. Texas is #1 in the country in game control. Texas has 8 wins vs. bowl-eligible teams, most in the country. Texas has beaten two top-25 teams--Aggy (#14 in combined FPI/SP+, #19 in Sagarin) and Florida (#22 in combined FPI/SP+, #20 in Sagarin). Unranked teams that Texas defeated beat Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU, and Missouri, among others. Michigan and Oklahoma are also fringe top-25 teams, depending which computer models are being used. If one is using stupid, arbitrary criteria, one will get stupid results. Almost every pundit is essentially saying that Texas would have a "better" resume if they had beaten Georgia in the first matchup but lost to Arkansas, which is an absolutely insane conclusion.
December 11, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, JBJ said: Bullet point thoughts: - My model ended up predicting South Carolina to be the last team in (over SMU). The teams everyone are talking about for the last spot were all really close. There was no right choice or wrong here. - Someone needs to decide whether we want a tournament of conferences and wildcards, a tournament of the best teams, or something in between. The current system is the former and made more sense before the last round of realignment. - Media and people keep double-speaking about teams ranked in the top 25 and the 25 best teams. They will present the former as if it is the latter. These are not the same thing and are not meant to be. I heard some mouthbreather yapping at Pawl Finebaum the other day about "THESE AREN'T THE BEST 12 TEAMS!!!". No shit. Look at the way the playoff is constructed. There is absolutely no concern about getting the top 12 teams.
December 12, 20241 yr Here are the fields for each season if the CFP had started with the current format. Please note that as I've mentioned before, the problem isn't this setup, it's the stupid super conferences. Every playoff before this year would have been awesome with very few stupid byes, etc. 2014: 1. Alabama 9. Mississippi @ 8. Michigan St. 4. Ohio St. 12. Georgia Tech @ 5. Baylor 2. Oregon 10. Arizona @ 7. Mississippi St. 3. Florida St. 11. Kansas St. @ 6. TCU 2015: 1. Clemson 9. Florida St. @ 8. Notre Dame 4. Oklahoma 12. Mississippi @ 5. Iowa 2. Alabama 10. North Carolina @ 7. Ohio St. 3. Michigan St. 11. TCU @ 6. Stanford 2016: 1. Alabama 9. Southern Cal @ 8. Wisconsin 4. Penn St. 12. Oklahoma St. @ 5. Ohio St. 2. Clemson 10. Colorado @ 7. Oklahoma 3. Washington 11. Florida St. @ 6. Michigan 2017: 1. Clemson 9. Penn St. @ 8. Southern Cal 4. Ohio St. 12. UCF @ 5. Alabama 2. Oklahoma 10. Miami (FL) @ 7. Auburn 3. Georgia 11. Washington @ 6. Wisconsin 2018: 1. Alabama 9. Washington @ 8. UCF 4. Ohio St. 12. Penn St. @ 5. Notre Dame 2. Clemson 10. Florida @ 7. Michigan 3. Oklahoma 11. LSU @ 6. Georgia 2019: 1. LSU 9. Florida @ 8. Wisconsin 4. Oklahoma 12. Auburn @ 5. Georgia 2. Ohio St. 10. Penn St. @ 7. Baylor 3. Clemson 11. Utah @ 6. Oregon 2020: 1. Alabama 9. Georgia @ 8. Cincinnati 4. Oklahoma 12. Coastal Carolina @ 5. Notre Dame 2. Clemson 10. Iowa St. @ 7. Florida 3. Ohio St. 11. Indiana @ 6. Texas A&M 2021: 1. Alabama 9. Oklahoma St. @ 8. Mississippi 4. Baylor 12. Pittsburgh @ 5. Georgia 2. Michigan 10. Michigan St. @ 7. Ohio St. 3. Cincinnati 11. Utah @ 6. Notre Dame 2022: 1. Georgia 9. Kansas St. @ 8. Tennessee 4. Utah 12. Washington @ 5. TCU 2. Michigan St. 10. Southern Cal @ 7. Alabama 3. Clemson 11. Penn St. @ 6. Ohio St. 2023: 1. Michigan 9. Missouri @ 8. Oregon 4. Alabama 12. Oklahoma @ 5. Florida St. 2. Washington 10. Penn St. @ 7. Ohio St. 3. Texas 11. Mississippi @ 6. Georgia 2024: 1. Oregon 9. Tennessee @ 8. Ohio St. 4. Arizona St. 12. Clemson @ 5. Texas 2. Georgia 10. Indiana @ 7. Notre Dame 3. Boise St. 11. SMU @ 6. Penn St. Total hypothetical appearances 2014-2024 11 - Ohio St. 9- Alabama 8- Clemson, Georgia 7- Oklahoma, Penn St. 5- Notre Dame, Washington 4- Florida St., Michigan, Michigan St., Mississippi 3- Baylor, Florida, Southern Cal, , TCU, Utah, Wisconsin 2- Auburn, Cincinnati, Indiana, Kansas St., LSU, Oklahoma St., Tennessee, Texas, UCF 1- Arizona, Arizona St., Boise St., Coastal Carolina, Colorado, Georgia Tech ,Iowa ,Iowa St. ,Miami (FL) ,Mississippi St. ,Missouri ,North Carolina ,Pittsburgh ,SMU ,Stanford, Texas A&M Edited December 12, 20241 yr by Huckleberry
December 12, 20241 yr 22 hours ago, The Dog said: Kent St only lead for a grand total of like 8 or so minutes this entire season. Edited December 12, 20241 yr by BurntOrange&White
January 21Jan 21 8 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said: Texas was #4 in the preseason and postseason AP poll. aggy cannot comprehend this being a possibility
January 21Jan 21 4 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said: Amusing that we finished ahead of Georgia but lost to them twice. it appears they ranked the semifinalists 1-4 then the quarterfinal losers 5-8 with no regard for previous head to head results.
