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FINAL 2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#3 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

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25 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Maybe it shouldn’t matter, but Indiana has played only one team with a winning record.  They’ve played 7 teams with losing records.  Maybe folks are waiting to see how they do at Ohio State, before elevating them.  IU so far has played a Big XIIesque schedule.  If they should be ranked higher because they are undefeated, then by that logic bump up BYU too.

 In the AP, IU are essentially tied for 4th with Penn St.  Who should IU replace above that?  Texas, Ohio State, or Oregon?  They’re playing Ohio State and maybe get a shot at Oregon.  We can see then.

I could see them being 4th over Penn State. Not sure I could move them higher than that until they beat Ohio State or someone else loses.

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25 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Ohio St smokes Indiana by about 21 points

 

 

5 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Yep and yep.  Ohio State likely smokes IU and IU likely smokes Card and Purdue.  Irrespective of what I said above, 11-1 for Indiana is pretty amazing.

Certainly possible, but I don't know where you guys are getting your confidence in Ohio St. Nothing against Indiana, glass house and all, but I'm just not sold on Ohio St being "great".  Win by 7 sure.... 21... nada.

8 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Yep and yep.  Ohio State likely smokes IU and IU likely smokes Card and Purdue.  Irrespective of what I said above, 11-1 for Indiana is pretty amazing.

I think Indiana can name its score against Purdue.  I've watched almost all Purdue games this year (2 in person) and Purdue is horribad.  The game is at IU and I suspect they'll want to show something on 11/30 after tOSU crushes them the week before.  I'm guessing tOSU will be a 14 point favorite and will win by around 20.  IU will be a 27 point favorite over Purdue and will win by whatever score they want.

14 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

Certainly possible, but I don't know where you guys are getting your confidence in Ohio St. Nothing against Indiana, glass house and all, but I'm just not sold on Ohio St being "great".  Win by 7 sure.... 21... nada.

Not really about Ohio State being great but Indiana has literally played no one. 

FIU 3-6
Western Illinois 3-7
UCLA 4-5
Charlotte 3-6
Maryland 4-5
Northwestern 4-5
Nebraska 5-4
Washington 5-5
Michigan St 4-5 
Michigan 5-5

17 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

Certainly possible, but I don't know where you guys are getting your confidence in Ohio St. Nothing against Indiana, glass house and all, but I'm just not sold on Ohio St being "great".  Win by 7 sure.... 21... nada.

Good showing @oregon probably helps define them more than their wins. 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Not really about Ohio State being great but Indiana has literally played no one. 

FIU 3-6
Western Illinois 3-7
UCLA 4-5
Charlotte 3-6
Maryland 4-5
Northwestern 4-5
Nebraska 5-4
Washington 5-5
Michigan St 4-5 
Michigan 5-5

Both played Nebraska (back-2-back weeks) though with varied results:

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Mutual opponents is a failed comparison.

Especially this season.  Too much chaos. 

Yes, so instead we will just make up a bunch of horseshit about how they will get boat raced and then all of the sudden when Indiana is good and plays Ohio state close and maybe even wins everyone in here just says oh no maybe they are good? 

Watch some fucking football. Indiana is a good football team. They would fucking smoke Miami who is a bad football team with an insanely good QB. 

1 minute ago, immamac said:

Yes, so instead we will just make up a bunch of horseshit about how they will get boat raced and then all of the sudden when Indiana is good and plays Ohio state close and maybe even wins everyone in here just says oh no maybe they are good? 

Watch some fucking football. Indiana is a good football team. They would fucking smoke Miami who is a bad football team with an insanely good QB. 

You're not good until your good is what they always say lol

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

Yeah and Indiana has been not good and are now good. 

Against some pretty shitty teams, so far.  They’re IU.  They are not getting the benefit of the doubt until they beat someone for real.  Wait, fuck that, they are getting the benefit of the doubt.  They are essentially tied for 4th with Penn State in the AP.  Again, who do you want them to be above - Texas, Ohio State, Oregon?  Say it.  If they beat Ohio State, and then Oregon, te salut.
 

iu are full value for their ranking this year

dialiing up the parcells wayback machine

first night game at the shoe: 1985

indiana wins at the shoe since 1985:

1987 kickoff time 1:30

that's it

until they do it, they haven't

 

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Mutual opponents is a failed comparison.

Tell that to @BurntEyes

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Mutual opponents is a failed comparison.

Sure, but it's all we got at this point.  They've both played the same two teams - Nebraska and Michigan St and Indiana fared better against both teams.

I mean Indiana held Michigan St to -36 yards rushing... that's not some we got lucky we're not really good stat no matter who you are playing, especially in a blow out win.

Indiana will beat tOSU. Pollsters will then move tOSU one spot down and still remain above IU

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Yes, so instead we will just make up a bunch of horseshit about how they will get boat raced and then all of the sudden when Indiana is good and plays Ohio state close and maybe even wins everyone in here just says oh no maybe they are good? 

Watch some fucking football. Indiana is a good football team. They would fucking smoke Miami who is a bad football team with an insanely good QB. 

I have watched Indiana a bunch this year.  They are a very good football team: well coached, very disciplined, very experienced. They have 15 or so senior starters on offense and defense.  They have 20 transfer players in the 2-deep.  Last season is irrelevant to this IU team, fwiw (not that you are saying that).

I believe the spread will be tOSU -14.  I alluded to this earlier, but I have a gut feel that tOSU will beat the spread, because of difference in athleticism and home-field.  Perhaps I am giving too mich credit to that.

Now - after thinking about it more, I can see it being closer and/or seeing an IU win.  First, Cignetti is a very good coach; IMO better than Day.  Second, IU does not make a lot of mistakes - they have 7 turnovers all year.  3rd, the discipline and experience should pay off.  4th, you can always count on Will Howard to shoot himself in the foot against good competition.

I want an IU win, and big, btw.

14 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Indiana/UGA and Boise/Ohio St would be the worst games and go to TNT while ND/TN and Bama/Pedo would headline on ESPN.

This would be the worst playoff game in the history of the first year of the playoffs. The only light I see is Ashton Jeanty gashing that shitty fOSU defense for 220+ and 4 tuddy's 

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31 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Sure, but it's all we got at this point.  They've both played the same two teams - Nebraska and Michigan St and Indiana fared better against both teams.

I mean Indiana held Michigan St to -36 yards rushing... that's not some we got lucky we're not really good stat no matter who you are playing, especially in a blow out win.

Holy shit.  Oregon only beat Michigan State 31-10 at home and gave up 59 yards rushing while IU beat them worse and held them to negative yards rushing.  But, IU gave up more yards passing than Oregon did, so I don’t know.  But wait, IU also beat UCLA worse than Oregon beat UCLA with both games at the Rose Bowl.  So, by your logic doing head to head maybe IU should be ranked above both Oregon and Ohio State or at least be tied with Oregon at No. 1.  But taking the logic further, that also means IU is better than Texas since we’re ranked lower than Oregon and Ohio State.  But, if you think otherwise, then fuck yeah, Texas is No. 1 again and IU is No. 2 or potentially tied at No. 2 with Oregon.  

Stupid right?

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Not really about Ohio State being great but Indiana has literally played no one. 

FIU 3-6
Western Illinois 3-7
UCLA 4-5
Charlotte 3-6
Maryland 4-5
Northwestern 4-5
Nebraska 5-4
Washington 5-5
Michigan St 4-5 
Michigan 5-5

Now do what I did on another thread and compare the win/loss record of the teams Oregon has beaten. Add to it the scores of common opponents. 

A case can be made for IU being behind Oregon. 

I already pointed out that IU would, at worst, have the same record as Texas had they played the same schedule.

Yet, somehow, they suck cause they've never won shit before.

Too many people here haven't actually watched IU play. For the record, the defense they run is...wait for it... just like the one Ousux and Georgia ran against Texas. 

They're solid at every aspect of the game. They've been every opponent on their schedule. Oh wait.. average IU 43.9 opponents 13.80

So maybe they've played a lack luster schedule but they're OWNING every opponent. Now compare that margins of victory to BYU or Miami. Or Texas or OSU. Look at the win loss records of those schools opponents.

Then tell me again why IU is a shitty team aside from, They haven't been good in the past.

Breaking News, aside from last year, neither has Texas since 2009.

7 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Now do what I did on another thread and compare the win/loss record of the teams Oregon has beaten. Add to it the scores of common opponents. 