January 21Jan 21 #4 just feels very hollow, I guess when we suck again we will look back and say at least we were in the middle of it. Right now all this means very little knowing we had our chances after a turnover instead we go 4 and out and at the 1 yard line. Sark's play calling in those two situations was deserving of our loss.
January 21Jan 21 50 minutes ago, satyanash said: Oregon? The team that was down by 34-0 in the first half of its final game?
January 21Jan 21 11 minutes ago, The Dog said: it appears they ranked the semifinalists 1-4 then the quarterfinal losers 5-8 with no regard for previous head to head results. Penn State says what?
January 21Jan 21 Just now, David Dennison said: Penn State says what? I think its fair for a place that enabled child rape to be dropped a spot or two.
January 21Jan 21 1 minute ago, 'stache said: I think its fair for a place that enabled child rape to be dropped a spot or two. I should have gone with:
January 21Jan 21 Popular Post 30 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said: #4 just feels very hollow… I understand the sentiment, but I offer these counterpoints:
January 21Jan 21 I truly believe Texas was one play away from the national Championship. Any of those four downs at the goal line.
January 21Jan 21 Quote I understand the sentiment, but I offer these counterpoints: Edited January 21Jan 21 by markstanco
January 21Jan 21 Not to be a bucket of cold water here, but a 21-21 game with 2 minutes left is a recipe for losing 24-21.
January 21Jan 21 42 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said: #4 just feels very hollow For some, finishing #4 after being a non-participant in the playoffs in a truncated pandemic season is the absolute height of experienced success.
January 21Jan 21 33 minutes ago, Dahobbs said: Oregon? The team that was down by 34-0 in the first half of its final game? Also a team that lost 1 game was the B10 conference champion and beat the national champion earlier in the season. I can see it.
January 21Jan 21 47 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said: #4 just feels very hollow, I guess when we suck again we will look back and say at least we were in the middle of it. Right now all this means very little knowing we had our chances after a turnover instead we go 4 and out and at the 1 yard line. Sark's play calling in those two situations was deserving of our loss. Being a championship-or-despair cfb fan feels so weird. Especially when you cheer for a team that's won 4 championships in the modern era. You've gotta enjoy the ride.
January 21Jan 21 46 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said: #4 just feels very hollow, I guess when we suck again we will look back and say at least we were in the middle of it. Right now all this means very little knowing we had our chances after a turnover instead we go 4 and out and at the 1 yard line. Sark's play calling in those two situations was deserving of our loss. 1 - That was NOT a "4 and out". You are using that term completely wrong. 2 - If you can't take any enjoyment from a seaon with a Top 4 finish, you should probably invest your time and energy somewhere else other than being a college football fan.
January 21Jan 21 8 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said: For some, finishing #4 after being a non-participant in the playoffs in a truncated pandemic season is the absolute height of experienced success. This was my response to Kyle Umlang.
January 21Jan 21 45 minutes ago, Dahobbs said: Oregon? The team that was down by 34-0 in the first half of its final game? Idk how anyone could watch that playoffs unfold and not honestly have Texas at 2. I can see #3 at worst. Oregon got fucking annihilated.