A case can be made for IU being behind Oregon. 

I already pointed out that IU would, at worst, have the same record as Texas had they played the same schedule.

Yet, somehow, they suck cause they've never won shit before.

Too many people here haven't actually watched IU play. For the record, the defense they run is...wait for it... just like the one Ousux and Georgia ran against Texas. 

They're solid at every aspect of the game. They've been every opponent on their schedule. Oh wait.. average IU 43.9 opponents 13.80

So maybe they've played a lack luster schedule but they're OWNING every opponent. Now compare that margins of victory to BYU or Miami. Or Texas or OSU. Look at the win loss records of those schools opponents.

Then tell me again why IU is a shitty team aside from, They haven't been good in the past.

Breaking News, aside from last year, neither has Texas since 2009.

I kinda did this is part above.  IU No. 1, right?  I’m waiting for someone to say it.

12 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Holy shit.  Oregon only beat Michigan State 31-10 at home and gave up 59 yards rushing while IU beat them worse and held them to negative yards rushing.  But, IU gave up more yards passing than Oregon did, so I don’t know.  But wait, IU also beat UCLA worse than Oregon beat UCLA with both games at the Rose Bowl.  So, by your logic doing head to head maybe IU should be ranked above both Oregon and Ohio State or at least be tied with Oregon at No. 1.  But taking the logic further, that also means IU is better than Texas since we’re ranked lower than Oregon and Ohio State.  But, if you think otherwise, then fuck yeah, Texas is No. 1 again and IU is No. 2 or potentially tied at No. 2 with Oregon.  

Stupid right?

No it's not stupid. It's stupid to think Ohio St is way better than IU and will beat them by 21+.  Might happen sure, but I've seen nothing that would tell me that.

All you other arguments lead me to the teams mentioned being more similar than different and not one being 3+ touchdowns better than the others.

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12 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Now do what I did on another thread and compare the win/loss record of the teams Oregon has beaten. Add to it the scores of common opponents. 

A case can be made for IU being behind Oregon. 

I already pointed out that IU would, at worst, have the same record as Texas had they played the same schedule.

Yet, somehow, they suck cause they've never won shit before.

Too many people here haven't actually watched IU play. For the record, the defense they run is...wait for it... just like the one Ousux and Georgia ran against Texas. 

They're solid at every aspect of the game. They've been every opponent on their schedule. Oh wait.. average IU 43.9 opponents 13.80

So maybe they've played a lack luster schedule but they're OWNING every opponent. Now compare that margins of victory to BYU or Miami. Or Texas or OSU. Look at the win loss records of those schools opponents.

Then tell me again why IU is a shitty team aside from, They haven't been good in the past.

Breaking News, aside from last year, neither has Texas since 2009.

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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No so fast my friend. 

IU has a larger average margin of victory in common opponents over Oregon.

So.. IU is better if that's the only data point you want to use.  

53 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

I have watched Indiana a bunch this year.  They are a very good football team: well coached, very disciplined, very experienced. They have 15 or so senior starters on offense and defense.  They have 20 transfer players in the 2-deep.  Last season is irrelevant to this IU team, fwiw (not that you are saying that).

I believe the spread will be tOSU -14.  I alluded to this earlier, but I have a gut feel that tOSU will beat the spread, because of difference in athleticism and home-field.  Perhaps I am giving too mich credit to that.

Now - after thinking about it more, I can see it being closer and/or seeing an IU win.  First, Cignetti is a very good coach; IMO better than Day.  Second, IU does not make a lot of mistakes - they have 7 turnovers all year.  3rd, the discipline and experience should pay off.  4th, you can always count on Will Howard to shoot himself in the foot against good competition.

I want an IU win, and big, btw.

you forgot - ryan day is a douche

iu would cover at -14

but they won't win

Oh and if anyone here wants to give me Indiana +21.5 v OSU... let's talk $ amounts in DM. 

6 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

No it's not stupid. It's stupid to think Ohio St is way better than IU and will beat them by 21+.  Might happen sure, but I've seen nothing that would tell me that.

All you other arguments lead me to the teams mentioned being more similar than different and not one being 3+ touchdowns better than the others.