January 21Jan 21 1 hour ago, SimkinsMan said: Amusing that we finished ahead of Georgia but lost to them twice. I'd call it fucking stupid but I guess amusing works
January 21Jan 21 19 minutes ago, chainsaw said: Not to be a bucket of cold water here, but a 21-21 game with 2 minutes left is a recipe for losing 24-21. After Howard turned it over? Yeah I agree. 15 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said: Also a team that lost 1 game was the B10 conference champion and beat the national champion earlier in the season. I can see it. I'd have them #2
January 21Jan 21 7 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said: 1 - That was NOT a "4 and out". You are using that term completely wrong. 2 - If you can't take any enjoyment from a seaon with a Top 4 finish, you should probably invest your time and energy somewhere else other than being a college football fan. Unless I remember it wrong since I have not watched the game after watching at the stadium we had a pass for a first down after the turn over than ran it on first and second down even though we had sucked at the running it on first down and then failed on third and punted it away. So yes without setting up context the term is completely wrong so am I right that we ran 4 plays before having to punt it away?
January 21Jan 21 5 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said: Idk how anyone could watch that playoffs unfold and not honestly have Texas at 2. I can see #3 at worst. Oregon got fucking annihilated. There's more than one game in a season no matter how important espn tells you that game is
January 21Jan 21 5 minutes ago, WBT said: There's more than one game in a season no matter how important espn tells you that game is This isn't the BCS, brother - it was played out on the field and Oregon was not one of the final 4 teams in the end. Ohio State, ND, Texas/PSU
January 21Jan 21 5 minutes ago, WBT said: There's more than one game in a season no matter how important espn tells you that game is Okay, then why is ND ahead of us? They lost to NIU and looked non competitive against OSU. Our losses were closer and to better teams. I know the answer already, but I am pointing out the hypocrisy.
January 21Jan 21 Ohio State won the national title. Notre Dame finished runner-up. Us and PSU finished T3rd or both made the "Final Four" College basketball hasn't cared about the AP-Poll in a long, long time. AP ranking doesn't get you into the playoff. Oregon can put their "Finished 3rd in the AP*" banner wherever they want. *may or may not have gotten bludgeoned in the CFP quarterfinal
January 21Jan 21 not to add fuel to the fire, but what about this dumb assed little bit....:Oregon Ducks 'Recognized' as National Champions Despite Ohio State’s Victory Over Notre Dame
January 21Jan 21 Here’s the AP voter breakdown for Texas for anyone curious. https://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/texas-longhorns/2024 The lone #25 vote for Aggy came from Rece Davis, btw, who had us at #6.
January 21Jan 21 1 hour ago, WBT said: After Howard turned it over? Yeah I agree. that would have been great, but no way Bert Auburn hits a GW FG. Putting our hopes on Stone, his first ever FG attempt this season being in that situation? Also not a guaranteed win. I think there was a real chance the Buckeyes could move the ball enough to get a good look at a GW FG. I can't complain about the huge Helm and Golden receptions or the multiple DPIs that set us up at the 1 yard line, but we definitely left more time on the clock than I would have preferred.
January 21Jan 21 1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said: Okay, then why is ND ahead of us? They lost to NIU and looked non competitive against OSU. Our losses were closer and to better teams. I know the answer already, but I am pointing out the hypocrisy. ND had one fewer loss and also kept it closer against OSU than we did.
January 21Jan 21 43 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said: not to add fuel to the fire, but what about this dumb assed little bit....:Oregon Ducks 'Recognized' as National Champions Despite Ohio State’s Victory Over Notre Dame Terrific article. UO is ranked #1 in one of six rankings . . . so? The other five kinda matter, don't they? Quote In reality, everyone knows that Ohio State won the championship in 2025, and history will forever recognize the Buckeyes as the victors of the firs 12-team College Football Playoff. While the Ducks may technically go down in the record books as the "champion" according to one of six active "major selectors" in college football, nobody in Eugene will be celebrating this outcome as if the Ducks actually won the championship.
January 21Jan 21 1 minute ago, WBT said: ND had one fewer loss and also kept it closer against OSU than we did. This is one of those situations where the game was not as close as the score would indicate, while Texas's game against Ohio State was a situation where the game was closer than the score indicated. I'll give Freeman credit for not letting them fold when they were down by 24.
January 21Jan 21 1 hour ago, chainsaw said: Not to be a bucket of cold water here, but a 21-21 game with 2 minutes left is a recipe for losing 24-21. Especially against a white reasonably mobile qb.
January 21Jan 21 16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Terrific article. UO is ranked #1 in one of six rankings . . . so? The other five kinda matter, don't they? Is there a wall at Autzen to put this on?
January 21Jan 21 46 minutes ago, WBT said: ND had one fewer loss and also kept it closer against OSU than we did. What a retarded take. If you think that game was closer you are stupid as fuck.
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