So, you’re now discarding your head to head to argument?  Because you would have an argument with it that IU is also better than Oregon.  If you are now at a subjective argument of I just don’t think Ohio State is better, I’ll go with that Ohio State’s only loss is to the No. 1 team, on the road, by 1 point.  If you think that loss discounts Ohio State, see Texas v OU 2023.  And, they beat No.4 on the road.  Quality fucking opponents.  IU?  Nothing close.  And, I say all this with that I would love for IU to beat Ohio State in Columbus.  They just haven’t yet proven that they can do that with their current resume as opposed to what Ohio State has already done this year.

1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

So, you’re now discarding your head to head to argument?  Because you would have an argument with it that IU is also better than Oregon.  If you are now at a subjective argument of I just don’t think Ohio State is better, I’ll go with that Ohio State’s only loss is to the No. 1 team, on the road, by 1 point.  If you think that loss discounts Ohio State, see Texas v OU 2023.  And, they beat No.4 on the road.  Quality fucking opponents.  IU?  Nothing close.  And, I say all this with that I would love for IU to beat Ohio State in Columbus.  They just haven’t yet proven that they can do that with their current resume as opposed to what Ohio State has already done this year.

Calm down man.... I'm not that invested, all I said was I haven't seen anything that makes me thing Ohio St is 21 pts better than Indiana based on what I've watched. That's it, nothing more. Could they be? Sure, I just haven't seen it (apparently Vegas hasn't either).  Time will tell... they get to play and Indiana has two weeks to prepare for them.

7 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Calm down man.... I'm not that invested, all I said was I haven't seen anything that makes me thing Ohio St is 21 pts better than Indiana based on what I've watched. That's it, nothing more. Could they be? Sure, I just haven't seen it (apparently Vegas hasn't either).  Time will tell... they get to play and Indiana has two weeks to prepare for them.

Agree.  That’s what I said above.  Let the game be played so they can prove it.  Also, would apply to Oregon if they beat Ohio State.  By the way, I never said Ohio State is 21 points better than IU.  My argument is that IU hasn’t demonstrated they’re better based on their current resume.  Head to head is not an indicator.

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IU is beating fOSU. I can feel it in my veins. That may also be the drugs, but also the heart of college football. Go Hoosier! Fuck Ryan Day! 

Anyway, next year we need Cam Coleman and Zachariah Branch so they can experience winning again, as well as play with a generational QB prodigy. 

56 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

IU is beating fOSU. I can feel it in my veins. That may also be the drugs, but also the heart of college football. Go Hoosier! Fuck Ryan Day! 

Anyway, next year we need Cam Coleman and Zachariah Branch so they can experience winning again, as well as play with a generational QB prodigy. 

I hope so, but I don't see it.

2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

No so fast my friend.  IU has a larger average margin of victory in common opponents over Oregon.  So.. IU is better if that's the only data point you want to use.  

 

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1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

IU is beating fOSU. I can feel it in my veins. That may also be the drugs, but also the heart of college football. Go Hoosier! Fuck Ryan Day!

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2 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

Are we talking basketball in here 

Might as well, Indiana is better than Kentucky or Ohio State, and I think they would match up well against Bama. 

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2 hours ago, n64ra said:

I hope so, but I don't see it.

Have some hope, my friend. fOSU isn't a juggernaut. They can be beat. Even James Franklin made them look mortal, and Cagnetti is a far better coach. 

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5 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

The only light I see is Ashton Jeanty gashing that shitty fOSU defense for 220+ and 4 tuddy's 

First, it's "tuddies" not "tuddy's".

Second, don't say "tuddies".

 

1 minute ago, Horndog said:

First, it's "tuddies" not "tuddy's".

Second, don't say "tuddies".

 

OK. Whatever. I keep hearing them saying it on games, so...I'll stop. Regardless, I still want Jeanty to emasculate fOSU's defense. 

“Tuddies” and “nattys” - these are words used by the annoying gf your buddy insists on bringing to watch the game.

Ngl, this is the first time I’ve heard “tuddies” and I think it’s a pretty stupid term 

9 hours ago, wutang75 said:

“Tuddies” and “nattys” - these are words used by the annoying gf your buddy insists on bringing to watch the game.

They’re words used by pretty much everyone now days. Get with the times boomer 

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25 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

They’re words used by pretty much everyone now days. Get with the times boomer 

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